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01-23-2008, 08:57 PM
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Scott Gomez is the team MVP so far.

When we first signed gomez, most of us thought it would turn out that the Drury signing would be great and that the Gomez contract was a little bit shaky. That was on paper only, though.

Through the first 50 games, Gomez is +2 with 11 goals, 36 assists. That is .90 p/pg. Save for October, with 3 points in 11 games, Gomez has averaged just over 1.1 p/pg. He has 10 multi point games so far. The best part is he is responsible defensively.

Imagine what his numbers would be like if Jagr was the real Jagr?

He has been by far the most consistent Ranger. Is he worth his 7 mill. cap hit? that is debatable. But he has been far, far better than Drury thus far.

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01-23-2008, 09:03 PM
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When we first signed gomez, most of us thought it would turn out that the Drury signing would be great and that the Gomez contract was a little bit shaky. That was on paper only, though.

Through the first 50 games, Gomez is +2 with 11 goals, 36 assists. That is .90 p/pg. Save for October, with 3 points in 11 games, Gomez has averaged just over 1.1 p/pg. He has 10 multi point games so far. The best part is he is responsible defensively.

Imagine what his numbers would be like if Jagr was the real Jagr?

He has been by far the most consistent Ranger. Is he worth his 7 mill. cap hit? that is debatable. But he has been far, far better than Drury thus far.
Despite his recent struggles, it is pretty apparent Lundqvist has been your mvp.

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01-23-2008, 09:33 PM
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I'd give it to Gomez as well. I don't remember one game where he wasn't trying his hardest out there, especially with out less-than-spectacular offense this year.

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Gomez has been excellent for us, and I am looking forward to seeing him hopefully center Cherepanov or Bourret in the future. As for this season, I would think it would be between Henrik and Scotty on who would be our MVP.

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Despite his recent struggles, it is pretty apparent Lundqvist has been your mvp.
I dont think so. As good as Hank has been, Without Scotts p/pg, this team would be far away from playoff positioning. It could go to either Hank or Scott, as we would be lost without either of them.

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01-23-2008, 10:21 PM
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Lundqvist holds the crown for single-handedly keeping us in the first 20 games or so.

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01-23-2008, 10:33 PM
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Alright, Gomez is awesome, yah!! We get it guys, wow!! Being the team MVP on the Rangers is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome!

by the way, there's tremendous sarcasm there and I'm only joking, I don't know if any of you have seen the movie waiting and the guy they're training has a rant at the end of the movie and that's what I was hinting at. I'm just kidding, don't get me in trouble.

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Alright, Gomez is awesome, yah!! We get it guys, wow!! Being the team MVP on the Rangers is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome!

by the way, there's tremendous sarcasm there and I'm only joking, I don't know if any of you have seen the movie waiting and the guy they're training has a rant at the end of the movie and that's what I was hinting at. I'm just kidding, don't get me in trouble.
Eh, youre just jealous we get to watch him game in and game out!

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01-24-2008, 12:20 AM
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I dont think so. As good as Hank has been, Without Scotts p/pg, this team would be far away from playoff positioning. It could go to either Hank or Scott, as we would be lost without either of them.
I know I do not watch the Rangers as much as you, but Gomez's emergence has gone almost hand in hand with Jagr's, the first 20-30 games though you guys only seemed to win games where Lundqvist got a shutout. I would be foolish to argue that Gomez has not been valuable, but as somebody who does keep close tabs on the team I can say that without Lundqvist dominating every team he faced in the first 25 games you guys would be pretty close to LA right now.

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Thats what I said to Scott Clemmenson the other day when he asked "how do you like Gomez?"

I told him.. he shows up... every night... every shift... steady, consistent.. he kicks ass, basically.

He's the man

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Not just Gomez...amidst all the bad play and inconsistency. All of our centers have provided a consistent level of play and work ethic that has been a pleasure to watch.


But yeah, Gomez has been the best of the bunch.

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at some point his play is going to make me actually start liking him as a Ranger.

