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01-03-2008, 09:37 AM
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Isles down for playing Rangers outdoors

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Some of them even knew that they were originally supposed to play in the big outdoor game, against the Rangers at Yankee Stadium. Talk about a home run. Although it is not considered likely, people familiar with the talks about a Midwinter Classic in the Bronx say it still is possible.

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That would be up to the Yankees, who had decided against hosting a hockey game last year on logistical grounds, such as concern for the field. The concept still does not seem at the top of their agenda as the club heads into its final season at the Stadium.

"I think we've got a lot of things up in the air this year," Yankees spokesman Jason Zillo said. "I don't know where that event would stand."

But two people familiar with the proposal said it has not been ruled out. One of them said that the Islanders have had good, substantial talks with the Yankees. An Islanders official was backstage at the game in Buffalo Tuesday, taking notes, just in case.

Would be awesome to have an outdoor Rangers vs. Isles game. Imagine the crowd... One could dream.

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It would be pretty sick.

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Do it at Shea next winter before they tear it down!

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Of course the Islanders would be interested. They long for playing in front of more than 10,000 fans a night!

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I think this would be even bigger than the game in Buffalo. The crowd would be nuts.

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Of course the Isles would love it... whats not to love?
It would be the greatest regular season hockey game ever!

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01-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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As we were discussing in the Ice Bowl thread, what if that game was scheduled for next Monday when it's supposed to be 60 degrees and sunny? Or worse, what if rains? I really think weather in the northeast is just way too unpredictable to make this possible.

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01-03-2008, 10:17 AM
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As we were discussing in the Ice Bowl thread, what if that game was scheduled for next Monday when it's supposed to be 60 degrees and sunny? Or worse, what if rains? I really think weather in the northeast is just way too unpredictable to make this possible.
which is why the NHL had like 3 backups

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01-03-2008, 10:20 AM
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I don't know if Isles-Rangers would work. Beyond Isles/Rangers fans, I'm not sure New Yorkers would be hugely interested. I guess there would be enough Tri-state hockey fans to make it work. But nationally I think it would hold much less appeal. Weather is the other impediment. Much less predictable than Buffalo.

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which is why the NHL had like 3 backups
I don't know anything about it. What was the back-up plan? Just play at HSBC?

What I'm saying is, there's a low chance you need a back-up in Buffalo, but a fairly decent chance you would need one in the Bronx. Is it worth the time and expense to set up the surface after you weigh that chance?

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Personally, as much as I love the thought of Isles/Rags outdoor game, I think you would have to have one team from out of market like Chicago/Detroit or Rangers/Bruins or Stars/Detroit. If you choose a coastal location like NYC or Boston, it would have to be in February when the change of freak warm trends, and the accompanying rain, is at it's lowest.

My bet is on Detroit @ Chicago at Soldier Field as the next one, but what do they do if the Bears make the POs that year?

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Id imagine next one either goes to Canada or western conference teams.

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How about the Mets and Yankees play each other INDOORS on the ice at MSG? I think that would be just as interesting.

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I don't know anything about it. What was the back-up plan? Just play at HSBC?

What I'm saying is, there's a low chance you need a back-up in Buffalo, but a fairly decent chance you would need one in the Bronx. Is it worth the time and expense to set up the surface after you weigh that chance?
ya to play at an arena idk which 1... ya but ur right it would be too hard (unpredictable) have to see if the knicks r playing, or wat do u do wit the 10,000 + ppl coming 2 NYC just for the game and it goes on and on

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I don't know anything about it. What was the back-up plan? Just play at HSBC?

What I'm saying is, there's a low chance you need a back-up in Buffalo, but a fairly decent chance you would need one in the Bronx. Is it worth the time and expense to set up the surface after you weigh that chance?
If I remember correctly, the backup plan was to hold the game the next day, same location. That doesn't really solve the problem of an unexpected warm front though.

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Personally, as much as I love the thought of Isles/Rags outdoor game, I think you would have to have one team from out of market like Chicago/Detroit or Rangers/Bruins or Stars/Detroit. If you choose a coastal location like NYC or Boston, it would have to be in February when the change of freak warm trends, and the accompanying rain, is at it's lowest.

My bet is on Detroit @ Chicago at Soldier Field as the next one, but what do they do if the Bears make the POs that year?
How about Chicago at Detroit, playing at The Big House? UM already played that outdoor game there once, didn't they? Maybe even pull a double dip... Let the college kids play in the afternoon, take a couple hours off to repair the ice, and then have the NHLers play the night cap. That would be pretty sweet.

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Personally while it may have been fun (the real fun was from sitting at home)--the Sabres--Pens games IMO was more than a little overrated. NHL games should be played in optimal conditions. Having snow and sleet falling--seeing it pile up on the ice--, a substandard ice surface and just the idea that the game could ultimately be decided on a sudden change of wind direction doesn't do a lot for me. I'm sure that probably the majority of the 70 some thousand thought it was great at least until Crosby finished it for the visiting team--but sitting down in a cold and windy stadium through a wintry squall for 5-6 hours--the game lasted over 4--is a bit moronic and anyone who came down afterwards with a case of pneumonia only have themselves to blame.

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I think a Ranger/Islander game at Yankee stadium would be a HUGE success. I know I would get tix in a heartbeat even with the potential weather problems that could occurr.

I also think ratings would be good, but what do I know, I'm a hockey fan...

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The value of the outdoor game is less then that for Olympic games in my book.

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How about Chicago at Detroit, playing at The Big House? UM already played that outdoor game there once, didn't they? Maybe even pull a double dip... Let the college kids play in the afternoon, take a couple hours off to repair the ice, and then have the NHLers play the night cap. That would be pretty sweet.
They actually played at the old Mich. State stadium that was being torn down, but I like your idea.

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The value of the outdoor game is less then that for Olympic games in my book.
How are you measuring value?

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They actually played at the old Mich. State stadium that was being torn down, but I like your idea.
Ah, thanks for the correction.

I really would love to see a college-pro doubleheader. Talk about putting hockey front and center! The college teams offer an excellent product, and it would just be awesome to have a day of hockey, with two games getting the spotlight on a major network. It would also be an awesome experience, getting smashed before the college game, sobering up a bit between games, and then doing it all over again for the capper.

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Of course the Islanders would be interested. They long for playing in front of more than 10,000 fans a night!
At least its 10,000 FANS not 15,000 SUITS

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In terms of weather conditions, an outdoor game between Toronto and Montreal would probably be better suited.

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if we were to take part in only 1 outdoor game i'd kinda rather we do it against a rival farther away.. i heard the idea of NYR vs BOS in Fenway/Yankees Stadium, that soudns awesome..

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How are you measuring value?
By its definition. Value is a benefit received in return for effort, monetary spending, exchange of some sort, etc. It is customary to measure value in units of initial contribution (dollars and cents, hours of work or rest, gallons, bushels, etc.), but not always so.
I see no or very little benefit in outdoor game due to the fact that its outcome is no different then any indoor game. I don't give a flying crap about game popularity, nor do I care about Fishsticks and necessity to beat them soundly. All I care is two points the Rangers getting (or not) on the gameday.


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I'd really only be interested in it if it were going to be like the Heritage Classic and have an old-timers game beforehand.

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