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01-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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What would it take to get J.P. Dumont?

Hey guys, one of the names that keeps coming up as a possible trade deadline target for the Penguins is J.P. Dumont. If Nashville is out of the playoff race and willing to trade what do you think it would take to get him? Would it take a prospect and draft pick or are they looking for current nhl players? Thanks and good luck to the Preds the rest of the way!!

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I would guess a 2nd round pick and a medium ranged prospect. Maybe Two second round picks .....

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Thanks! And do you think Shero's connection to the Predators helps the chance of a trade?

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I would guess a 2nd round pick and a medium ranged prospect. Maybe Two second round picks .....
With the way JP is playing, I'd want more than a medium range prospect. He's on pace for a career year...

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Can't the Preds just resign JP or would that prove to be too costly???

Just a thought.

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01-06-2008, 06:14 PM
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With the way JP is playing, I'd want more than a medium range prospect. He's on pace for a career year...
I would as well. The trade market fluctuates so much year-to-year, its hard to gauge a player's value. I think what I posted would be the low-end expectations of a Dumont trade.

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An above average prospect eh? Would you guys be interested in, say, Mason Raymond from Vancouver?

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Most people forget the Problem with trading with the Predators is thw cap min has to be met. Trading JP for a pick/or prospect could put the Preds under the cap min.

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Good call on the cap minimum. How much does Dumont make?

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With the way JP is playing, I'd want more than a medium range prospect. He's on pace for a career year...
Sounds expensive! How about an 8th round pick?

Nashville:

JP Dumount

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8th round pick
A new rug for Shero's office.



Take it or leaveh it.

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01-06-2008, 09:28 PM
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Would you guys do:

To NASH: Wishart, Rissmiller
To SJ: JP Dumont

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Would you guys do:

To NASH: Wishart, Rissmiller
To SJ: JP Dumont

No Way Jose. ( pun intended) The problem is this doesn't help us at all. Wishart is a good prospect but as you may of heard the last thing we need is another young D prospect. It's hard enough trying to find enough ice time for all the D men we have now and we have Franson and Blum who will be coming up here in the near future. Rissmiller seems to have settled nicely into a role in the NHL as a nice big strong checking winger but we have enough checking wingers. Thus this trade doesn't do really anything for us.

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To Nashville: Alexander Nikulin C (playing for the Binghamton Senators AHL
GP 31 G 5 A 16 Pts 21 +/- 2) & Kirill Lyamin D (plays in Russian Super league - 2nd round draft choice).

To Ottawa: JP Dumont RW

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To Nashville: Alexander Nikulin C (playing for the Binghamton Senators AHL
GP 31 G 5 A 16 Pts 21 +/- 2) & Kirill Lyamin D (plays in Russian Super league - 2nd round draft choice).

To Ottawa: JP Dumont RW

If I''m David Poile and I'm gonna trade J.P. It's gonna be at the deadline. Assuming teams will be fighting for services of players for a playoff run liek the last two years and the teams interested in JP are likely going to be the better teams in the league. Considering what teams have paid for players the last two years if I'm Poile the conversation starts and stops here.

To top of league team: JP Dumont


To Predators: Late First round pick

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The only way Dumont will be traded is if either:

1 - We upgrade at that position (probably a package of Dumont and more)

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2 - We trade him at the deadline, assuming we are out of the race by then.

Here is the problem with number 2. With the parity the way it is in the NHL, alot more teams are still in it by the deadline. I think we will still be "in it" by the deadline (not saying we will in fact make the playoffs) and thus I have a hard time seeing Poile reducing his roster and throwing in the towel at point, even if we risk losing Dumont for nothing. The trading deadline is going to continue to become less of a spectacle like it has in the past. I think the days of huge deadline days are gone (well, at least not like they used to be).

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I would only deal Dumont if we are about 8-10 points out of a playoff spot come deadline time.

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With the earlier deadline, I don't think that's far enough out.

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With the earlier deadline, I don't think that's far enough out.
When is the deadline this year? I was assuming it was around March.

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what kind of money do you think he'll get next year?

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01-09-2008, 04:43 AM
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If Jean-Pierre Dumont is going to be traded by the deadline, keep a close eye on Montreal as I could see them making a huge pitch for this player, as a Habs fan I could see Gainey throwing at least a 1st rounder to land him, knowing he'd probably re-sign here.

Gotta go back in time a bit, summer 2006 that is, when against all previous expectations, Jean-Pierre Dumont hit the open market as a UFA. However, a few weeks earlier, Gainey had signed Michael Ryder to a 1 yr 2.5M contract (not too sure about the exact amount) and also picked up Mike Johnson (1 yr left, 2M) for a fourth rounder from Phoenix. There wasn't enough cap space left to make an offer, but there were LOTS, and I mean LOTS of rumours suggesting Montreal were very interested.

Here's an article made by Radio-Canada (french) dated from August 15th, 2006 :
http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/ho....shtml?ref=rss

Basically it says that Dumont wanted to continue his career in Montreal but he didn't received an offer from Gainey, but he wasn't too disappointed. The author reminds how Dumont would love to play here. There are 3 important quotes from Dumont, I'll translate them roughly :

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Habs talked to my agent, but they didn't offer anything yet. I think if they were going to propose something, they would already have done it.
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I understand their decision, because the Habs doesn't have a lot of cap margin. Habs don't have a spot for a new player. It's the new reality of NHL Hockey under the cap.
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My agent received 5-6 serious offers. Out of them, one is a clear front-runner. They really want me and they call my agent very often.
The article also says this "fornt-runner team" said they're looking to make a trade (shed salary) in order to make room for Dumont...

Few weeks later Dumont signed a 2 year deal with Nashville...

... (suspense) ...

You heard it here first!


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