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09-10-2007, 06:06 PM
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Training Camp Roster Released

Training camp roster was released today...

# CENTERS
19 Jason Arnott
14 Radek Bonk
11 David Legwand
12 Scott Nichol
48 Cal O'Reilly
37 Rich Peverley
53 Mike Santorelli
25 Jerred Smithson
57 Nick Spaling

# LEFT WINGS
10 Martin Erat
38 Vernon Fiddler
23 Martin Gelinas
62 Jason Guerriero
16 Darcy Hordichuk
42 Antti Pihlstrom
60 Mark Santorelli
49 Oliver Setzinger
59 Viktor Sjodin
26 Steve Sullivan
54 John Vigilante
55 Kelsey Wilson

# RIGHT WINGS
71 J.P. Dumont
28 Matt Ellison
27 Patric Hornqvist
15 Josh Langfeld
46 Ryan Maki
41 Jed Ortmeyer
47 Alexander Radulov
63 Andreas Thuresson
22 Jordin Tootoo
17 Shane Willis

# DEFENSEMEN
56 Jonathon Blum
7 Greg de Vries
61 Robert Dietrich
32 Cody Franson
2 Dan Hamhuis
36 Alex Henry
8 Kevin Klein
4 Ville Koistinen
45 Teemu Laakso
51 Mark Matheson
43 Janne Niskala
33 Richard Stehlik
50 Alexander Sulzer
20 Ryan Suter
6 Shea Weber
40 Nolan Yonkman
5 Greg Zanon
3 Marek Zidlicky

# GOALTENDERS
58 Maxime Daigneault
39 Dan Ellis
34 Dov Grumet-Morris
30 Chris Mason
35 Pekka Rinne
1 Jeremy Smith

Paul McCann Reports


so no invites?

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Spals is wearing #57?? Damn you Legwand!

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I believe that Maxime Daigneault was invited

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I believe that Maxime Daigneault was invited
i might b mistaken but wasn't he a QMJHL All-Star a few years back? and very highly ranked

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I believe that Maxime Daigneault was invited
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i might b mistaken but wasn't he a QMJHL All-Star a few years back? and very highly ranked
Yes, he has been invited and will be in camp when it opens. And yes, he was a very highly rated goalie coming out of the Q and actually had very good numbers last season (23-6, 2.64, .910) in Hershey where he split time with Fredric Cassivi.

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so no invites?
There are three free agent invitees so far, but none that I think you will get too excited about. The three are center Jason Guerriro, defenseman Mark Matheson, and goaltender Maxime Daigneault.

Of those three free agent invitees, I would say that the best NHL prospect is goaltender Maxime Daigneault. He was the first goalie ever to be drafted first overall in the QMJHL player draft and was a top goaltending prospect in his draft year when he was selected in the second round by the Capitals. He has spent a lot of time in the Caps organization, but was not resigned this summer when it became apparent that he had been passed on the depth charts by both Sergei Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth (who happens to share goalie duties in Plymouth (OHL) with Preds prospect Jeremy Smith) and he was relegated to backup duty last season as the Hershey Bears rode veteran minor leaguer Fredric Cassivi to the Calder Cup. Daigneault I remember as a big (6'3") butterfly goalie who used his size effectively to challenge shooters and take away the net. It'll definitely be interesting to see where he winds up fitting in training camp. He put up a 23-6-0 record last season with a .910 save percentage and 2.64 goals-against. Will he be given the opportunity to compete for the backup job behind Mason or will he simply be brought in to pair up with whichever goalie winds up in Milwaukee to start the season? I know this for sure, Dov Gromet-Morris definitely has to fight for that second slot in Milwaukee...otherwise he might very well wind up back in the ECHL to start the season.

I'm also intrigued by Jason Guerriero. I remember watching him on NESN's college game of the week during his four-year career at Northeastern University. Guerriero is a very small forward (5'8", 180 lbs), but has a legitimate shot at eventually cracking an NHL lineup if his skating is up to par or hopefully above-average. Guerriero was a point-per-game player at Northeastern throughout his collegiate career and put up respectable numbers in his second professional year last season (14+24=48) with a Milwaukee team that was not known for their offense. I'm very interested in getting a good look at Jason and seeing whether or not he has the skills that might eventually lead him to a job in the NHL down the road. Definitely a project, but Guerriero probably will be playing for a contract this season in hopes of landing himself a two-way deal next summer. Whether he will turn out to be the next Steve Sullivan or Darren Haydar is yet to be determined.

Matheson is another college graduate looking to break into professional hockey. After four years at UMass-Amherst, Matheson joined the Admirals late last season to get a taste of pro hockey. Mark is definitely pegged for Milwaukee or even Cincinnati this season for his rookie season. I remember hearing his name occasionally on television broadcasts of college games on NESN, but honestly don't think it was for anything more than making a hit or hitting a forward with a breakout pass. I have to believe that Matheson with his size (6'2", 210 lbs) will try to make it as a defensive defenseman.

