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09-25-2007, 06:25 AM
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Straight away it has to be Ivan Novoseltsev. That guy skated like he had a jet up his arse.

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09-25-2007, 12:32 PM
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He was GREAT his only season with the Minnesota North Stars (36 goals, 43 assists), and scored nearly 300 goals in the NHL, so it wasn't THAT bad! But I know what you mean, at times he would just go right past the puck! Opps!
i really liked Courtnall too... and man could he pick em up and put em down...

a few other guys not mentioned yet... (or that i may have passed over)

Esa Tikannen
Paul Ranheim
Koivu can really skate

now i think it's Afinogenov/Gaborik

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09-25-2007, 01:06 PM
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Mikhail Grabovsky for the win :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAsFxz67p3U

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09-25-2007, 01:19 PM
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thoughts on Kris Draper as far as a skater?

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09-25-2007, 01:28 PM
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he's slowed a bit with age but he's a top notch skater and is right up there with the faster guys.

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09-25-2007, 02:35 PM
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Gartner
Lafleur
P. Bure

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09-25-2007, 03:53 PM
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Scott Niedermayer.

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09-25-2007, 05:49 PM
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Straight away it has to be Ivan Novoseltsev. That guy skated like he had a jet up his arse.
I skate like I have a jet up my arse. If I could only figure out how to turn it on.

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09-28-2007, 02:48 AM
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Oleg Petrov
Pavel Bure
Yvan Cournoyer
Sergei Federov
Paul Coffey
Russ Courtnall

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09-28-2007, 11:07 AM
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a few other guys not mentioned yet... (or that i may have passed over)

Esa Tikannen
Paul Ranheim
Koivu can really skate
Wow! I didn't expect to see his name here. I remember it well when he led Edina High to the 1984 Minnesota HS championship.

Pretty select company. To be even named on this discussion is quite an honor.

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10-01-2007, 08:34 PM
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Bob Bourne
Mike Gartner
Paul Coffey

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10-02-2007, 04:38 PM
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Since the topic is "greatest", not just fastest, here are my picks:

Bobby Orr-the best of everything skating-wise.
Paul Coffey-smoothest I've ever seen, but lacked Orr's pure power.
Pavel Bure-what speed! And hands at the same time!
Sergei Fedorov-almost a clone of Bure, but a better all-around player.
Bobby Hull-power and speed personified.
Mike Modano-man, he was fast when he was young!
Gil Perreault-super smooth, and pretty quick when he was young.
Marian Gaborik-smoothest fast guy in the NHL today.

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10-12-2007, 05:01 PM
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There is a difference between greatest skater and fastest skater.

The four best skaters I've ever seen in no particular order: Slava Fetisov, Sergei Fedorov, Paul Coffey and Scott Neidermayer.
I agree with the premise in the 1st sentence. For example - Alexander Mogilny - before he broke his leg - was incredibly fast & good acceleration, well above his peers, but I wouldn't say he could turn on a dime. Lafleur was the most effortless skater I've seen, Coffey close behind. Glenn Anderson and Mike Gartner the fastest. Orr's knees gave out by the time I saw him, so I can't comment there.

Harold Snepts was the slowest / most plodding.

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10-21-2007, 12:11 PM
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Harold Snepts was the slowest / most plodding.
No...that was Dan Maloney...aka ' old snowshoes '

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10-21-2007, 12:27 PM
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Koivu, Tikkanen in their primes aren't even close to Teemu Selänne, even less close to the best(and fastest) finnish skater ever, Sami Kapanen, who should be a lock on the top 10.

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10-23-2007, 02:32 PM
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1. orr
2. lafleur
3. bure
4. coffey
5. perreault
6. modano
7. fedorov
8. cournoyer
9. niedermayer
10.gartner

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10-26-2007, 02:39 PM
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Here are my top 5. Lets also keep in mind the players in the past too cuz they had heavier and not all the high end skates as we do now but they still did better than alot of players now adays


1.Guy Lafluer
2.Bobby Orr
3.Pavel Bure


Guy Lafluer is the best skater ever in the NHL, he clocked fastest skater too with Pavel Bure just a lil bit behind him. Bobby Orr we all know how good he is and Pavel Bure was just exciting to watch, he is THE most electrifying player to ever play the game. Whos your picks for the top 3 skaters ever?

The Best modern day skater is Marion Gaborik

Off the top of my head...

