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08-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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What is Radulov worth to the Preds

I know he's untouchable and a trade won't happen - but hypothetically speaking, what would Vancouver have to offer to acquire Radulov?
I'm having a bit of a debate with somebody on another message board who proposed the following deal:
Morrison
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conditional pick

for

Bonk
Radulov


Now, I know it's a ridiculous proposal - but I'm trying to convince him that it's ridiculous, which is tough to do. Not only is this trade undervaluing Radulov, but Bonk is not going to be traded after just being signed. Anyway - what is he actually worth?

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I know he's untouchable and a trade won't happen - but hypothetically speaking, what would Vancouver have to offer to acquire Radulov?
I'm having a bit of a debate with somebody on another message board who proposed the following deal:
Morrison
Schneider
conditional pick

for

Bonk
Radulov


Now, I know it's a ridiculous proposal - but I'm trying to convince him that it's ridiculous, which is tough to do. Not only is this trade undervaluing Radulov, but Bonk is not going to be traded after just being signed. Anyway - what is he actually worth?
I cant say what it would take to get him in trade, but Rads is essentially our version of Vanek... he has the potential to be a 40 goal scorer, which would be a first in preds history.

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I know he's untouchable and a trade won't happen - but hypothetically speaking, what would Vancouver have to offer to acquire Radulov?
I'm having a bit of a debate with somebody on another message board who proposed the following deal:
Morrison
Schneider
conditional pick

for

Bonk
Radulov


Now, I know it's a ridiculous proposal - but I'm trying to convince him that it's ridiculous, which is tough to do. Not only is this trade undervaluing Radulov, but Bonk is not going to be traded after just being signed. Anyway - what is he actually worth?
If I were you, I wouldn't stick around for the responses. That package wouldn't touch Radulov alone.

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That trade is about as ridiculous as proposing Radulov for Luongo, straight up, with a straight face.....

In reality, given our budgetary constraints at the present time, there is nobody on your roster or prospect list that would make sense to trade Radulov for.

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If I were you, I wouldn't stick around for the responses. That package wouldn't touch Radulov alone.
I wish someone would explain to me the purpose of these "arm chair GM" trade proposals on here......I just don't get it.

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Morrison
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conditional pick

for

Bonk
Radulov

Wow, that's bad. But you already knew that.

I dont think Vancouver has a player or combination of players that its willing to trade (i.e. no Luongo) that could get Radulov.

Much less Radulov and Bonk, who I get the feeling is an absolute perfect fit for what Barry Trotz wants to do on the ice.

Honestly, Radulov isnt only a young sniper with 40G potential, he's also a fan favorite (which is more important to Nashville than most other teams). There's nothing in the NHL short of Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin level that could net Rads.

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Honestly, to get Radulov.......It would take too much. We are talking Ohlund + Bourdon.....if just that. Is that feasible for the Canucks? No. Would this help the Predators? No. The point I'm making is two-fold. One, the two teams are terrible trading partners now that we have dealt Upshall and Hartnell, as well as losing Kariya/Forsberg. Two, Radulov has too much value to this team to move due to our lack of high-end forwards. A three-way trade would be just about the only way a deal could get done. Still, lets be honest here, Radulov, along with Weber, are going nowhere....

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Wow, that's bad. But you already knew that.

I dont think Vancouver has a player or combination of players that its willing to trade (i.e. no Luongo) that could get Radulov.

Much less Radulov and Bonk, who I get the feeling is an absolute perfect fit for what Barry Trotz wants to do on the ice.

Honestly, Radulov isnt only a young sniper with 40G potential, he's also a fan favorite (which is more important to Nashville than most other teams). There's nothing in the NHL short of Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin level that could net Rads.
You wouldn't trade Radulov for Getzlaf, Staal, or Vanek?

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You wouldn't trade Radulov for Getzlaf, Staal, or Vanek?
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You wouldn't trade Radulov for Getzlaf, Staal, or Vanek?
Getzlaf - no (although I do really like his game and think the value is there). Staal - yes. Vanek - no....not with the contract he has now.

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which Staal are we talking about here?

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do you think Rads will score 40 this year?

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No, I don't.... although he certainly will have more opportunity than most young players in the league and it isn't outside of the realm of possibility. I'd be thrilled if he could match Kariya's numbers from last year.

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as I think handtrick was alluding to, rads value to THIS team THIS year is not only that he is very good but he is very cheap. We couldnt trade Rads for Vanek straight up even if both teams wanted to because it would add over 6 million in salary

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which Staal are we talking about here?
I was referring to Eric Staal.

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Getzlaf - no (although I do really like his game and think the value is there). Staal - yes. Vanek - no....not with the contract he has now.
Vanek's contract would just put us out of the deal. I agree with Enoch. Stall would be hard to do, but I probably would do it. Though I could change my mind about this tomorrow.

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He may very well be the key to a successful season for Nashville this year. He's going to get tons of ice by skating a regular shift and play on the first powerplay unit. His offensive creativity will explode this season and he would likely be my first pick for a player in regards to potential point improvement this year.