Really wouldn't be surprised if we don't get any more additions to the training camp roster via tryouts. With the current situation our franchise is in, you must realize that we are going to be giving our younger players every opportunity to fill holes on the big club and even in the minor leagues. I actually think that Milwaukee is going to have a very young, but very talented roster this season which could be good for both franchises. I would still love to get Mike Johnson into a Predators uniform to give the coaching staff yet another option of how to fill Sully's void (Johnson could play either on the second line in a scoring role or he could allow Gelinas to play that role and fill in on the third line in more of a two-way checking role), but I'm not holding my breath. We also must remember that towards the end of camp...if we still have a hole to fill and like a player on a tryout with another franchise...we can extend them a contract and sign them if they agree.

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09-11-2007, 12:30 AM
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Does anyone have any kind of a schedule?

I'm also interested in Laakso, so if anyone sees him do anything, I'd appreciate a short report or something like that.

I think Laakso wasn't even supposed to come over, since he's playing next season in Finland anyway, but his agent thought it would be good for him to come since he was injured during the prospect camp.


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Does anyone have any kind of a schedule?

I'm also interested in Laakso, so if anyone sees him do anything, I'd appreciate a short report or something like that.
The schedule can be found here:
http://predators.nhl.com/team/app/?s...ticleid=336963

I'll be attending hopefully all of the training camp sessions next week and should be there for everything except for anything occuring between Sept. 21st-26th as I'll be in Connecticut.

I'll try to post my thoughts each afternoon for those that cannot make it down to the rink. Can't wait!

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except for anything occuring between Sept. 21st-26th as I'll be in Connecticut.
I heard that Laakso is supposed to come home on the 20th anyway (which would be great since the season is starting today over here and I don't want him missing too many games), so I guess the only match Laakso will have a chance to show anything is against Columbus, if he gets to play. And the scrimmages, of course.

Is that normal, that players leave before the preseason games? I understand that players are cut from training camp rosters according to what they show in training, but I mean if they're letting him know in advance like that..?

I wonder what the point is for attending if he's not staying no matter how he plays. I guess the information I got could be wrong, though.

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I heard that Laakso is supposed to come home on the 20th anyway (which would be great since the season is starting today over here and I don't want him missing too many games), so I guess the only match Laakso will have a chance to show anything is against Columbus, if he gets to play. And the scrimmages, of course.

Is that normal, that players leave before the preseason games? I understand that players are cut from training camp rosters according to what they show in training, but I mean if they're letting him know in advance like that..?

I wonder what the point is for attending if he's not staying no matter how he plays. I guess the information I got could be wrong, though.
No, what your saying is most likely true. As is the case with many junior prospects Laakso will probably attend training camp through the first "cut" day and will be reassigned to his Finnish team. As for why? I would speculate it is to get him acclimated to the organization and to see where his development is in relationship to other Predators defensive prospects. As you said, he probably won't play in any preseason games and that is not a bad thing from your prospective since he would avoid the risk of injury.

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I wonder what the point is for attending if he's not staying no matter how he plays. I guess the information I got could be wrong, though.
The Predators like to have some of the young guys come in (even though they won't make the team this year) so that they can see what it's like to play with the big boys. They also see what a NHL training camp is like and will get instructions on conditioning, etc. while they are here.

Many of our young guys have found this extremely helpful in the long run.

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Thanks guys.


By the way, I wonder if Hornqvist is really attending, as he was still playing with his team on Saturday, while Laakso missed that same game as he left for Nashville on Friday with the other Finns. I guess he had plenty of time to leave on Sunday or Monday as well...

I guess I just wish Hornqvist had left on Friday as well, as he scored two goals against HIFK on Saturday.

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I guess I just wish Hornqvist had left on Friday as well, as he scored two goals against HIFK on Saturday.
you and me both, we cant wait to get a look at this guy

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Sure Bets for the NHL squad:

(no order other then position)

1-Jason Arnott
2-Radek Bonk
3-David Legwand
4-Scott Nichol
5-Jerred Smithson

1-Martin Erat
2-Vernon Fiddler
3-Martin Gelinas
4-Darcy Hordichuk
5-Steve Sullivan

1-J.P. Dumont
2-Jed Ortmeyer
3-Alexander Radulov
4-Jordin Tootoo

1-Greg de Vries
2-Dan Hamhuis
3-Ryan Suter
4-Shea Weber
5-Greg Zanon
6-Marek Zidlicky

1-Chris Mason

Likely Training Camp Battles:
Kevin Klein and Ville Koistinen
Pekka Rinne and Dan Ellis

Best shot of stealing a spot:
Cal O'Reilly
Rich Peverley
Oliver Setzinger
Janne Niskala
Matt Ellison

Unlikely to make squad:
John Vigilante
Jason Guerriero
Kelsey Wilson
Josh Langfeld
Shane Willis
Cody Franson
Alex Henry
Dov Grumet-Morris
Ryan Maki
Nolan Yonkman
Mike Santorelli
Antti Pihlstrom
Andreas Thuresson

Very Unlikely to make squad:
Nick Spaling
Viktor Sjodin
Jonathon Blum
Robert Dietrich
Maxime Daigneault
Jeremy Smith
Mark Santorelli
Mark Matheson
Richard Stehlik
Alexander Sulzer

Returning to Europe:
Patric Hornqvist
Teemu Laakso

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Training camp roster was released today...

