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12-21-2007, 07:41 PM
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Greatest Trade Deadline Day Ever?

What year was the best? In terms of either long or short term results?

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12-21-2007, 08:09 PM
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From a Canucks fan perspective, best was March 1991 deadline. Canucks acquired Cliff Ronning, Geoff Courtnall, Sergio Momesso, Dana Murzyn and Robert Dirk. Ronning and Courtnall were key players for the next four-plus years. Momesso, Murzyn and Dirk were effective role players.

While mid-90s keys Linden, Bure, Adams, McLean and Lumme were already in the organization prior to 1991, guys like Courtnall and Ronning were key components for the team.

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This was a draft and trade deal instead, but people often refer to a 92 Flyers/Quebec trade as the Eric Lindros trade. It should be known as the Peter Forsberg trade instead, because he won 2 Stanley Cups and turned out to be the better player with a better chance of making the HHOF.

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The most even trade ever was Tony Amonte for Stephane Matteau and Brian Noonan in '94. The Rangers got the cogs that they needed to win and Chicago got their leading scorer for the next while.

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Colorado getting Bourque and Andreychuk from Boston in exchange for Rolston, Pahlsson, Grenier and a first.

Boston loses its icon, Colorado gets a cup one year later.

The players Boston gained are:

Two wash outs - AHL for life Grenier, plus a first round pick that turned into Martin Samuelsson.

Rolston turns into Boston's most versatile forward and then leaves for a greener bank account in Minnesota.

Boston gives up on Pahlsson too soon and swap him for Patrick Traverse.

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12-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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Colorado getting Bourque and Andreychuk from Boston in exchange for Rolston, Pahlsson, Grenier and a first.

Boston loses its icon, Colorado gets a cup one year later.

The players Boston gained are:

Two wash outs - AHL for life Grenier, plus a first round pick that turned into Martin Samuelsson.

Rolston turns into Boston's most versatile forward and then leaves for a greener bank account in Minnesota.

Boston gives up on Pahlsson too soon and swap him for Patrick Traverse.
i dont really care about losing rolston and pahlsson. the trade got the job done in CO

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Dave Lewis and Billy Harris for Butch Goring.

Four consecutive Stanley Cup victories and five consecutive Final appearances immediately followed.

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for Montreal, in recent years at least, it was 2001 when they dumped Linden and Zubrus, along with San Jose's 2nd on Washington for Zednik and Bulis and a first. Montreal made out like bandits in that deal as Zubrus and Linden were complete and total busts in montreal and Savard managed to dump them and pick up 3 assets. Zednik was our best winger for several years while Bulis was always an effective contributer. Perezhogin never ended up contributing much, but I am sure Washington would love to have that deal back. It was the first trade Montreal made that had any reasoning behind it since about 1994.

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It should be known as the Peter Forsberg trade instead, because he won 2 Stanley Cups and turned out to be the better player with a better chance of making the HHOF.
ummmm both statements are questionable at best. When Forsberg was winning a calder trophy Lindros was winning the Hart.

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ummmm both statements are questionable at best. When Forsberg was winning a calder trophy Lindros was winning the Hart.
If one values personal awards over Stanley Cups, then you have a point.

Maybe not on HF, but in the NHL, they play the game to win championships, not to win personal adulation. Forsberg helped lead teams - both in the NHL and international play - to championships.

Lindros didn't.

The very best players do.

Just my opinion, of course.

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ummmm both statements are questionable at best. When Forsberg was winning a calder trophy Lindros was winning the Hart.
When THN listed it's Top 60 post expansion players Forsberg was #24. Lindros did not make the Top 60. Nuff said. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=440125

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ummmm both statements are questionable at best. When Forsberg was winning a calder trophy Lindros was winning the Hart.
And when Forsberg was winning a Hart Trophy, Lindros was destroying opposition with 53 points in 81 games on a team with 28 points.

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for Montreal, in recent years at least, it was 2001 when they dumped Linden and Zubrus, along with San Jose's 2nd on Washington for Zednik and Bulis and a first. Montreal made out like bandits in that deal as Zubrus and Linden were complete and total busts in montreal and Savard managed to dump them and pick up 3 assets. Zednik was our best winger for several years while Bulis was always an effective contributer. Perezhogin never ended up contributing much, but I am sure Washington would love to have that deal back. It was the first trade Montreal made that had any reasoning behind it since about 1994.

