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Atd#8 MINOR LEAGUE DRAFT

Atd#8 MINOR LEAGUE DRAFT

Draft is done!

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards and a coach, with 3 additional picks to be used for whatever position(s) you want.

Trading is allowed. Trades must be equal in numbers, 2 picks for 2 picks, 1 player and a pick for 2 picks, and so on. Really lopsided trades can be vetoed. Rounds 15/16 through 23/24 will be double picks per round.

The time limit is 4 hours. If you miss a time window don't panic, just make up the pick ASAP. You can PM your preferred pick to me beforehand and be assured I won't ever be drafting your top pick for whatever round because my pre-draft prospect list is so darn long I can do without (even if with a grimace). Newly added procedure: If the HfBoards goes down then email your pick (or shortlist) to woodstein10@hotmail.com and the picks will be sorted out afterwards.

Suggestion: POST A REASON OR STATISTIC OR DESCRIPTION WITH YOUR PICK to aid discussion and let us know a bit about the pick, as many may not be household names, especially from other eras.

You must PM the next GM after your selection. And please post a notice to that effect on the draft thread to ensure a smooth flow to the draft.

Any player from any league or era are eligible as long as they were not drafted in the ATD#8 click here and use control-f to check. As soon as a pick is posted, the next team's clock will begin even if an ineligible player is chosen: the pick will simply be made up as soon as possible.

Player selection should be based on what they have done (the 'next best' draft, so to speak, the greatest all-time careers not honored by being picked in the main atd#8 draft), and not what they will do in the future, though it's understood that as a minor league team there is a bit of projection involved, especially with players whose careers were cut short by injury.

Absolutely no dropping of players: once drafted they are drafted, but players could be traded if team needs change. At the end of the draft a team could pick up an undrafted UFA and simply discard a draft pick.

The number of teams that make the playoffs will depend on the number that qualify for the postseason. To qualify, a team must meet this all-time draft roster condition: Have on the team at least ONE player from each of the following time periods:

1939 or earlier
1940-1965
1966-1979
1980-1989
1990-1999
in 2008 (ANY active/nonretired player with 200-plus games pro experience regardless of when he began his career)

The very first game ever played in a top pro league defines which time period for the required condition (so, an eighties player whose NHL or SEL rookie season started in 1979 would meet the 1966-79 time period requirement).

On another front, there will be an all-star team of 1LW, 1RW, 1C, 2D, 1G voted on after the regular season.

Round #1

1 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Bert Corbeau (d)
2 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Mike Karakas (g)
3 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Barry Pederson (c)
4 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers[B] - Gord Roberts (lw)
5 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Gerry Mcneil (g)
6 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Clint Smith (lw)
7 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Barney Stanley (rw)
8 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Tommy Smith (c)
9 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Russell Bowie (c)
10 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Wilf Cude (g)
11 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Paddy Moran (g)
12 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Pierre Mondou (c)
13 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Bill Goldsworthy (rw)
14 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Murray Balfour (rw)

Round #2

15 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - George Owen (d)
16 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Dan Awrey (d)
17 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Pavol Demitra (rw)
18 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Hobey Baker (d)
19 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Bob Murray (d)
T20 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Harry Mummery (d)
T21 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Blair Russel (rw)
22 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Ernie Russell (c)
23 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Jack Laviolette (d)
24 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Henrik Zetterberg (lw)
25 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Pavel Datsyuk (c)
26 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Herb Cain (lw)
27 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Brian Rafalski (d)
28 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Paul Ronty (c)

Round #3

29 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Corb Denneny (RW)
30 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Dave Langevin (d)
31 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Pekka Rautakallio (d)
32 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers[B] - Harry Hyland (rw)
33 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Harry Trihey (c)
34 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Doug Bodger (d)
35 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Frantisek Tikal (d)
T36 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Moose Goheen (d)
T37 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Anton Stastny (lw)
38 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Stephane Richer (lw)
39 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Boris Mayorov (lw)
40 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Felix Potvin (g)
41 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Doug Barkley (d)
42 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Bronco Horvath (c)

