HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Detroit Red Wings
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Hunt For a Top 4 Defenseman Begins Here!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-30-2008, 11:16 PM
  #1
Boomhower
Registered User
 
Boomhower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,657
vCash: 500
Hunt For a Top 4 Defenseman Begins Here!!

Regardless of Kronwall's status, I believe the Wings true need is another top 4 D-man (magnified if Kronner is back to the IR). Even Chelios who stands to lose playing time believes another D-man is needed.

Some of the Possible candidates:

Rob Blake, LAK, 6'3" - 222lbs
- 4G, 21Asst, 80 PIM and -13
- pending UFA
- earning $6M this season

Brad Stuart, LAK, 6'2" - 213lbs
- 4g, 9Asst, 59 PIM and -12
- pending UFA
- earning $3.5M this season

Jaroslav Modry, LAK, 6'2" - 220lbs
- 1G, 5Asst, 34 PIM and -4
- pending UFA
- earning $1.2M this season

Michal Rozsival, NYR, 6'2"-210lbs
- 12G, 17Asst, 52 PIM and -3
- pending UFA
- earning $2.1M this season

Paul Mara, NYR, 6'4"-219lbs
- 1G, 12Asst, 40 PIM and +1
- pending UFA
- earning $3M this season

Marek Malik, NYR, 6'6"- 240lbs
- 0G, 3Asst, 32 PIM and +1 (26 games)
- pending UFA
- earning $2.5M this season

Dmitri Kalinin, BUF, 6'3" -212lbs
- 0G, 4Asst, 18 PIM and E (26 games)
- pending UFA
- earning $2M this season

Brian Campbell, BUF, 6' - 190lbs
- 4G, 29asst, 6 PIM and +1
- pending UFA
- earning $1.5M this season

Barrett Jackman, STL, 6' - 213lbs
- 1G, 4Asst, 50 PIM and -15
- pending UFA
- earning $2.2M this season

Dan Boyle, TBL, 5'11" - 190lbs
- 2G, 2Asst, 0 PIM and -9 (6 games)
- pening UFA
- earning $3.625M this season
** Just returned from IR

Adam Foote, CBJ, 6'2" - 224lbs
- 1G, 12Asst, 69 PIM and +6
- pending UFA
- earning $4.6M this season

Pavel Kubina, TML, 6'4" - 244lbs
- 4G, 20Asst, 50 PIM and +3
- 2 more seasons @ 5M/year
- earning $5M this season

Brian Pothier, WAS, 6' - 198lbs
- 5G, 9Asst, 20 PIM and +5 (38 games)
- 2 more season @ $2.5M/year
- earning $2.5M this season
** IR with a concussion

Alexei Zhitnik, ATL, 5'11" - 215lbs
- 1G, 4Asst, 38 PIM and -13
- 1 more season @ 3.5M
- earning 3.5M this season

Joni Pitkanen, EDM, 6'3" - 210lbs
- 6G, 8Asst, 36 PIM and -1
- pending RFA
- earning $2.4M this season
** Rumoured Oil might not want to weigh into RFA waters with him

Who is everyone interested in? I know people seem to have a strong opinion about Blake one way or the other...
Feel free to throw some more names out there. I'll be sure to throw my opinion in soon enough.

Boomhower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-30-2008, 11:20 PM
  #2
Heaton
Moderator
#hope
 
Heaton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rochester, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 17,424
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Heaton
Blake, Stuart or Kalinin.

Personally, I think Blake and Stuart bring an intangible to the Wings, they both hate Anaheim, Blake more than Stuart. Will that make a huge difference? No clue, but it's something I think will bring an added aspect if we get one of them.

Heaton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-30-2008, 11:22 PM
  #3
Reilly*
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,867
vCash: 500
I wouldn't worry too much about height and weight. Detroit needs a skilled, PP defenseman more than anything.

Reilly* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-30-2008, 11:49 PM
  #4
Grand Volcan
Registered User
 
Grand Volcan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kelowna
Country: Canada
Posts: 426
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
I wouldn't worry too much about height and weight. Detroit needs a skilled, PP defenseman more than anything.
Don't they already have 2 of the best?

Grand Volcan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:07 AM
  #5
bullocks
Registered User
 
bullocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,040
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
I wouldn't worry too much about height and weight. Detroit needs a skilled, PP defenseman more than anything.
no we dont

bullocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:09 AM
  #6
bullocks
Registered User
 
bullocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,040
vCash: 500
I'll take Blake, Stuart, Foote or Rozsival

Any of those four would make me happy. Preferably Blake or Foote.

bullocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:15 AM
  #7
arin1
Registered User
 
arin1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 991
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
I wouldn't worry too much about height and weight. Detroit needs a skilled, PP defenseman more than anything.
uhh.. What? Are you joking?

Gimme Exelby, J Smith, maybe Foote.

arin1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:32 AM
  #8
The Thomas J.*
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 18,847
vCash: 500
Malik is defenitly on the block, Sather is trying to deal him.

