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01-01-2008, 06:06 PM
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who are the top players in this tourny?

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01-01-2008, 06:32 PM
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who are the top players in this tourny?
Players ranked in the ISS top 30 (December update) for the 2009 NHL Entry Draft who are in this tourney:

3. Jared Cowen
4. Brayden Schenn
5. Matt Duchene
6. Landon Ferraro
8. Stefan Elliott
10. Toni Rajala
11. Jimmy Bubnick
13. Carter Ashton
15. Tommi Kivisto
16. Ryan O'Reilly
18. Evander Kane
19. Drew Shore
22. Semen Valuyskiy
23. Joonas Nattinen
24. Ryan Howse
25. Ethan Werek
27. Peter Holland
30. Zack Kassian
Others: Olivier Bellavance-Roy, Erik Haula

Along with top 2010 players:
Teemu Pulkkinen
Taylor Hall
Maxim Kitsyn
Brandon Gormley
Mikael Granlund
Maxime Clermont
John Esposito

And top 2011 player:
Sean Couturier

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01-01-2008, 07:17 PM
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Where's Scott Glennie?

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01-01-2008, 10:36 PM
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So they would have had Tavares and Hedman one and two, but we're left guessing at #7 and #9. Does Scott Glennie show up anywhere on this list?
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Players ranked in the ISS top 30 (December update) for the 2009 NHL Entry Draft who are in this tourney:

3. Jared Cowen
4. Brayden Schenn
5. Matt Duchene
6. Landon Ferraro
8. Stefan Elliott
10. Toni Rajala
11. Jimmy Bubnick
13. Carter Ashton
15. Tommi Kivisto
16. Ryan O'Reilly
18. Evander Kane
19. Drew Shore
22. Semen Valuyskiy
23. Joonas Nattinen
24. Ryan Howse
25. Ethan Werek
27. Peter Holland
30. Zack Kassian
Others: Olivier Bellavance-Roy, Erik Haula

Along with top 2010 players:
Teemu Pulkkinen
Taylor Hall
Maxim Kitsyn
Brandon Gormley
Mikael Granlund
Maxime Clermont
John Esposito

And top 2011 player:
Sean Couturier

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01-01-2008, 10:56 PM
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Glennie is not in their top 50 (though he was No. 47 in their November rankings). Though that is likely to change for their January rankings, I would bet, based on his performance at the U-17s. Same goes for Jeremy Morin, who also wasn't in their top 50.

Don't want to fill in too many more of the blanks so that I don't violate board rules by taking it outside of the realm of the discussion at hand (you'll have to subscribe to ISS to get the complete list), but 1 (Tavares), 2 (Hedman), 7 (Svensson-Paajarvi) and 9 (Schroeder) are all playing at the U20 WJC.


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01-01-2008, 11:43 PM
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Hey,what's that strange noise ????

Oh,its just the OHL pilferring hockey players from U.S.A. Hockey.

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01-01-2008, 11:45 PM
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Glennie is not in their top 50 (though he was No. 47 in their November rankings). Though that is likely to change for their January rankings, I would bet, based on his performance at the U-17s. Same goes for Jeremy Morin, who also wasn't in their top 50.

Don't want to fill in too many more of the blanks so that I don't violate board rules by taking it outside of the realm of the discussion at hand (you'll have to subscribe to ISS to get the complete list), but 1 (Tavares), 2 (Hedman), 7 (Svensson-Paajarvi) and 9 (Schroeder) are all playing at the U20 WJC.
Appreciate that. What does it cost to subscribe to ISS?

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01-02-2008, 11:02 AM
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Germany beats US 4-2 despite being outshot 34-10!
The German goalie was outsanding. He was aslo great in the loss Saturday in Lucan.

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01-02-2008, 11:04 AM
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Appreciate that. What does it cost to subscribe to ISS?
A lot. It's quite costly, unfortunately.

http://www.isshockey.com/products.asp

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01-02-2008, 11:33 AM
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What kinda of tournament is this?

Where is Sweden?

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01-02-2008, 05:46 PM
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Good Question

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What kinda of tournament is this?

