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09-29-2007, 02:00 PM
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It's in Ontario and the rules are pretty much like most beer leagues. No slapshots, no hitting (rubbing along the wall is permitted), no fighting.



My speed isn't bad. I'm one of the faster players WITHOUT the puck from blueline to blueline. But once I get the puck on my stick I stop moving my legs and that's where I get in trouble. So I'm good at chasing down loose pucks or shadowing some players, but my offensive capabilities at this level are sparse.
I don't think my conditioning is the issue. I'm 6'1", 215lbs and my body fat % hovers between 7-8%. I'm not saying this to toot my horn, only to show that it's not a matter of physical conditioning but rather, because I have limited hockey experience, my brain can't work as fast as my hands and legs. While most guys, who've played their whole lives make decisions based on instinct, I have to think about what I'm going to do. And with a league that's this quick, that's a game killer.

I've actually been calling around to rinks about getting ice for next year. I want to start a 30+ league where each team is only allowed 1 or 2 guys from a top level.
That's how this league used to be, but because they've dropped in numbers the last couple of years, they're taking everyone.
I have no problems with that, but the majority of newcomers have graduated from Midget AAA and the local Junior C/B circuit.
It's great for guys that want to continue playing a high level of hockey in a fun and safe environment. But for guys like myself, it's becoming more of a chore than enjoyment.
Then just change your style. Become a defensive d man and just work on the outlet pass. You donīt need to be an offnsive threat to be an effective player. That could solve the problem.

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10-01-2007, 09:21 AM
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Then just change your style. Become a defensive d man and just work on the outlet pass. You donīt need to be an offnsive threat to be an effective player. That could solve the problem.
But in all honesty, who wants to join a beer league for a few hundred $$$ to be a 'grinder' or 'defensive specialist'? I'm not on a team that's fighting for the Allen Cup or competing for a provincial AAA crown.
I'm a 33 year old father of 2 that wants to get out and believe he's Steve Yzerman for a night.

In last years playoffs the mantra of my line was "don't get scored on". I can't tell you how boring it was. We simply worked hard in our zone and then got it out and changed it up. On almost every occasion if I did try to make something happen in the offensive zone, my linemates weren't there because they were hanging back or changing up after a 25 second shift. Maybe I "don't get it" but I'm not built like that. I want to have FUN and it seems that a lot of guys I've played with over the years don't get that. They still see hockey, in any form, to be the most serious thing on the planet; "WIN, WIN, WIN. Don't try anything fancy. Dump the puck in. Backcheck, etc,etc,etc."

If the only thing I can do in a league is be a 3rd line plugger that only has worth in giving the top 2 lines a rest while providing semi-decent defense then I don't want to play.
Tonight is pretty much going to be my last game.
I got invited into a weekly pick-up game that I know I can have fun with so that's what I'm going to do.
I'll leave this league to all those former junior players so they can have fun not having fun.

And I know I'm not the only one that feels that way in this league as I've talked to about a half-dozen other guys that expressed the same concerns. Over the course of 2 years, the league has turned into a retirement league for 22-25 year old kids that just finished their ultra-competitive Junior C or B careers. I have no problem with that. I'm just glad I realized my limitations before I wasted any more time in the league.

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10-01-2007, 01:19 PM
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Good luck

Hank, I think what is becoming clear with all the opinions expressed is that adult hockey leagues are more enjoyable if you are playing with a group of players close in ability. Some dunderheads probably want to reach down two levels so they can excel, but people playing 'over their head' don't enjoy it as much and their teammates may not want them either.

Good luck in your quest to find a more enjoyable group. One comment on your remark about them "having fun not having fun"... if they are pretty competitive, fun is taking it seriously.

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Hank, I think what is becoming clear with all the opinions expressed is that adult hockey leagues are more enjoyable if you are playing with a group of players close in ability. Some dunderheads probably want to reach down two levels so they can excel, but people playing 'over their head' don't enjoy it as much and their teammates may not want them either.
I think this is abundantly clear. Last year we had another guy on our team that was worse than I was. When it was revealed that he couldn't finish the year, everyone was pretty happy about it.

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Good luck in your quest to find a more enjoyable group. One comment on your remark about them "having fun not having fun"... if they are pretty competitive, fun is taking it seriously.
That's very true. It just strikes me odd when you're out on the ice or on the bench and you don't see one smile for the entire game. But maybe that's what is so fun about it. This IS their NHL.

But in the end, I didn't make this thread looking for advice on how to survive this league. It was merely a way for me to vent. I know I'm not good enough for the league and tonight is my last game. It's a 7:00 start so my kids can watch me play. My 4-year-old loves watching me (as he's too young to realize I stink) and it helps motivate him to play as well.

Between him playing, my home made rink and the occasional pick-up game, I'll get my hockey fill this season.

With the cash I'll be getting back and the extra time I've actually joined a near-by gym and will begin my career in 'White Collar Boxing'. I'm very excited about this new sporting venture. At least in this sport, when I get frustrated it's encouraged to punch someone in the head.