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I know I do not watch the Rangers as much as you, but Gomez's emergence has gone almost hand in hand with Jagr's, the first 20-30 games though you guys only seemed to win games where Lundqvist got a shutout. I would be foolish to argue that Gomez has not been valuable, but as somebody who does keep close tabs on the team I can say that without Lundqvist dominating every team he faced in the first 25 games you guys would be pretty close to LA right now.
No, Gomez was on track before being paired with Jagr. Gomez got Shanny and Avery going, and then was moved up to Jagr's line specifically because he was playing well and the coaching staff hoped he'd kickstart Jagr.

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You seem to forget how much Gomez struggled during the first 2 months of the season. I'm a Lundqvist homer, but anyhow, I think I still would have to give him the nod for being the MVP. If the roles would be reversed and Lundqvist struggled during the start of the season and Gomez the last month, there would be no discussion that Lundqvist would be the MVP.

With the whole half season in mind, it's Lundqvist. Yes, he's been giving up a couple of soft ones and had some bad games, but I think we've all pretty much agreed upon that the difficult illness of his father had affected him mentally since december (which happened to be his and the team's dip in performance). An athlete at this level who isn't at his top in every aspect you can imagine won't perform well.

This feam rises and falls with Lundqvist, it's as simple as that. I do recognize Gomez's importance to this team though. He's easily one of our best and most important players.

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Despite his recent struggles, it is pretty apparent Lundqvist has been your mvp.
Lundqvist didn't get Jagr going.

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Lundqvist didn't get Jagr going.
jagr has never been going.

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jagr has never been going.
24 in his last 18 = 1.33 PPG pace = 109 points over a full season = not too shabby

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24 in his last 18 = 1.33 PPG pace = 109 points over a full season = not too shabby
compare where he is now to the last 2 years and look at his goals.. nothing is where it should be with jagr. the rangers pay him to be dominant and score goals. when he doesn't show signes of dominance he is a turnover machine. not too shabby is not good enough for a guy like jagr.

and jagr also said he would have the greatest season of his career this year.

henrik is the mvp.

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compare where he is now to the last 2 years and look at his goals.. nothing is where it should be with jagr. the rangers pay him to be dominant and score goals. when he doesn't show signes of dominance he is a turnover machine.

and jagr also said he would have the greatest season of his career this year.

henrik is the mvp.
For doing what?

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For doing what?
are you serious? he was maybe the best goalie in the league in october and november. where would we be right now if we were losing those low scoring games? yes lately, he hasn't been great but if you noticed his numbers and play went down the same time our defense stopped playing in our own zone.

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are you serious?
Yup

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he was maybe the best goalie in the league in october and november.
3 months ago.

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where would we be right now if we were losing those low scoring games?
9th place?

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he hasn't been great but if you noticed his numbers and play went down the same time our defense stopped playing in our own zone.
Sounds like an MVP to me.


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Yup



3 months ago.



9th place?



Sounds like an MVP to me.
he keeps us in games that we shouldn't win and the only reason we are right outside of a playoff spot right now is because of him. we would be much worse right now if it wansn't for his play earlier in the season. if you think gomez fine, but i think its henrik.

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he keeps us in games that we shouldn't win and the only reason we are right outside of a playoff spot right now is because of him. we would be much worse right now if it wansn't for his play earlier in the season. if you think gomez fine, but i think its henrik.
Well then, I must of been in a coma the last two month and having nightmares about our franchise goaltender playing some of the worst hockey of his short career, and after a brilliant start has fallen so far that he actually lost out on an All-Star appearance to Vokoun.

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Well then, I must of been in a coma the last two month and having nightmares about our franchise goaltender playing some of the worst hockey of his short career, and after a brilliant start has fallen so far that he actually lost out on an All-Star appearance to Vokoun.
And we had Boston fans telling us that the Bruins don't need him because they have Tim Thomas and Manny Fernandez.

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And we had Boston fans telling us that the Bruins don't need him because they have Tim Thomas and Manny Fernandez.
Hell, Thomas was even chosen to replace Brodeur in the ASG.

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