Round #4

43 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Dave Balon (lw)
44 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Saku Koivu (c)
45 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Craig Janney (c)
46 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Rick Kehoe (rw)
47 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Slava Kozlov (lw)
48 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Nikolai Khabibulin (g)
49 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - John Hutton (g)
50 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Mattias Ohlund (d)
51 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Andy Hebenton (rw)
52 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Garry Galley (d)
53 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Brad Maxwell (d)
54 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Yevgeny Paladiev (d)
55 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Dave Christian (rw)
56 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Vic Stasiuk (lw)


Round #5

57 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Dick Redmond (d)
58 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Scott Gomez (c)
59 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Bengt-Ake Gustafsson (c)
60 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Jim Henry (g)
61 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Metro Prystai (c)
62 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Ed Sandford (lw)
63 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Jason Arnott (c)
64 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Rick Meagher (c)
65 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Paul MacLean (rw)
66 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Darryl Sydor (d)
67 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Jeff Brown (d)
68 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Alex Tanguay (lw)
69 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - George Hay (lw)
70 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers Randy Gregg (d)

Round #6

71 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Milan Hejduk (rw)
72 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires Johnny Peirson (rw)
73 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Wade Redden (d)
74 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Jeff Beukeboom (d)
75 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Pierre Larouche (c)
76 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Real Cloutier (lw)
77 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Brenden Morrow (lw)
78 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Art Duncan (d)
79 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Mike Rogers (c)
80 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Bruce Driver (d)
81 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Andre Lacroix (c)
82 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Dion Phaneuf (d)
83 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Elwyn Romnes (c)
84 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Johnny Mowers (g)

Round #7

85 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Dick Irvin (c)
86 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Ed Olczyk (c)
87 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Marian Stastny (rw)
88 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Cully Dahlstrom (c)
89 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Adam Deadmarsh (rw)
90 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Dmitri Yushkevich (d)
91 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Smokey Harris (lw)
92 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Ulf Dahlen (rw)
93 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Johnny Wilson (lw)
94 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Colin White (d)
95 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Billy Taylor (c)
96 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Todd Bertuzzi (lw)
97 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Mike Ridley (c)
98 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Sean Burke (g)

Round #8

99 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Kjell Samuelsson (d)
100 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Gordie Roberts (d)
101 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Dana Murzyn (d)
102 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Albert Leduc (d)
103 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Alex Kovalev (rw)
104 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Fredrik Olausson (d)
105 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Cliff Ronning (c)
106 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Larry Patey (c)
107 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Normie Himes (c)
108 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Hy Buller (d)
109 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Al Arbour (d)
110 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Richard Brodeur (g)
111 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Mike O'Connell (d)
112 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Don Lever (lw)

Round #9

113 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Joe Jerwa (d)
114 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Robbie Ftorek (c)
115 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Ron Stewart (c)
116 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Uwe Krupp (d)
117 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Fred Scanlan (f)
118 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Gilles Meloche (g)
119 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Cesare Maniago (g)
120 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - John Van Boxmeer (d)
121 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Steve Payne (lw)
122 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Jason Allison (c)
123 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Harry Oliver (rw)
124 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Petr Nedved (lw)
125 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Al MacAdam (rw)
126 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Steve Chiasson (d)

Round #10

127 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Tony Granato (lw)
128 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Mike Babcock (coach)
129 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Gord Fraser (d)
130 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Alex Shibicky (lw)
131 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Rick Nash (lw)
132 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Reggie Fleming (lw)
133 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Paul Shmyr (d)
134 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Bob Davidson (lw)
135 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Rick Green (d)
136 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Arthur Farrell (f)
137 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Murray Murdoch (lw)
138 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Henrik Sedin (c)
139 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Craig Conroy (c)
140 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Blaine Stoughton (rw)

Round #11

141 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Mush March (rw)
142 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Tommy Williams (rw)
143 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Daniel Sedin (lw)
144 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Bob Gracie (c)
145 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Randy Carlyle (coach)
146 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Syl Apps Jr (c)
147 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Doug Brown (rw)
148 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Dave Gagne (c)
149 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Don Beaupre (g)
150 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Keith Acton (c)
151 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Bill Thoms (c)
152 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Georges Mantha (lw)
153 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Guy Chouinard (c)
154 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Eric Staal (c)

Round #12

155 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Don Cherry (coach)
156 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Kelly Hrudey (g)
157 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Leroy Goldsworthy (rw)
158 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Louis Berlinquette (lw)
159 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Lee Fogolin Jr (d)
160 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Kelly Kisio (c)
161 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Darryl Sutter (coach)
162 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Thomas Gradin (c)
163 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Rusty Crawford (f)
164 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners Dave Lewis (d)
165 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Martin Straka (lw)
166 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Brian Kilrea (coach)
167 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Keith Carney (d)
168 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Mario Marois (d)

Starting at the end of round 12 the clock was reduced to 4 hours.
(Don't worry, if you miss your time window simply make up the pick ASAP as the clock marches on to quicken the pace.
Or you can PM your shortlist to me or another g.m. And as you await your window you could do research, research, research! build those lists.)