# CENTERS
19 Jason Arnott
14 Radek Bonk
11 David Legwand
12 Scott Nichol
48 Cal O'Reilly
37 Rich Peverley
53 Mike Santorelli
25 Jerred Smithson
57 Nick Spaling

# LEFT WINGS
10 Martin Erat
38 Vernon Fiddler
23 Martin Gelinas
62 Jason Guerriero
16 Darcy Hordichuk
42 Antti Pihlstrom
60 Mark Santorelli
49 Oliver Setzinger
59 Viktor Sjodin
26 Steve Sullivan
54 John Vigilante
55 Kelsey Wilson

# RIGHT WINGS
71 J.P. Dumont
28 Matt Ellison
27 Patric Hornqvist
15 Josh Langfeld
46 Ryan Maki
41 Jed Ortmeyer
47 Alexander Radulov
63 Andreas Thuresson
22 Jordin Tootoo
17 Shane Willis

# DEFENSEMEN
56 Jonathon Blum
7 Greg de Vries
61 Robert Dietrich
32 Cody Franson
2 Dan Hamhuis
36 Alex Henry
8 Kevin Klein
4 Ville Koistinen
45 Teemu Laakso
51 Mark Matheson
43 Janne Niskala
33 Richard Stehlik
50 Alexander Sulzer
20 Ryan Suter
6 Shea Weber
40 Nolan Yonkman
5 Greg Zanon
3 Marek Zidlicky

# GOALTENDERS
58 Maxime Daigneault
39 Dan Ellis
34 Dov Grumet-Morris
30 Chris Mason
35 Pekka Rinne
1 Jeremy Smith

Paul McCann Reports
so no invites?
Still weak at the foward position; would like to see one of the young guys or euros step up and grab a spot; would rather not see the highlighted guys be on our top 2 lines.

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Still weak at the foward position; would like to see one of the young guys or euros step up and grab a spot; would rather not see the highlighted guys be on our top 2 lines.
seriously ... bring in Hornqvist, asap ... I have liked what I've seen from him in the times that I've seen him in camp (rookie)

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Best shot of stealing a spot:
Oliver Setzinger
I would replace Oliver with #42 Antti Pihlström.

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I am excited and anxious to see some of our young Euros...


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I would replace Oliver with #42 Antti Pihlström.
Isn't he more in the role of Tootoo?

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Isn't he more in the role of Tootoo?
better keep him around then, I predict this is the year that Toots seriously hurts himself when he slams into the boards after lining some guy up. I always think he is one sidestep away from ending his career.

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Isn't he more in the role of Tootoo?
Role, yes, but he does it in a different fashion I think. Not that I've seen too much from either player. Anyways, I think Pihlström will end up in the minors, but I hope he gets a shot now and then. Maybe if Tootoo gets injured or suspended or whatever.

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don't under-rate Setzinger......he should do very well...

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don't under-rate Setzinger......he should do very well...
I think Thuresson, Pihlstrom, and Setzinger will all have good camps....It will be interesting to see what we do if for instance, our bottom feeders such as Fiddler, Smithson, Nichol, etc. are outplayed in camp by these guys.....will we see them make the team? It is doubtful, but if Setzinger shows offensive ability with a respecitable defensive game and Thuresson/Pihlstrom can grind it out better than Fiddler.....maybe we will be find heading into the season.

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I think Thuresson, Pihlstrom, and Setzinger will all have good camps....It will be interesting to see what we do if for instance, our bottom feeders such as Fiddler, Smithson, Nichol, etc. are outplayed in camp by these guys.....will we see them make the team? It is doubtful, but if Setzinger shows offensive ability with a respecitable defensive game and Thuresson/Pihlstrom can grind it out better than Fiddler.....maybe we will be find heading into the season.
According to this interview, it certainly doesn't look like Trotz views Fiddler as one of the bottom feeders....


http://predators.nhl.com/team/app/?s...ticleid=337241

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According to this interview, it certainly doesn't look like Trotz views Fiddler as one of the bottom feeders....


http://predators.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=337241
Trotz doesn't, but I do . Fiddler is a 4th liner in my book. He is a poor even strength player, with decent penalty kill abilities. He has below average offensive talent, little grinding ability, and minimal even strength defensive effectiveness.....Of course, I know Trotz views him completely different.

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