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08-12-2007, 09:00 AM
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Mario Kempe

how many of you guys know much about this guy? he is unbeleivible. i watched him play all last year and he is probally the most exciting player in junior hockey right now. he has gagne-like speed at 18 years of age. voted fastest player in the q by all coaches. he was a low pick and nobody seems to know much about him, but give him a few years and a kempe - richards - upshall line sounds pretty good for a flyers fan..

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how many of you guys know much about this guy? he is unbeleivible. i watched him play all last year and he is probally the most exciting player in junior hockey right now. he has gagne-like speed at 18 years of age. voted fastest player in the q by all coaches. he was a low pick and nobody seems to know much about him, but give him a few years and a kempe - richards - upshall line sounds pretty good for a flyers fan..
i'll give him this much... the kid can skate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Q9C...elated&search=

so why was he not picked higher in the draft?

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Damn. He is very good at skating lol. Anyone know how his wrist shot is?

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the kid is a virtuoso with the puck, but i think there might have been worries about his abilities away from the puck and in his own end, which would explain how he fell in the draft. i'm excited about him despite knowing practically nothing about him. he could be a diamond in the rough.

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This footage makes him look amazing lol. I think it is impossible to knock him over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOMnZjW7RQ&NR=1

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08-12-2007, 01:04 PM
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from what i have seen and heard he does have the skill. just like any other prospect he will have to improve other areas of his game. he has lots of time to do that though. he will be a small skilled player. man we have plenty of those already briere,giroux.if he wants to make the nhl he is going to have to work hard, and i don't see why a person in a position like that would not want to work hard. nice to see that we also have some bigger guys that can skate, JVR and Nodl.

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I'm starting to wonder why he wasn't taken higher.

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I'm starting to wonder why he wasn't taken higher.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=96398

clearly has some skills, but it hasn't translated to that great production.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=89489

the difference is humorous.

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I'm starting to wonder why he wasn't taken higher.
For those of us who play NHL 2k5.

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he has a fairly good shot and is excellent at driving to the net, the only thing i found about him was that he did not score on all of his chances. he really isnt too bad defensively. there have been much better players for sure, but i think hes alright.

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08-12-2007, 05:14 PM
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SiaT beat me to my question.

What are the chances that Kempe will be one of the players on the "biggest draft steals" list?

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08-12-2007, 05:20 PM
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SiaT beat me to my question.

What are the chances that Kempe will be one of the players on the "biggest draft steals" list?
he needs to produce a hell of a lot more in the Q next year for me to get super excited about him... he looks fun to watch, but it's ultimately about production.

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I think part of the reason for his low point production was that it was his first year playing in North America. Give the kid a season or two to fully adjust and we'll see how well he does then.

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I think part of the reason for his low point production was that it was his first year playing in North America. Give the kid a season or two to fully adjust and we'll see how well he does then.
Yeah exactly, I mean Giroux is definitely farther along, but he's been playing in Quebec for all his life. As someone who was still making a transition to the North American game, I'd give him some time. Still, he needs to put it all together before I get optimistic about him.

The thing that really confuses me is how Klotz was taken ahead of him.

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Yeah exactly, I mean Giroux is definitely farther along, but he's been playing in Quebec for all his life. As someone who was still making a transition to the North American game, I'd give him some time. Still, he needs to put it all together before I get optimistic about him.

The thing that really confuses me is how Klotz was taken ahead of him.
Giroux actually played in northern Ontario.

And why no love for Blood?

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he needs to produce a hell of a lot more in the Q next year for me to get super excited about him... he looks fun to watch, but it's ultimately about production.
We're talking about prospects, so point totals aren't that important. With his skating and the way he crashes the net with reckless abandon he's definately an intriguing prospect.

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We're talking about prospects, so point totals aren't that important. With his skating and the way he crashes the net with reckless abandon he's definately an intriguing prospect.
i don't care what your raw stuff is... if you can't produce against kids in juniors, you're not going to produce against men in the pros. point totals are important in that sense... do 'projects' exist and develop later on? yes... but generally you see declining production through the levels... not increasing.

this isn't a sport based on judging... you have to produce to win.

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there are also hundreds of kids who have lit it up in the Q and don't even make it to the bigs. sometimes the player ends up on a crappy team, and can't produce without any support.

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he needs to produce a hell of a lot more in the Q next year for me to get super excited about him... he looks fun to watch, but it's ultimately about production.
He reminds me quite a bit of Afanasenkov in that sense. In short, that leaves me less than optimistic.

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all flash and no finish, eh?

i sure hope not. i'm looking forward to having a mario on the ice that i'm not afraid of.

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i don't care what your raw stuff is... if you can't produce against kids in juniors, you're not going to produce against men in the pros. point totals are important in that sense... do 'projects' exist and develop later on? yes... but generally you see declining production through the levels... not increasing.

this isn't a sport based on judging... you have to produce to win.
Point totals aren't the greatest indicators of success at the NHL level when talking about junior level players.

Draft picks are all about judging and making projections. They took him based on how good they think he can be when he's fully developed as a player.

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Point totals aren't the greatest indicators of success at the NHL level when talking about junior level players.

Draft picks are all about judging and making projections. They took him based on how good they think he can be when he's fully developed as a player.
yes, of course, but the reason they took him in the 5th round was because he hasn't produced all that much yet, which was the original point of my post. that being said, if he doesn't improve significantly on what he did last season, then the chances that he's worth anything in the NHL will be pretty much null.

if you can't dominate kids, you're going to have a tough time when the skill level increases considerably across the board.

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It also helps when your team is half decent.
Incase you didn't know, well..the fog devils in the 2006-2007 season were kind of sucky. And it was only his first year in the Q so just wait until to see what happens this year with him, hopefully he'll have a great season

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