Round #13

169 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Greg Adams (lw)
170 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Jon Casey (g)
171 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Bob Plager (d)
172 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Bill Ezinicki (rw)
173 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Claude Larose (rw)
174 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Michael Renberg (rw)
175 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Lorne Carr (rw)
176 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Stu Barnes (f)
177 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Red Sullivan (c)
178 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Patrik Sundstrom (c)
179 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Anders Kallur (rw)
180 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Orest Kindrachuk (c)
181 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Jan Erixon (lw)
182 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Dennis Hextall (lw)

Round #14

183 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Laurie Boschman (c)
184 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Nick Libett (lw)
185 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Murray Patrick (d)
186 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Bert Marshall (d)
187 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Lou Fontinato (d)
188 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Doug Young (d)
189 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Dave Maloney (d)
190 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - John Sorrell (lw)
191 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Darius Kasparaitis (d)
192 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners Mel Hill (rw)
193 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Morris Lukowich (lw)
194 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Reggie Lemelin (g)
195 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Brian Gionta (rw)
196 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Charlie Burns (c)

Rounds #15/16

197 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Ken Wregget (g)
198 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Rudy Pilous (coach)
199 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Steve Konowalchuk (lw)
200 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Mike Grier (rw)
201 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Rich Sutter (rw)
202 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Darryl Sutter (lw)
203 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Andrei Markov (g)
204 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Bunny Laroque (g)
205 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Bob Berry (lw)
206 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Ray Sheppard (rw)
207 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Frank Boucher (coach)
208 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Kimmo Timonen (d)
209 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Bob Murdoch (d)
210 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Evgeni Nabokov (g)
211 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Bob Turner (d)
212 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Mark Osborne (lw)
213 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Brendan Witt (d)
214 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Yevgeny Babich (rw)
215 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Marc Crawford (coach)
216 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Kelly Miller (lw)
217 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Bruce MacGregor (c)
218 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Ethan Moreau (lw)
219 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Al MacNeil (coach)
220 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Anton Volchenkov (d)
221 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Mike Krushelnyski (c)
222 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Doug Crossman (d)
223 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Kelly Buchberger (rw)
224 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - John Wensink (lw)

Rounds #17/18

225 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Jay Bouwmeester (d)
226 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Ray Getliffe (c)
227 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Dan Boyle (d)
228 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Jorgen Pettersson (lw)
229 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Arturs Irbe (g)
230 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Mike Komisarek (g)
231 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Frank Patrick (coach)
232 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Robyn Regehr (d)
233 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Jimmy Peters (rw)
234 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Albert Langlois (d)
235 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Vasili Pervukhin (d)
236 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Zinetula Bilyaletdinov (d)
237 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Jose Theodore (g)
238 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Doug Lidster (d)
239 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Richard Matvichuk (d)
240 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Butch Keeling (lw)
241 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Daniel Bouchard (g)
242 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Cully Wilson (rw)
243 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Phat Wilson (d)
244 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Jack Ruttan (d)
245 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Nikolai Drozdetsky (rw)
246 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Howard McNamara (d)
247 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Steve Rucchin (c)
248 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Chris Phillips (d)
249 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Jeff Halpern (c)
250 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Eric Weinrich (d)
251 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Risto Siltanen (d)
252 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Dave Lowry (lw)

