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04-02-2004, 01:19 AM
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Change to points system!

ALthough OTL have benefited the Oilers, I hate them. The point outcome of a game should never give a bonus point for an Overtime loss. They should award 3 points for a win and one point for a tie. At least a have a system that is balanced and predictable.

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Yeah but then OT would suck because no one will want to give up their precious single point. Yeah the rewards would be great, but losing that one point would suck for the team.

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ALthough OTL have benefited the Oilers, I hate them. The point outcome of a game should never give a bonus point for an Overtime loss. They should award 3 points for a win and one point for a tie. At least a have a system that is balanced and predictable.
That not the way OTL should be looked at. Alot of people make that mistake. The reason why a point for an OTL loss was brought in to begin with was because there was way too many ties in the NHL and once team would reach OT, they would play defensive hockey to a point it was ridiculous. By assuring the teams they wouldn't lose that point, they encouraged them to go for an extra point.

I don't know about you, but in 4-4 OT this year, I've seen some of the best hockey I've seen in years. If I'd have to pick, I'd keep the OTL because I dispise ties.

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ALthough OTL have benefited the Oilers, I hate them. The point outcome of a game should never give a bonus point for an Overtime loss. They should award 3 points for a win and one point for a tie. At least a have a system that is balanced and predictable.
I think the points format is fine. OT is just too short for anything to happen most of the time. I would be all over a 10 minute overtime.

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I think the points format is fine. OT is just too short for anything to happen most of the time. I would be all over a 10 minute overtime.

I like this idea too. I'm also not opposed to the 3 point regulation win, 2 point OT win, 1 point tie/OT loss. That way an OT loss is only worth a third of a regulation win, not half. It would have the additional effect of providing extra incentive to win in regulation, and to win in OT.

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i agree with PineJockey's version that would be really nice, but to be honest even what the NHL employs now is fine as well.

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I've learned to live with the 'loser point' because OT is exciting.
However...
I think a 10 minute, 4 on 4 OT.
No points awarded for a loss.
I can't see any team being able to play 'prevent defense' for 10 min of 4 on 4 after a full 60.
imho - Ya gotta go for the win or you're gonna lose.
win - win

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Crazy Idea #1: No points for ties... ever.

Crazy Idea #2: Baseball rules... play until someone wins.

Crazy Idea#3: Shootout if OT period solves nothing.


None of these are my ideas and I don't necessarily agree with any of them. They would all go along way to ridding the league of ties though, in fact #2 and #3 would eliminate them completely.

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What about making teams slug it out until there is an actual winner. Bring back the real sudden death OT. You would probably have to shorten the season for this (say to 70 games) but then trapping teams would have to go for it or suffer excrutiating minutes logged.

It's by no means perfect, but it does do something to help force a more exciting style of play.

I'm not sure, but how long has there been a limit to the amount of OT played? (ie only one period, 5 minutes, etc...) I wonder if the game began to be more defensive around the same period. Just a thought.



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I love the play until the game ends option. But TV will never go for it and, as we all know, TV money runs sports (although it is certainly way less important for NHL than other sports).

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Crazy Idea #1: No points for ties... ever.

Crazy Idea #2: Baseball rules... play until someone wins.

Crazy Idea#3: Shootout if OT period solves nothing.


None of these are my ideas and I don't necessarily agree with any of them. They would all go along way to ridding the league of ties though, in fact #2 and #3 would eliminate them completely.
I like playing until someone wins, but that would kill teams on back-to-back games, so the league would never go for it.

What about

Crazy Idea#4: Play until someone wins, but make both teams pull their goalies after 5 minutes of 4 on 4 OT, then play until someone wins 5 on 5 with no goalies

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I love the play until the game ends option. But TV will never go for it and, as we all know, TV money runs sports (although it is certainly way less important for NHL than other sports).
They do in football, basketball and baseball...

And honestly, there are no T.V. deals in the States anyways, so who are you going to lose?

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I like playing until someone wins, but that would kill teams on back-to-back games, so the league would never go for it.

What about

Crazy Idea#4: Play until someone wins, but make both teams pull their goalies after 5 minutes of 4 on 4 OT, then play until someone wins 5 on 5 with no goalies
That's something you find in a pee wee hockey tournament. Leave the goalies in net, they are just as important as any other player.

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Crazy Idea #1: No points for ties... ever.

Crazy Idea #2: Baseball rules... play until someone wins.

Crazy Idea#3: Shootout if OT period solves nothing.


None of these are my ideas and I don't necessarily agree with any of them. They would all go along way to ridding the league of ties though, in fact #2 and #3 would eliminate them completely.
I agree up until the shootout nonsense. Play sudden death until their is a winner. Scrap ties and force the teams to finish the games.

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They do in football, basketball and baseball...

And honestly, there are no T.V. deals in the States anyways, so who are you going to lose?
In none of those games to ties happen as often as in hockey, and they are almost always decided quickly.

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04-03-2004, 12:46 PM
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I love the play until the game ends option. But TV will never go for it and, as we all know, TV money runs sports (although it is certainly way less important for NHL than other sports).
I am pretty sure Canadian TV (TSN, Sportsnet, CBC) would benefit emensly from having more live hockey for OT rather than airing re-runs of Davinci's Inquest, World's Strongest Man, or Billiards. I ratings they want - then this would be a perfect fit.

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