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11-20-2007, 11:23 AM
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Truth be told, I never saw Avery's stick hit Sutton.
It was tough to see. They showed it like 5 times on the FSN feed before we were able to see it at home. It got Sutton in the corner of the eye.


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11-20-2007, 11:23 AM
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You know normally I might agree with you on this one however I seem to remember in the first game between these two teams (don't remember who exactly) Sutton targeting a Ranger's head. Last time around it was Prucha. He's a big guy running across the ice trying to nail someone with an elbow to the head. I've seen Hatcher do the same so he's not the only one. Here again he tried it with Avery and got walloped and deservedly so. Sometimes the best way to defend yourself is to turn the tables. I'm not claiming that Avery is some kind of an angel--I can only imagine what fans and players from other teams think of him--all I'm saying really is Sutton has been asking for it and needs to start aiming at hitting bodies instead of heads. It's only a little thing but a potential eye injury for him offset by two or three potential concussions for us is not good for anybody.
A voice of reason. Excellent post...agree on all points.

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11-20-2007, 11:24 AM
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You don't want Tucker on your team, but you don't have a problem with Simon?

I didn't see any player on either team intentionally strike another in the head with a stick last night and neither did you.
Have to disagree. Avery defintiely went stick high on DP after he was hit by Feds. he didn't have to hit him under the mask with his stick. But, DP also didn't realize he was pushed into him. I think he may have reacted differenlty if he had. Maybe not though, knowing those two.


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11-20-2007, 11:25 AM
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Ahhh. I believe we only saw the high shot from the perch of the events leading up to the incident, so that would make sense. I mean, he got cut SOMEHOW.
You know, I heard the Isles' trainer was a big time fan of old-school WWF. You know, when they'd keep razor blades around to...oh wait,what was I saying? nevermind

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11-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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Avery and Sutton are very different players. When you watch Avery, never do you get the feeling that he actually wants to injure someone; he talks crap, tries to draw penalties, takes minor cheapshots that will irk the hell out of you, but they will not kill or injure you. Whereas when you watch Sutton, you know the guy is actually trying to take your head off, ala Todd Marchant, Claude Lemieux, etc. Players like that are best given the taste of their own medicine before they intentionally end or cripple players' careers (just ask Paul Kariya).


Paul Kariya is just fine. His career was not ended.

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11-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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Have to disagree. Avery defintiely went stick high on DP after he was hit by Feds. he didn't have to hit him under the mask with his stick.
don't be such a homer. Had Avery not been knocked down from behind by one of DP's own players, it never would've happened. You try controlling where your stick goes after getting knocked down from behind.

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11-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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MSG had a camera on DP's left, down in the corner, that was pretty much focused on the incident. Not sure if it was the best angle, but it was well zoomed in and you could clearly make out both players sticks and their location.
I think he is talking about Avery/Sutton incident.

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11-20-2007, 11:29 AM
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I did not get to see many replays. I however never did see the stick hit his face.
They showed it on FSN and was directly hit his eye.They showed the replay a couple times. The 2 extra minutes b/c there was blood. The stick hit his eye by accident, they both got called for penalties.

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11-20-2007, 11:29 AM
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I don't remember which angle it was, but the high-stick was actually before Sutton's elbow/interference on Avery. I know on FSN they were looking afterwards to figure out when it happened until they got the latter shot.
I saw this too. Avery's stick hit Sutton before the two mad contact. It was a legit penalty.

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11-20-2007, 11:29 AM
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don't be such a homer. Had Avery not been knocked down from behind by one of DP's own players, it never would've happened. You try controlling where your stick goes after getting knocked down from behind.
thats what I've been saying, when you get cross checked from the back, you trying to not fall flat on your face, you can't control where your stick goes. it was a total accident.

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11-20-2007, 11:30 AM
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don't be such a homer. Had Avery not been knocked down from behind by one of DP's own players, it never would've happened. You try controlling where your stick goes after getting knocked down from behind.
As I said he was pushed from behind by feds. but, he clearly knew what he was doing with his stick.

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11-20-2007, 11:30 AM
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Have to disagree. Avery defintiely went stick high on DP after he was hit by Feds. he didn't have to hit him under the mask with his stick.
For some reason, I am drawing a blank on this play, so I shouldn't comment. Sounds like the play when Comrie stumbled to his feet after falling on a rush so that he could throw himself into Lundqvist though.

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Just what I was thinking at the time.

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I think he is talking about Avery/Sutton incident.
As was I. This shot only shows the events from the elbow on though.

