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12-13-2007, 02:08 AM
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GDT: Avs @ Preds - 12.13.07(first of home & home games)



(16-13-1)___________ (14-12-2)



Preds lead the season series 1-0




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WESTERN CONFERENCE STANDINGS

TEAMGPWLOTPTSGFGAHOMEAWAYL10
Detroit 30 22 6 2 46 104 67 13-2-0 9-4-2 8-1-1
Vancouver 31 17 11 3 37 83 747-6-2 10-5-1 6-3-1
San Jose 29 16 9 4 36 75 665-6-2 11-3-2 6-2-2
Dallas 3116 11 4 36 90 82 8-5-2 8-6-2 6-4-0
St. Louis 28 16 10 2 34 76 7310-3-1 6-7-1 5-3-2
Minnesota 30 16 12 2 34 73 7810-5-0 6-7-2 5-5-0
Columbus 31 14 11 6 34 81 78 9-4-4 5-7-2 5-3-2
Anaheim 33 15 14 4 34 83 94 9-5-3 6-9-1 5-5-0
Colorado 30 16 13 1 33 92 9112-3-0 4-10-1 5-5-0
Chicago 30 15 13 2 32 91 86 9-8-0 6-5-2 4-5-1
Calgary 31 13 13 5 31 8391 7-7-4 6-6-1 4-4-2
Nashville 28 14 12 2 30 81 84 8-5-1 6-7-1 4-5-1
Edmonton 32 14 16 2 30 86 99 7-9-0 7-7-2 6-3-1
Phoenix 28 13 15 0 26 68 80 5-8-0 8-7-0 5-5-0
Los Angeles 31 12 17 2 26 89 103 8-9-1 4-8-1 4-5-1




PROBABLES AND INJURIES

Netminders: MASON and BUDAJ

Avalanche injuries:
  • Probable - RW Ian Laperriere (knee)
  • Doubtful -
  • Out - C Joe Sakic (groin), D Jordan Leopold (wrist), and D Kurt Sauer (neck)


Predators injuries:
  • Probable -
  • Doubtful - RW Martin Erat (neck)
  • Out - LW Steve Sullivan (back)






need to hear this a lot tonight



TEAM LEADERS

STAT # #
SOG J. Arnott 93 R. Smyth 93
GOALS R. Bonk 10 M. Hejduk 13
ASSISTS M. Erat 16 P. Stastny 26
POINTS M. Erat 25 P. Stastny 39
+/- A. Radulov +8 P. Stastny +13
PIM J. Tootoo 37 S. Parker 51





TEAM COMPARISON

STAT
30 POINTS 33
14 WINS 16
3 SHUTOUTS 0
79 GOALS 89
82 GOALS AGAINST 87
17 PP GOALS 21
22 PP GOALS ALLOWED 22
29 POWERPLAY RANK 20
13 PENALTY KILL RANK 18
0.818 WIN % LEADING AFTER 1st 1.000
1.000 WIN % LEADING AFTER 2nd 0.923
0.200 WIN % TRAILING AFTER 1st 0.333
0.154 WIN % TRAILING AFTER 2nd 0.167





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We need to all head out to the Sommet tonight, no tv for the Nashville area.

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12-13-2007, 03:20 PM
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Avs without Sakic is weird to think about, but watching them last night, they really played well against Columbus - especially in the shots department - and were let down by the goaltending of Jose Theodore. I'm sure we'll see Peter Budaj in net tonight and overall it'll be a challenge, especially if we get into penalty trouble tonight.

Here's hoping for a great game and a Predators victory!!!

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We need to all head out to the Sommet tonight, no tv for the Nashville area.
No FSN South Tonight?

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No FSN South Tonight?
nope, center ice or altitude if you can get it. perhaps some streaming video if you can find it on the net.


mason in net tonight(he has a good record against the avs )
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....36/1002/SPORTS

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nope, center ice or altitude if you can get it. perhaps some streaming video if you can find it on the net.

Lame. Hopefully we can get some good updates going w/o having to read the Avs board.

Awesome GDT by the way!

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The Avs are really slumping right now, and they have been getting beaten badly lately. With Sakic out, we need to take advantage of this home-home series.

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Aye, great GDT. Let's go Preds!

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That was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. The goal was clearly in. It was also clearly in way before the whistle. In fact, the goal was already in the back of the net for about a second before the whistle had even been blown. What a screw-job right there....

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Softest goal of the year for Mason.

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Legwand puts the puck over a wide open net. Here comes the "power" play

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it's over,2-0 Avs.

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Correction 2-1 Avs

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Every single forward we have is ICE COLD offensively. No one can get their stick on a loose puck.

5 for the last 59 power plays

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Did a Nashville player just slash his teammate out of frustration?

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Did a Nashville player just slash his teammate out of frustration?
It looked like Arnott caught Dumont, but I think one of the Av players had roughed him up, and Arnott missed him....

We should have had this game....

Something has to be done about the powerplay.