Rounds #19/20

253 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Rob Niedermayer (c)
254 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Keith Crowder (rw)
255 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Todd Marchant (c)
256 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Lou Nanne (d)
257 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Dallas Drake (rw)
258 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Don Sweeney (d)
259 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Udo Kiessling (d)
260 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Eddie Oatman (rw)
261 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Joe Murphy (c)
262 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Guy Herbert (g)
263 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Murph Chamberlain (c)
264 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Dave Trottier (lw)
265 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Bob MacMillan (rw)
266 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Oldrich Machac (d)
267 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Bill Flett (rw)
268 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Aaron Broten (c)
269 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Billy Reay (c)
270 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Venjamin Alexandrov (lw)
271 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Jiri Hrdina (c)
272 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Mark Hunter (rw)
273 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Henrik Lundqvist (g)
274 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Shawn Burr (lw)
275 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Cal Gardner (c)
276 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Hank Goldup (lw)
277 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Pentti Lund (rw)
278 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Pete Stemkowski (c)
279 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - George Gee (c)
280 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Garth Butcher (d)

Rounds #21/22

281 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Mike Palmateer (g)
282 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Dwight McMillan (ass. coach)
283 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Gilles Villemure (g)
284 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Harold Snepsts (d)
285 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Danny Grant (lw)
286 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Dale Rolfe (d)
287 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Bobby Gould (rw)
288 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Darren Puppa (g)
289 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Roman Cechmanek (g)
290 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Joe Carveth (rw)
291 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Viktor Tikhonov (coach)
292 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Andrei Khomutov (w)
293 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Eric Vail (lw)
294 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Joey Kocur (rw)
295 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Bobby Rowe (d)
296 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Terry Ruskowski (c)
297 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Scott Hannan (d)
298 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Rich Preston (rw)
299 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Sergei Brylin (lw)
300 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Jay Wells (d)
301 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Peter Laviolette (coach)
302 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Marty Walsh (c)
303 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Bob Errey (lw)
304 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Bengt-Ake Gustaffsson (ass. coach)
305 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Mark Johnson (f)
306 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Bill Nyrop (d)
307 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Doug Jarrett (d)
308 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Wally Hergesheimer (rw)

Rounds #23/24

309 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Jim Mckenny (d)
310 Evil Speaker - Boston Cubs - Marty Turco (g)
311 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Vic Heyliger (coach)
312 cottonking & Nalyd Psycho - Edina Hornets - Willard Ikola (ass. coach)
313 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Frank McCool (g)
314 Transplanted Caper & vancityluongo - Vancouver Giants - Bill Juzda (d)
315 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Nick Fotiu (lw)
316 MXD & Jungosi - Cincinnati Stingers - Garth Boesch (d)
317 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Warren Strelow (goal coach)
318 agent dale cooper - Phoenix Roadrunners - Tony Hand (f)
319 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Emile Francis (ass. coach)
320 6hole & Sakicfan - Moose Jaw Minutemen - Joe Benoit (rw)
321 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Fred Cook (coach)
322 BM67 - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Gary Smith (g)
323 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Rick Ley (d)
324 shawnmullin & papershoes - Nelson Leafs - Brent Sutter (ass. coach)
325 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Ron Wilson (ass. coach)
326 VanIslander - McGill Redmen - Alex Smith (d)
327 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Roman Hamrlik (d)
328 seventieslord - Dysart Fighting Kugels - Dave Hunter (lw)
329 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Stephane Yelle (c)
330 pitseleh & The_Hockey_Guy18 - New York Americans - Bert McCaffrey (d)
331 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Marc Habscheid (coach)
332 chaosrevolver & NateTheGreat- Belleville Bulls - Willy Lindstrom (rw)
333 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Cecil Blanchford (f)
334 Spitfire11 - Windsor Spitfires - Shawn Chambers (d)
335 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Sylvain Cote (d)
336 raleh & God Bless Canada - Moose Jaw Millers - Jeff Friesen (lw)


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POST A REASON OR STATISTIC OR DESCRIPTION WITH YOUR PICK to aid discussion and let us know a bit about the pick, as many may not be household names, especially from other eras.
Nothing quite like being in the same time-zone as VI and getting first crack at commenting. I like this idea a lot. If you've done some research, you'll probably have at least one player whom a lot of folks haven't heard of. Don't make me look your player up ... if it's someone who hasn't been active in the last decade or two, post a paragraph about who he is and why he's the key to your team's victory.
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Player selection should be based on what they have done (the 'next best' draft, so to speak, the greatest all-time careers not honored by being picked in the main atd#8 draft), and not what they will do in the future, though it's understood that as a minor league team there is a bit of projection involved, especially with players whose careers were cut short by injury.
Never quite understood this phrase, but I've always taken it to mean that players with careers cut short by injury get a few bonus points and that players LONG ago who quit "early" because of cultural / family reasons would get a few bonus points too, but that currently active players don't get credit for what they're going to do in the next five years. Yes?
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2000 or later (note: nonretired/active players must have at least a minimum of 200 professional hockey league games played: Don't Toews us bro!)
I like this, and I'd caution new folks to stay away from ANYONE who hasn't at least reached the "prime" of his career. We're getting pretty deep in the talent pool, so I'll remind everyone to avoid mentioning ANY undrafted player by name.
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Good work, VI.