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Honestly, to get Radulov.......It would take too much. We are talking Ohlund + Bourdon.....if just that. Is that feasible for the Canucks? No. Would this help the Predators? No. The point I'm making is two-fold. One, the two teams are terrible trading partners now that we have dealt Upshall and Hartnell, as well as losing Kariya/Forsberg. Two, Radulov has too much value to this team to move due to our lack of high-end forwards. A three-way trade would be just about the only way a deal could get done. Still, lets be honest here, Radulov, along with Weber, are going nowhere....
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I have high expectations for Rads.. 35 goals/75 points this year and 40 goals/85 points next year.

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I think its too early to have such high expectations for Radulov this early. Naturally I think we'll see his point total go up with more ice time, and games, especially if he gets even more PP time this year. I do think we'll see him on a top 2 line; however lets see how he handles playing against team's top lines now instead of being used as a third line weapon.

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I think its too early to have such high expectations for Radulov this early. Naturally I think we'll see his point total go up with more ice time, and games, especially if he gets even more PP time this year. I do think we'll see him on a top 2 line; however lets see how he handles playing against team's top lines now instead of being used as a third line weapon.
I think the expectations are realistic IF we had a strong duo of scoring lines. As it is, we may not be quite there. I still expect 30 goals and 60 points out of Radulov. He is too good not to score in offensive situations, and his accuracy is fantastic. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see him no. 3 in points at the end of the year behind Arnott and Dumont.

I know its crazy to pin our hopes on Radulov, but can we do any less after his playoff performance? He is a fantastic offensive talent, easily the best on this team. Lets hope it continues to translate well.

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I think the expectations are realistic IF we had a strong duo of scoring lines. As it is, we may not be quite there. I still expect 30 goals and 60 points out of Radulov. He is too good not to score in offensive situations, and his accuracy is fantastic. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see him no. 3 in points at the end of the year behind Arnott and Dumont.

I know its crazy to pin our hopes on Radulov, but can we do any less after his playoff performance? He is a fantastic offensive talent, easily the best on this team. Lets hope it continues to translate well.
I'm not saying he's going to slump and go Arkhipov on us. However, to automatically pin him for 35-50 goals is a bit much. Obviously he has alot going in his favor. He's going to get a full season (barring injury) up with the big club, hopefully more ice time (you never know with Trotz.....), hopefully more PP time, more consistent linemates (well somewhat, there is the Trotz factor, but he should be playing with Legwand and Erat and not Tootoo...), and hopefully natural growth as a player (more experience, rounding out game). However, there are also question marks there as well, can he handle now being focused on? Can he handle new pressures? Can he continue to grow his game?

I myself would probably answer yes to those last questions just based on what we've seen from him, but he still needs to answer them this year. I think if people were to look back over some of my previous posts, they'd see that I'm a huge Radulov supporter and fan. However, lets not rush into the assumption that he's going to put up big time points right away.

He is something that we really haven't had before though and will be a special player in my opinion.

(And yes, Radulov was fantastic in the playoffs. Well, until his suspension...) I know its pretty much impossible, but I would have loved to see us convince Hornqvist to stay, sign Forsberg and put them together with Radulov just to see what comes out of that line... Although thats a bit of a NHL 0whatever line, lol.

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I'm not saying he's going to slump and go Arkhipov on us. However, to automatically pin him for 35-50 goals is a bit much. Obviously he has alot going in his favor. He's going to get a full season (barring injury) up with the big club, hopefully more ice time (you never know with Trotz.....), hopefully more PP time, more consistent linemates (well somewhat, there is the Trotz factor, but he should be playing with Legwand and Erat and not Tootoo...), and hopefully natural growth as a player (more experience, rounding out game). However, there are also question marks there as well, can he handle now being focused on? Can he handle new pressures? Can he continue to grow his game?

I myself would probably answer yes to those last questions just based on what we've seen from him, but he still needs to answer them this year. I think if people were to look back over some of my previous posts, they'd see that I'm a huge Radulov supporter and fan. However, lets not rush into the assumption that he's going to put up big time points right away.

He is something that we really haven't had before though and will be a special player in my opinion.

(And yes, Radulov was fantastic in the playoffs. Well, until his suspension...) I know its pretty much impossible, but I would have loved to see us convince Hornqvist to stay, sign Forsberg and put them together with Radulov just to see what comes out of that line... Although thats a bit of a NHL 0whatever line, lol.
Don't get me wrong, I understand your reasoning, and it is hard not to agree with you. I just feel Radulov is not going to follow the typical Trotzian offensive player pathway - he is simply too good. His talent is unquestionable. The one knock I think most of us had on him last year was his poor skating. After the Forsberg acqusition, his skating and strength on his skates completely changed. For that reason, I am a believer that he will hit 30+ goals this year. If he can stay strong on his skates and play as he did down the stretch, he can be a dominant player in this league. I believe he has taken that step. Will their be slumps? Yes. Will their be extremely high expectations? Yes. Will he excel? I truly believe he will.

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