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after some games you walk away when the horn sounds and simply shake your head in frustration..

a grinding, ugly game.. a game where it looked like we had 11 3rd and 4th line forwards out there.. well of course that isn't far from the truth actually.. a few thoughts while things are still bitter on the tongue..

...the waived off goal was the type of inexplicable thing that helps hockey not make many new fans. intent to blow the whistle?!? are you kidding me? i watched it live, i watched the replay twice, i listened to crisp and to trotz try to explain what they thought, i taped and watched the play again when i got home.. and i still don't know why it didn't count. if i had been the captain or trotz, i'd had to been physically carried off the ice demanding a better explaination before i allowed the puck to be dropped again..

...dumont and arnott are pretty much totally ineffective right now without someone on their line like erat to make things happen. there's a chance dumont was drunk tonight. must have had 5 pucks just roll off his stick trying to stickhandle. arnott simply cann't generate a shot for himself. for him to be effective he has to sit in the slot and let a playmaker make a play and put the puck square on his stick. of course, when they do, right now he couldn't bury it into a soccer net. it's almost hurts to watch fiddler working so hard and being so out of his element having to try to be a playmaker on a scoring line.

...legwand with a bad giveaway in the neutral zone. make no mistake about it. however, he hustled and forced smyth wide and made him take an easy shot from way out beyond the dot.. mason totally unscreened, with plenty of time to prepare for the shot, doesn't close the 5 hole and lets in a prayer.. even smyth was shocked, and looked to the heavens when it went in.. you simply cann't allow this type of goal in a tie game in the third and expect to win... i'm shocked the entire team didn't fold immediately and give up about 5 more quickly... this is the type of totally demoralizing goal that breaks a team and loses a game.

...have no answer on zidlicky's turnover and who he was covering behind the net with laperriere standing all alone in front..

...we play very hard as a team. not always well, but always hard, i'll give us that. the problem is actually pretty simply, we're just not quite talented enough to be consistently good every night. we have five or six true 20 something type goal scoring type forwards. and then we have about six or seven grinders who will score a few goals... a player that is a 20 odd goalscorer is a player that will go several games without scoring and be really streaky. that's why he's a 20 odd goalscorer to begin with.. when you depend on only five or six people to carry you and they're all this level of player, well you're going to have stretches of 3 and 4 and 5 games where none of them are clicking.. and when that happens you're going to tend to lose 4 of 5 or so..

...this is what is happening to us as a team. we'll get a couple of these guys going at the same time and win more than we lose.. we'll have stretches where three of them are all going at the same time and go on short winning streaks.. we'll even have stretches where 4 or 5 of them are playing well at the same time and we look unbeatable... when this happens, most fans begin to think we have "plenty" of offense and expectations rise above where they should be... unfortunately, the downside, is these guys are all 20-25 goal type guys.. and there will be equally long stretches where none or only one of them is putting the puck in the net... and when that happens we'll lose

enough for now. 14-13-2 with three straight back-to-backs coming. losing at home to a team that was 4-10 on the road hurts pretty badly tonight. maybe it'll look better in the morning. probably not, because i'm sure i'll glance at the standings.

oh well, now you need to go out and steal this loss back on the road saturday. get erat back and maybe we get enough to achieve critical mass offensively.

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It looked like Arnott caught Dumont, but I think one of the Av players had roughed him up, and Arnott missed him....

it was fiddler that slashed dumont.. might have been to tell him to wake the hell up and play some hockey

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What happened on the goal that was called off?

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No kidding Dumont lost like 5 pucks trying to stickhandle. I like Dumont but he what I like to call a Coattail offense player. He can ride the coattails of good offensive players and he is good on the right line in the right situation. Last year he was in a perfect situation with all our talent. Same as the year before in Buffalo. However when you are relying on him and Arnott to be our main guys, things dont really look so good. For the love of god poile trade zidlicky+ Klein for an good offensive player.

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All I can say is this game made me mad. I was mad Erat was hurt, mad that we made Budaj look like Roy, mad the officials screwed Bonks goal up, they played the replay the whistle was AFTER it was in the net, I don't know why they reviewed other than to cover their butts. Mad at Mason letting the stupidest of soft goals in. Mad at Arnott he can't finish and Legwand had 2 prime chances too and missed. arrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhh

Thing is you can't fault the effort. We need Sully (who you never hear about so thats bad) or we need to trade and get a goal scorer, we have zero depth on team mainly built on grinders

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303's analysis is spot on (big surprise). This is a team starved for consistent offensive talent. A Healthy Sullivan (which we will likely never see again) plus one more working consistent scorer would make this a terrific team.

For the love of God, Poile, MOVE Zidlicky! His giveaways and lax zone coverage are KILLING this team! And a trade now might wake up the other guys as well.

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And who's going to give up anyone good for Zidlicky? They can see what we see also.

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I know this has come up in the past, I just can remember the arguments.

But what about Zidlicky at forward?

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I know this has come up in the past, I just can remember the arguments.

But what about Zidlicky at forward?
They tried it last year a couple of games..... it's about like watching him play on defense..... all skate and nothing to show for.

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