There's NO WAY the Caps would take Zed and Bulis back, the wasted first round pick....probably.

The only bad part really was Linden who was just pathetic here, but Zed and Bulis had worn out their welcome in DC. We didn't have much faith in either excelling. Zed had a few good years in Montreal thanks to prime minutes that he rarely got here in DC. We got a ton of mileage out of Zubrus...he was the main cog for the Caps in that deal.

Pretty even trade really since Perezhogin never turned into a real player like Montreal fans were hailing him to be for a while a few years ago.


Additionally.....the first rounder that we got from Vancouver in trading Linden back to them turned into Boyd Gordon.


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for Montreal, in recent years at least, it was 2001 when they dumped Linden and Zubrus, along with San Jose's 2nd on Washington for Zednik and Bulis and a first. Montreal made out like bandits in that deal as Zubrus and Linden were complete and total busts in montreal and Savard managed to dump them and pick up 3 assets. Zednik was our best winger for several years while Bulis was always an effective contributer. Perezhogin never ended up contributing much, but I am sure Washington would love to have that deal back. It was the first trade Montreal made that had any reasoning behind it since about 1994.
No way do we do that trade over again. Bullis had left the team and refused to play (and was thusly suspended) and Zednik was almost as pouty. Linden was a bust in Washington, but we got Boyd Gordon for him, and Zubrus was effective for a few years, longer than Zednik and Bullis were in Montreal anyways.

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If one values personal awards over Stanley Cups, then you have a point.

Maybe not on HF, but in the NHL, they play the game to win championships, not to win personal adulation. Forsberg helped lead teams - both in the NHL and international play - to championships.

Lindros didn't.

The very best players do.

Just my opinion, of course.
Eh, If you gave Lindros a goalie like Roy for any period of his career, he would've won a cup and wouldn't have needed Sakic, Bourque, Blake, Foote, Hejduk, Drury, Tanguay and the like to get it done. Furthermore, it's hard to argue that a guy "lead" his team to a cup when he was at best the 3rd best player on the cup teams and missed 2 rounds for 1 of the cups. Lindros' performance in '97 was every bit as impressive as anything Forsberg ever did in the playoffs.

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No way do we do that trade over again. Bullis had left the team and refused to play (and was thusly suspended) and Zednik was almost as pouty. Linden was a bust in Washington, but we got Boyd Gordon for him, and Zubrus was effective for a few years, longer than Zednik and Bullis were in Montreal anyways.
If Zednik was so unwelcomed in Washington how come you guys traded back for him? Alas one thing can be agreed on. Linden was a scrub for both of us

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And when Forsberg was winning a Hart Trophy, Lindros was destroying opposition with 53 points in 81 games on a team with 28 points.
Those 53 points in 81 games were certainly more valuable than what Forsberg has done last season and this season now arent they.

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Eh, If you gave Lindros a goalie like Roy for any period of his career, he would've won a cup and wouldn't have needed Sakic, Bourque, Blake, Foote, Hejduk, Drury, Tanguay and the like to get it done.
You can deal in hypotheticals.

I'm dealing with reality.

Forsberg was given an opportunity to lead his country, lead his NHL squad. He did.

Your boy, of course, could have got it done with just a goalie and a bunch of stiffs....says you.

Could have....

Wonderful.


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Furthermore, it's hard to argue that a guy "lead" his team to a cup when he was at best the 3rd best player on the cup teams and missed 2 rounds for 1 of the cups.
Dear God, are there still a few lost souls selling that mythology? First, I wrote "helped lead". If you want to argue that point, you are not worth the time. Check Forsberg's numbers for the playoff season ('01) in which he missed two rounds. Do you remember his performance prior to losing his spleen? Some of us do. And "third best player on his team"? Not going to shovel that crap past all of us. Maybe the "born yesterday "crowd will buy it, but not all of us.

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Lindros' performance in '97 was every bit as impressive as anything Forsberg ever did in the playoffs.

All righty then....


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When THN listed it's Top 60 post expansion players Forsberg was #24. Lindros did not make the Top 60. Nuff said. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=440125
Meanwhile the "born in the 90s" noobs on the main board are talking him up as a top 20, top 10, top 5 player of all-time, if healthy.


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