Where is Sweden?
Where are the Swedes? I asked this same question at the World Junior A Championships. Why is that Sweden only attends precious few events. If they continue to pick and choose tourneys, I would question whether they should get the same consideration as future hosts of IIHF sanctioned hockey tournaments. Good to see Finland, Czech, Slovakia, and Russia here. In fact, I think that Russia deserves alot of credit for attending the many tournaments and challenge series throughout North America and Europe.

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01-02-2008, 06:46 PM
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What kinda of tournament is this?

Where is Sweden?
Sweden is touring the Junior A league in British Columbia right now if that makes you feel any better?

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01-02-2008, 06:54 PM
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What kinda of tournament is this?

Where is Sweden?

Sweden used to send a team, but they stopped a few years ago. Im not completely sure why they stopped, but I think its because they were doing poorly and wanted to enter an easier tournament. Someone can correct me if Im wrong on that one.


Getting back to the tourney, 1 of tomorrows semi-finals is set. West will face Ontario, after beating Russia 4-1. USA is in the other semi. If Pacific wins or loses by 1 against Quebec, they will face the US, if Quebec wins by 5 or more, they get in. Theres actually a scenario where Finland could still get in, but I forget exactly what it is, and its a real longshot. Looking forward to watching the semis tomorrow.


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01-02-2008, 08:53 PM
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Sweden used to send a team, but they stopped a few years ago. Im not completely sure why they stopped, but I think its because they were doing poorly and wanted to enter an easier tournament. Someone can correct me if Im wrong on that one.


Getting back to the tourney, 1 of tomorrows semi-finals is set. West will face Ontario, after beating Russia 4-1. USA is in the other semi. If Pacific wins or loses by 1 against Quebec, they will face the US, if Quebec wins by more than 1, they get in. Theres actually a scenario where Finland could still get in, but I forget exactly what it is, and its a real longshot. Looking forward to watching the semis tomorrow.

I'm surprised that the West go to the semi's. They looked slow against Germany Saturday and I suspect Ontario will take them and go on to Fridays final.

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01-02-2008, 09:47 PM
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the situation was like this: if Quebec won by 5 or more, they got in. If Pacific won, tied or lost by one, they would get in. If Quebec won by 2,3 or 4, Finland gets in.

EDIT: Hockey Canadas game sheet said FINAL when it was 3-1, now it says 3-3. Sorry for the confusion. Pacific scored 2 goals in the last minute of the 3rd to get the tie, and a ticket to face the US in the semis.

Ontario finished the group stage at 4-0 after a 7-4 win over Slovakia tonight.


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01-02-2008, 10:08 PM
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Quebec won 4-3 in OT. Where does this leave them?

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01-02-2008, 11:46 PM
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Quebec won 4-3 in OT. Where does this leave them?
playing Atlantic for 7th place, because they had to win by 5 to get through. Once Pacific got the game into OT, they were in because they couldnt lose by more than 1.

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01-03-2008, 01:35 AM
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Sweden is touring the Junior A league in British Columbia right now if that makes you feel any better?
Not really.

I just wonder why our kids continue to suck ass, and why they develop so slowly.

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Not really.

I just wonder why our kids continue to suck ass, and why they develop so slowly.
How they managed to win Junior World Cup this summer? Must have been a fluke.

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How they managed to win Junior World Cup this summer? Must have been a fluke.
I wasn´t aware of that

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Nice to see a good German goalie-prospect in Philipp Grubauer:

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.cfm...me_id/1357.htm

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Nice to see a good German goalie-prospect in Philipp Grubauer:

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.cfm...me_id/1357.htm
Grubauer has been very impressive in the German goal, Christoph Ziolkowski has impressed up front. Good speed and skill level, Kuhnhackl will eventually make his way to the NHL IMO.

Great tournament!

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Doesn't Sweden enter the Mac's tournament in Calgary?

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Russian forward Kirill Kabanov has been the breakout star of the tournament. Despite being the second-youngest player in the tourney (only Team Atlantic's Sean Couturier is younger), he is leading in scoring with 11 points in five games (with the Russian's fifth-place game vs. Finland) still going on). He will surely shoot up the 2010 draft boards after this impressive performance.

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Great German victory over Slovakia...

5-1

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.cfm...me_id/1365.htm

Tom Kuhnhackl scored 2 goals

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