Best of luck to everyone involved ... suggest that as long as folks are logged on, we might do what we did with ATD8 and just start picking now, but not run the clock for another week.

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... players with careers cut short by injury get a few bonus points and that players LONG ago who quit "early" because of cultural / family reasons would get a few bonus points too, but that currently active players don't get credit for what they're going to do in the next five years. Yes?
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... as long as folks are logged on, we might do what we did with ATD8 and just start picking now, but not run the clock for another week.
Sure. But that's up to Evil Speaker.

(though spending your free time the next day or two to send BM67 your VOTE on the main draft championship finals series is a better idea)

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... hope that wasn't directed to me ... I sent mine in a couple days ago.
Great, only 13 of us have voted so far (according to bm67).

All those who have yet to vote, do so asap by pm'ing the winner of the Milt Dunnell Championship Final series to BM67.

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Last minor league draft, Murphy and I had the first pick. This draft, raleh and I pick last. Call me crazy, but I like this draft position a lot more. Last draft, it was picking the best of a good lot. Joe Watson was a find (thank Murph for that one), but he didn't stand out over anyone else. I'm sure the guys we want will still be available at 14 and 15.

A reminder to all GMs to PM your picks if you aren't going to be able to make a selection. Especially those at the beginning or the end of a round. The ability to complete the draft in a timely fashion rests squarely on those who start and anchor each round.

A suggestion: put more of an emphasis on the early years. There's requisites for six time periods. Four of them are post-expansion. I think the beauty of the minor league draft is finding the really good, but overlooked players from before expansion. Anyone can name lots of guys who played post-expansion. But finding the defensive stalward who played in the 1950s and 60s, before the Selke, is the true mark of someone who deserves support. That's one of the reasons why I thought pappy had the best team in the last minor league draft.

Finding a worthy player with 200-plus games pro experience who started in 2000 is going to be hard, too.

If anything, there should be a requisite for a player who played pre-1927 (when the west coast leagues were every bit as good as the NHA/NHL), 1927-1945, 1945-1967, 1967-1979, and then 1979-present.

If we're going to keep the top-heavy post-expansion format, then allow GMs to qualify which era their player fits in. A guy who starts in 1991, but is still active, should be able to qualify as a 2000-era guy.

Good luck to all GMs, and a big welcome to the newbies.

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A reminder to all GMs to PM your picks if you aren't going to be able to make a selection. Especially those at the beginning or the end of a round. The ability to complete the draft in a timely fashion rests squarely on those who start and anchor each round.
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There's requisites for six time periods. Four of them are post-expansion. I think the beauty of the minor league draft is finding the really good, but overlooked players from before expansion.
Choose a third liner from the original Six era or a team's top scorer from the postexpansion era? One team can have its 18 skaters and starting netminder from pre-expansion eras and meet time period requirements by bench and backup players. Another team can be more modern era with marginal positions filled by pre-modern players. And hopefully many teams will be balanced not biased, reflect the best of all time, from 32-team, 28-team, 12-team and 6-team NHL as well from other leagues in North America and in Europe. Every team should have at least one European player who never played in North America, but it isn't a requirement. perhaps it should be? Overall: Let's hope we get more balanced, less slanted toward any era, rosters this time out.

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The window does seem pretty narrow, so... let's make it:

ANY active/nonretired player with 200-plus games pro experience regardless of when he began his career.

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Good point.


Choose a third liner from the original Six era or a team's top scorer from the postexpansion era? One team can have its 18 skaters and starting netminder from pre-expansion eras and meet time period requirements by bench and backup players. Another team can be more modern era with marginal positions filled by pre-modern players. And hopefully many teams will be balanced not biased, reflect the best of all time, from 32-team, 28-team, 12-team and 6-team NHL as well from other leagues in North America and in Europe. Every team should have at least one European player who never played in North America, but it isn't a requirement. perhaps it should be? Overall: Let's hope we get more balanced, less slanted toward any era, rosters this time out.