Bobby Orr
Guy Lafleur
Scott Niedermayer
Mike Gartner
Paval Bure
Sergei Fedorov
Sami Kapanen
and, in the context of his era, Cyclone Taylor.
also, Rico Fata and Konstantin Koltsov may be faster than any of the above, but unfortunately for them, they had little else to their games.

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12-10-2012, 04:20 PM
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To me, there's a big difference between fastest skater and greatest skater. When I think of all out speed on the ice, I think of guys like Gartner, Bure, Cournoyer, Lafleur and Anderson.

But when I think of the term "Greatest Skater" I think of guys who not only were fast but could control the pace/flow of a game when carrying a puck by speeding up, slowing down, turning, etc. These guys used all their edges, were capable of a tight turning radius, were agile, could skate backwards as effortlessly as forward, etc. The "GREATEST SKATERS" I've seen are:

Bobby Orr
Paul Coffey
Sergei Fedorov
Mike Modano
Scott Niedermayer

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12-10-2012, 04:33 PM
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When was Lafleur ever timed?

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12-10-2012, 04:39 PM
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there was this thing don cherry calls "the gear" where a guy can be skating at almost top speed while carrying the puck, and then either slow down to freeze the defender before speeding back up, or hit an even higher speed to blow right by that defender.

that to me is a truly great skater. speed is one thing, but the level of control required to do this is staggering.

off the top of my head, orr, bure, and niedermayer could all do this. i spent a lot of years trying to figure out how to do this when i was younger-- and i'm a pretty good skater for someone who never played in a competitive league-- but it was just so far beyond my physical abilities. firing off a wrist shot in mid-stride too. how did bure do that?

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12-10-2012, 07:24 PM
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Coffey was the smoothest skater in league history and could do it all.

He made it look effortless.

Any of Orr, Hull, Lafleur, Coffey, Fedorov, Bure, Gartner etc. would be in the running legitimately.

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Paul Coffey. He just made it look so easy

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12-10-2012, 08:57 PM
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there was this thing don cherry calls "the gear" where a guy can be skating at almost top speed while carrying the puck, and then either slow down to freeze the defender before speeding back up, or hit an even higher speed to blow right by that defender.

that to me is a truly great skater. speed is one thing, but the level of control required to do this is staggering.

off the top of my head, orr, bure, and niedermayer could all do this. i spent a lot of years trying to figure out how to do this when i was younger-- and i'm a pretty good skater for someone who never played in a competitive league-- but it was just so far beyond my physical abilities. firing off a wrist shot in mid-stride too. how did bure do that?
Yup...this guy...


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12-11-2012, 12:25 AM
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Not really the quickest ever, but Paul Kariya was very fast. He was among the best skaters (well excluding backwards skating ability since he seldom used it) in the 90s. He used to dominate players in the puck relay. I don't think Kariya entered the fastest skater competition before though.

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I've never seen Orr or some of the older guys. I've seen Courtnall and Gartner etc. but I've never seen anybody with speed like Bure.
You never saw Fedorov, Gartner, or Coffey?

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Just for the fun of it, here is my Top 5:

1.Bobby Orr, the most complete skater
2.Scott Niedermayer, the second most complete skater
3.Paul Coffey, the best glider
4.Reijo Ruotsalainen, probably one of the 3 best gliders with Coffey and Niedermayer
5.Sergei Fedorov, doesn't have the breakaway speed of Pavel Bure but his overall skating abilities are unbelievable
Except Fedorov had better speed than Bure. Fedorov just wasn't out there cherry-picking for breakaways.

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I didn't notice it at first, but there are 4 defensemen on my list and 1 center who also played defense.
Might be because skating is far more important for defensemen than for forwards. A poor skating forward (Dave Andreychuk, Tomas Holmstrom) can get by and succeed with a little bit of skill, but a poor skating defenseman (Hal Gill, early Chara) is doomed to failure unless he has something significant in his favor (size, strength, skill). Look at the transformation Chara made from his early years in New York to his years in Ottawa when he learned to skate. He went from being the biggest pylon ever to being a top-notch defenseman.

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1. orr
2. lafleur
3. bure
4. coffey
5. perreault
6. modano
7. fedorov
8. cournoyer
9. niedermayer
10.gartner
Modano over Fedorov? Modano was a straight-line skater who still didn't have Fedorov's speed. Modano doesn't belong on this list. So many more names can easily go before MikeyMo: Savard, Yzerman, Mogilny, Selanne, Kariya, MacInnis, Housley, LaFontaine, Turgeon, Jagr, Kovalev, Balderis. Modano had speed on some of these guys, but this list is about greatest skater, not fastest skater.

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