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03-12-2004, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Modano = God
What a joke, Kipper hasn't even played half the amount of games Turco has and isn't nearly as good. Let him play 60 and we'll see how his pretty 1.68 GAA has been affected by then. Nabokov, Aebischer or even Vokoun have been better than Kiprussof.
Ironic that Turco didn't hit 60 last year but most Stars fans felt he should've won the Vezina.

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Originally Posted by PecaFan
Where the hell did this "Vokoun has been great this year" myth start? The guy has one of the worst goals against in the league, currently sitting *31st* in the league. He's sitting *27th* in save percentage. The guy has worse stats than Chris Osgood, and no one's trumpeting Chris as having a great year.

The reason Nashville has improved and will likely make the playoffs is that they're *scoring way more* than last year. Last year, they were practically worst in the league, this year they're 13th overall. They've already scored more goals this year than in all of last year.
Goalies are hard to judge from stats only. All goalie stat categories are decent but not perfect. I don't think we can ever judge how good a goalie is purely from stats. I can't imagine even how a great goalie stat might look like. Perhaps "Qualified scoring chance saved %" or something like that. But then it would be subjective as to what a qualified scoring chance might be.

The reason many are impressed with him is simply because he gave his team a chance to win games. Thats all you can ever ask of a goalie. And when doing it on a team that isn't as deep as the top teams or as organized as the best defensive teams means the stats may not be fantastic. Granted he has cooled off a bit, but still a good season for him.

And Turco is very sharp right now. Great asset for Dallas.

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Originally Posted by Modano = God
Then explain to me why Turco didn't win the Vezina last season? Judging by your standards he should have won it by a 100 mile difference.
Oh man.. another fight about Turco.. too bad i wasnt here when it started...

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Originally Posted by Blackjack
Ironic that Turco didn't hit 60 last year but most Stars fans felt he should've won the Vezina.
Right now Kipper has not played but a little more than half the games Turco played last year. And Turco was criticized for how few games he played...... go figure.

When you play in about 50+ regular season games it is not as big a leap to 60 as it is from 30 something.

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Originally Posted by Blackjack
Ironic that Turco didn't hit 60 last year but most Stars fans felt he should've won the Vezina.
55 or 28, there's a huge difference. 55 Is actually the average number of games most starters play. 28 Are backup totals..

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Originally Posted by noname_brand
Ok, so you're saying that if a goalie played 3 game in a season and had a 2.05 GAA, he'd be better than a goalie that played 60 games and had a 2.10 GAA? Right?
Not in this case, as Kiprusoff has still played a large amount of games.

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