The window does seem pretty narrow, so... let's make it:

ANY active/nonretired player with 200-plus games pro experience regardless of when he began his career.
That last idea is even worse. It punishes players who played at a really high level in the game's early years, when teams played 20-45 games per season. It also punishes guys who kept their amateur status during the game's early years. I thought it was great that doctordark picked Scotty Davidson in the main draft. Under your eligibility, Davidson wouldn't be eligible.

If you don't include the playoffs in the 200-game criteria, then arguably the best defenceman available isn't eligible.

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Sure. But that's up to Evil Speaker.

(though spending your free time the next day or two to send BM67 your VOTE on the main draft championship finals series is a better idea)
In wont start the MLD until the ATD 8 champion has been crowned

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That last idea is even worse. It punishes players who played at a really high level in the game's early years, when teams played 20-45 games per season. It also punishes guys who kept their amateur status during the game's early years. I thought it was great that doctordark picked Scotty Davidson in the main draft. Under your eligibility, Davidson wouldn't be eligible.

If you don't include the playoffs in the 200-game criteria, then arguably the best defenceman available isn't eligible.
Reread his post. ACTIVE players must have 200 games played (so that bro doesn't try to Toews us). Unless there is evidence that Dickie Boon is planning on making a comeback (first to life, then to the NHL), then he's still eligible as a pre-Iron Age player. You can still pick those players, they just don't count towards the requirement to have a post-2000 player.

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A suggestion: put more of an emphasis on the early years. There's requisites for six time periods. Four of them are post-expansion. I think the beauty of the minor league draft is finding the really good, but overlooked players from before expansion. Anyone can name lots of guys who played post-expansion. But finding the defensive stalward who played in the 1950s and 60s, before the Selke, is the true mark of someone who deserves support. That's one of the reasons why I thought pappy had the best team in the last minor league draft.
... Me and EB had the defensive stalwart of the late '20/ early '30 and got absolutely no love for it!

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I am just short of disgusted to see a team made up entirely of old players, just as I am to see a team made up almost exclusively of eighties and nineties players.

This is an all-time draft.

The time requirements was to help make the draft more ALL time, and that means having ONE, one active/nonretired player as a minimum to reflect the contemporary era, just as a team must have at least ONE from the thirties or before. That leaves a lot of latitude inbetween. And since there are three extra picks for a grand total of 24 then meeting time requirements needed be a concern for the core of one's team.

Personally I'd like to see two or three players from every era be a requirement, but ONE certainly is doable, in fact is easy as pie over the course of a 24 round draft.


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Reread his post. ACTIVE players must have 200 games played (so that bro doesn't try to Toews us). Unless there is evidence that Dickie Boon is planning on making a comeback (first to life, then to the NHL), then he's still eligible as a pre-Iron Age player. You can still pick those players, they just don't count towards the requirement to have a post-2000 player.
Yeah, the minimum 200 career pro games requirement is only for the ONE active/nonretired player of the contemporary (2007-08) era. Don't Toews us bro'.

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Yeah, the minimum 200 career pro games requirement is only for the ONE active/nonretired player of the contemporary (2007-08) era. Don't Toews us bro'.
I got it now. Everything's cool. I overreated because I was worried that I might not get the guy I want.

But for clarification's sake, does 200 pro games mean 200 NHL games? Does AHL count? How about European pro leagues? And do playoff games count? You'll never see me pick Toews or Kane or Paul Stastny, at least not for another five or 10 years. But some guys might want to know.

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I got it now. Everything's cool. I overreated because I was worried that I might not get the guy I want.

But for clarification's sake, does 200 pro games mean 200 NHL games? Does AHL count? How about European pro leagues? And do playoff games count? You'll never see me pick Toews or Kane or Paul Stastny, at least not for another five or 10 years. But some guys might want to know.
*cough* naming undrafted players *cough*




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...for clarification's sake, does 200 pro games mean 200 NHL games? Does AHL count? How about European pro leagues? And do playoff games count?
200 professional hockey games for the one required ACTIVE/nonretired player. So that could be in ANY pro league. Playoff games count. International tourney, tours, exhibition, all-star, college and non-pro junior leagues of course don't count. I don't think we'll have to split many hairs here. PM me with a guy you are thinking of drafting if it's a borderline case and I'll let you know.