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11-20-2007, 11:31 AM
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don't be such a homer. Had Avery not been knocked down from behind by one of DP's own players, it never would've happened. You try controlling where your stick goes after getting knocked down from behind.

That was not Avery's fault at all, he did get hit. Rickey just jabbed him b/c it was avery and you would think he did it on purpose and probably what happened from last years elbow incident. DP was the only one who got the penalty and it was correct.

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11-20-2007, 11:55 AM
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go watch the post game interviews on the on demand section on the rangers site http://newyorkrangers.com/

I could not stop laughing during jagr's interview, the way the guy gives interviews, hahaha

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11-20-2007, 11:57 AM
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For some reason, I am drawing a blank on this play, so I shouldn't comment. Sounds like the play when Comrie stumbled to his feet after falling on a rush so that he could throw himself into Lundqvist though.

You are right. Obviously he did it on purpose. Maybe it was payback. Who knows though.
Just what I was thinking at the time.



As was I. This shot only shows the events from the elbow on though.

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These "accidents" sure seem to happen with Avery more than most players.

Also, to the poster who said I like having Simon on my team.....I don't after what he did.

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11-20-2007, 12:38 PM
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I don't make big deal out of that loss. Nolan is just a genius tactician. He trapped this time, while last time he run-n-gun us. Go figure... I guess Renney couldn't. Cause our came plan was crafted for the last game, not this one. Another evidence that players mean very little compare to coaches. Sometimes it is. I hope not all the time, cause we've got better players. 0-3 is depressing, though.
Another good coach we've got for tomorrow. Hopefully goalie is not up to his level.

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11-20-2007, 01:02 PM
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Paul Kariya is just fine. His career was not ended.
I said ended or crippled. And Kariya was never the same after his injury. Instead of having a really great career that we all know he could've had, he became a solid 2nd liner. That is what players like Sutton do, and that is why the last thing I would mind is someone taking him and those like him out of NHL for good, one way or another.

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11-20-2007, 01:15 PM
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Now the Isles will lose 4 of the next 5, you'll see, theyve been doing this for a few years now.

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11-20-2007, 01:55 PM
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Now the Isles will lose 4 of the next 5, you'll see, theyve been doing this for a few years now.
Sorry but this is not your yesterday's Islanders. With Teddy at the helm, it's not going to happen anymore.

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11-20-2007, 01:59 PM
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Have to disagree. Avery defintiely went stick high on DP after he was hit by Feds. he didn't have to hit him under the mask with his stick. But, DP also didn't realize he was pushed into him. I think he may have reacted differenlty if he had. Maybe not though, knowing those two.
Oh and I suppose that when Comrie went shoulder up into Henrik without even attempting to stop that was ok but Avery getting pushed from behind isn't ok?

Yeah. Real nice logic...

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11-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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Now the Isles will lose 4 of the next 5, you'll see, theyve been doing this for a few years now.
haha yep. PRS - Post Ranger Syndrome

About Avery...the stick to Sutton was accidental, but you can't tell me that he didn't know where his stick was going with the DP penalty. I'm actually convinced that play was planned and he was just waiting for the hit from behind. This is what Avery does and what I love about the guy. He always knows where he is and what he can get away with. There was another play later where he was taken down and slid with his legs extended knowing full well he was going to tap DP. The man is an evil genius

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11-20-2007, 02:13 PM
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haha yep. PRS - Post Ranger Syndrome

About Avery...the stick to Sutton was accidental, but you can't tell me that he didn't know where his stick was going with the DP penalty. I'm actually convinced that play was planned and he was just waiting for the hit from behind. This is what Avery does and what I love about the guy. He always knows where he is and what he can get away with. There was another play later where he was taken down and slid with his legs extended knowing full well he was going to tap DP. The man is an evil genius
True. Personally I wish he would cut that **** out, eventually he's gonna get even more calls against him when the refs get tired of him pleading his innocence. 'Youre responsible for your stick' is the rule just for this sort of thing

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11-20-2007, 02:14 PM
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Oh and I suppose that when Comrie went shoulder up into Henrik without even attempting to stop that was ok but Avery getting pushed from behind isn't ok?

Yeah. Real nice logic...
If you read above a few posts, I believe in response to Melrose I said what Comrie did was definitely on purpose.

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If you read above a few posts, I believe in response to Melrose I said what Comrie did was definitely on purpose.
Didn't read that then. Sorry. I heard a bunch of that today in the social community about how what Avery did was ********.


Avery did nothing wrong that game, in the islanders favor....


Which is a really good thing to say for someone like Avery, he just played really tough.

He was in the box the whole game so how could he do anything bad?

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