Thanks for all the thoughts/advice guys.

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my story

Hank, I am badly out of shape (see "Stamina" thread), unless - as Charles Barkley pointed out in 1984, "round is a shape!"

Hadn't seen the inside of a rink in 15 years. Like you, my son has an interest. (Amazing, really. My mom 1500 miles away kept old jerseys and trophies. He also saw my best friend's kids were playing. Other than that, NO exposure.) Because I was getting bored taking him to the public skate this spring, I decided to make a comeback and join the rink's infant 35+ league.

I had no idea what to expect. My first game, despite weighing seventy pounds more than my HS weight, I had a hat trick a few minutes into the second period. I was loving it!

I'm very competitive. Once the puck drops, I go hard. When I was a kid that was considered a GOOD thing. Some guys aren't as serious as I am. One guy was like me times ten. He said it best, "as long as they keep track of the score I'm gonna play to win."

I think the true 'recreational' stuff is at the lunchtime Open Hockey session. Our games have jerseys, refs that make $30 or 40, and goaltenders. I don't cry if we lose, but I do look forward to the games and I do hope we win. And on the ice I do whatever I can to see that it happens, although I do tire easily now!! I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

One of the guys on my team rents ice weekly and has a purely recreational scrimmage. No positions, no clock, no refs. I've skated with him twice and I try all sorts of stuff I'd never do in a 'real' game.

Hey, I know I'm no good. We hit the teen years and a lot of guys passed me by physically. Nobody loved it more than me, though, so it has been enjoyable to play again. When I moved I figured I'd never see hockey again. (There weren't (m)any rinks here fifteen years ago.)

Sounds to me like you'll find the appropriate forum for your game. You'll enjoy it more when you do.

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Hank, I am badly out of shape (see "Stamina" thread), unless - as Charles Barkley pointed out in 1984, "round is a shape!"

Hadn't seen the inside of a rink in 15 years. Like you, my son has an interest. (Amazing, really. My mom 1500 miles away kept old jerseys and trophies. He also saw my best friend's kids were playing. Other than that, NO exposure.) Because I was getting bored taking him to the public skate this spring, I decided to make a comeback and join the rink's infant 35+ league.

I had no idea what to expect. My first game, despite weighing seventy pounds more than my HS weight, I had a hat trick a few minutes into the second period. I was loving it!

I'm very competitive. Once the puck drops, I go hard. When I was a kid that was considered a GOOD thing. Some guys aren't as serious as I am. One guy was like me times ten. He said it best, "as long as they keep track of the score I'm gonna play to win."

I think the true 'recreational' stuff is at the lunchtime Open Hockey session. Our games have jerseys, refs that make $30 or 40, and goaltenders. I don't cry if we lose, but I do look forward to the games and I do hope we win. And on the ice I do whatever I can to see that it happens, although I do tire easily now!! I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

One of the guys on my team rents ice weekly and has a purely recreational scrimmage. No positions, no clock, no refs. I've skated with him twice and I try all sorts of stuff I'd never do in a 'real' game.

Hey, I know I'm no good. We hit the teen years and a lot of guys passed me by physically. Nobody loved it more than me, though, so it has been enjoyable to play again. When I moved I figured I'd never see hockey again. (There weren't (m)any rinks here fifteen years ago.)

Sounds to me like you'll find the appropriate forum for your game. You'll enjoy it more when you do.
Thanks. I hope I do too. The problem around my area is getting quality ice time. Most leagues don't start their games until 10:00 pm with the arena being at least 30 minutes away. That might not seem like a big deal but I already drive close to 3 hours a day to and from work. I love hockey, but I hate driving more.

Anyway, last nights game went well enough that I might stick it out. We lost 6-5 after being up 4-1 and 5-2, but penalties killed us as they scored 4 PP goals in a row. I had fun and most of the guys didn't seem to carry the weight of the loss too long. By the time most of us had our skates off we were already cracking beers and joking around about how we blew that lead.

I'm still going to keep my ears open for a different, more-suitable league for me, but until then I'm going to have the attitude of 'I don't give an F'. I'll go out and try my hardest but if we lose or I make a lot of mistakes I'm not going to dwell on it.

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i dont know what position you play but you may want to move to defense, and beat them with your years off experience/hockey wisdom, play smarter hockey, its not always about how fast you are, but more about positioning and hockey sense
I was in that position last season and it helped a lot. I think it also made me a more well rounded player, when I went back to the RW I was a lot more defensively responsible and picked up a few shorties.

Don't play harder, play smarter.

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I was in that position last season and it helped a lot. I think it also made me a more well rounded player, when I went back to the RW I was a lot more defensively responsible and picked up a few shorties.

Don't play harder, play smarter.
That's the whole problem right there.

Besides, my defensive game isn't an issue. In fact, some guys on the team have praised my back checking and defensive coverage. It's the fact that I become brain dead when I get the puck. In lesser, slower leagues I've been able to do things, but this league is so quick, there's a lot less time. It's like comparing the ECHL to the NHL.

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