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Is there an easy way of telling how many players from minor league draft #7 went in major league draft #8? I know at least 5 of my Minor league drfat picks from #7 went in the #8 main draft. Just curious.

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48 MLD7 selections were taken in the main draft, as well as 13 guys never selected before.

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Very interesting. 61 either from r the minor draft or new research. Whitby Dunlops had 6 of the 48. Oliver, Frank Patrick, Labine, Schwartz, Dan Maloney, Stanfield.

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The Syracuse Bulldogs had 3 : Jim Pappin, Paul Holmgren and Tom Dunderdale.

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Does the 200 games rule was...
- At the start of the year?
- At the start of the draft?
- At the moment the player is drafted?

I can think of a few guys who could only fit the third category at a certain point of the draft.

And does the 200 games played concerns goaltenders as well? I can think of one worthy guy (who was drafted in ATD 7 for Christ sakes...) who did not play 200 games, whether they are NHL, pro, or even adjusted-to-82 games-a-year-NHL AND PRO. (the guy had a short career).

Heck, I think (and too lazy to watch now) that there are at least one AST goalie who did not reached the 200-games mark... And what is Pro...? I mean.... Cristobal Huet could be voided on the 200-games basis depending what is considered pro.

EDIT : Forget about the retired player, and my not-so-subtle comment about LL's 3rd stringer in ATD-7, and the one about a former Hawks netminder as well. But the comment remain for the goaltender as well. Not that I thought about selected Huet to begin with, but I still think he's a better pick than AT LEAST one guy we (me and EB) drafted in MLD 7.

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The minimum 200 professional hockey games played is for the minimum one ACTIVE/nonretired player requirement and so as long as those games have been played at the moment they were picked, it's fine. it should have been a 250 or better 300 game rule if many teams want to flirt with guys with under three full seasons of experience!

Professional hockey is professional hockey. Not OHL or NCAA or junior Swedish teams. Yes, to ECHL, AHL, SEL, RSL, NHL, etc.

Again, if a g.m. thinks the career he wants to honour is anywhere near the minimum then just PM me for clarification. I promise I won't draft the guy.


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Very interesting. 61 either from r the minor draft or new research. Whitby Dunlops had 6 of the 48. Oliver, Frank Patrick, Labine, Schwartz, Dan Maloney, Stanfield.
I think you meant Bobby Schmautz, not Schwartz. And I would know this, because I picked Schmautz.

I think Murphy and I had four: Pat Flatley, Shane Doan, Tony McKegney and Joe Watson. We went top-heavy on defencemen and grinders early on. I don't think Doan is quite ATD worthy, and Flatley definitely isn't ATD worthy. We had a couple guys who I definitely think are worthy of the main draft, but weren't selected.

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Oh...
Dunderdale is definitely ATD worthy (albeit risky), but he probably won't miss any ATD afterwards. Pappin is one as well, even if I don't think he should be in any top-9, unless it's the best setting for the team. (like LL this darft)
Holmgren can make a good enforcer/13th forwards for teams who likes this option. I probably would not draft him.

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I think you meant Bobby Schmautz, not Schwartz. And I would know this, because I picked Schmautz.

I think Murphy and I had four: Pat Flatley, Shane Doan, Tony McKegney and Joe Watson. We went top-heavy on defencemen and grinders early on. I don't think Doan is quite ATD worthy, and Flatley definitely isn't ATD worthy. We had a couple guys who I definitely think are worthy of the main draft, but weren't selected.
I did mean Schmautz who along with the other forwards are all Ok picks in the main draft as 4th liners. The defenseman Frank Patrick belongs for sure in a 28 team main draft & I am surprised he was not picked in #7.

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Pit Martin, the second line centre and captain of the championship team of the last Minor League draft (Penticton Vees), has just won another championship as starting third line right wing. Hockey Outsider, in the g.m.s office for both picks, must be thinking of him as a bit of a good luck charm.

Camille Henry, the top left winger on the Vees, went to the milt dunnell final as the extra forward for the Clippers.

Which players drafted in the upcoming minor league will see quality action in the next main all-time draft? We shall see!

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