The Thomas J.* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:41 AM
  #9
bullocks
Registered User
 
bullocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,040
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Thomas J. View Post
Malik is defenitly on the block, Sather is trying to deal him.
He won't be coming to Detroit

bullocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 01:08 AM
  #10
nibbles
Registered User
 
nibbles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WAL MART
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,399
vCash: 500
Send a message via Yahoo to nibbles
Malik is coming to Vancouver!! Vancouver loves the MALIK!!

nibbles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 02:17 AM
  #11
RedMenace
Zero ***** Given
 
RedMenace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Under the Bridge
Posts: 4,303
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bullocks View Post
I'll take Blake, Stuart, Foote or Rozsival

Any of those four would make me happy. Preferably Blake or Foote.
I wouldn't touch Roszival with a 10-foot, splinter-laden, wooden spoon. Every time I watch the Rangers play, he's making some pretty bone-headed plays...

... the funny thing is, earlier in the season Malik was saving Rosy's bacon more often than not...

RedMenace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 03:14 AM
  #12
Filppula
Jurks
 
Filppula's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,702
vCash: 500
Adam Foote for me thanks. But whatever happens, I want someone who'll stick around, not cost us great picks/prospects then leave immediately once the season is done.

Filppula is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 04:04 AM
  #13
Boomhower
Registered User
 
Boomhower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,657
vCash: 500
I would like to see Holland aquire Paul Mara, I know he's a boarderline top 4, but I've always been a big fan of Mara. He is a very good skater and can handle the puck, he does not have stone hands for a big guy.

I've always believed Mara has all the tools, but consistency hasn't been there throughout his career. He has also never really been apart of a consistantly good hockey team. I think Detroit would bring out the best in him and he would fit into the Wings system.

Mara wouldn't deplete Detroit's prospects like some of the bigger names and has a history playing some junior hockey in Michigan, so if things go well it's likely he could be brought back next season for good value (he's only 28).

Boomhower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 09:31 AM
  #14
The Winged Wheel
 
The Winged Wheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marquette, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 1,825
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to The Winged Wheel
What are the chances that Washington will sell Green?

The Winged Wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 09:45 AM
  #15
Heaton
Moderator
#hope
 
Heaton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rochester, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 17,424
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Heaton
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Winged Wheel View Post
What are the chances that Washington will sell Green?
Zero.

Heaton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 10:18 AM
  #16
cmccallum
 
cmccallum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 2,696
vCash: 500
Foote would be a great addition but, that salary i wouldn't do it especially as a rental. With that money i say go with Brian Campbell if they indeed are making a move for a d-man. Bring a little diversity to the defense and i believe Brian can play the Wings system well.

cmccallum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 10:43 AM
  #17
Spitfire11
Registered User
 
Spitfire11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,589
vCash: 500
I'd pay the hefty price and try to get the Blues to trade us Jackman. Try Foote next, but he's going to cost a lot as well. Stuart and Mara would be decent options. Most of those guys wouldn't be able to take Lilja's spot as the #4 though.

Spitfire11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 11:24 AM
  #18
Syndrome
get off my lawn!!1!
 
Syndrome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Country: United States
Posts: 185
vCash: 500
Blake has been more Blake-like the last month or so, but he'd clearly be a rental, and I'd be loathe to give up much for him. Jackman would be my second choice.

Syndrome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 11:27 AM
  #19
14ari13
Registered User
 
14ari13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Norway
Country: Norway
Posts: 9,638
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedMenace View Post
I wouldn't touch Roszival with a 10-foot, splinter-laden, wooden spoon. Every time I watch the Rangers play, he's making some pretty bone-headed plays...

... the funny thing is, earlier in the season Malik was saving Rosy's bacon more often than not...
Do you know that last 2 seasons combined Lidstrom is +61?

But what do you guess Malik is?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
He is +60.
__________________________________________________ _____________
Some of those Dmen you folks mention cost more than what the Wings would like to pay and some of them will cost more what the Wings can afford. Sorry but some of the names here are just a pipe dream.

14ari13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 12:33 PM
  #20
RedMenace
Zero ***** Given
 
RedMenace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Under the Bridge
Posts: 4,303
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 14ari13 View Post
Do you know that last 2 seasons combined Lidstrom is +61?

But what do you guess Malik is?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
He is +60.
__________________________________________________ _____________
Some of those Dmen you folks mention cost more than what the Wings would like to pay and some of them will cost more what the Wings can afford. Sorry but some of the names here are just a pipe dream.
And this is why I think Malik would be a good fit.

RedMenace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 01:28 PM
  #21
The Winged Wheel
 
The Winged Wheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marquette, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 1,825
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to The Winged Wheel
Lidstrom is an astounding +381 in his career.

The Winged Wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 01:58 PM
  #22
SoupGuru
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Spokane
Country: United States
Posts: 11,637
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spitfire11 View Post
I'd pay the hefty price and try to get the Blues to trade us Jackman. Try Foote next, but he's going to cost a lot as well. Stuart and Mara would be decent options. Most of those guys wouldn't be able to take Lilja's spot as the #4 though.
I think we're going to be outcasts here, but I'd love to see Jackman in Detroit. The reason is simple: I hate that *******. He's mean, plays with an edge, clears the crease, and will pop you in the chops because he feels like it...

Foote would be awesome too, for many of the same reasons.

Unfortunately, both are in our division.

SoupGuru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 02:07 PM
  #23
BruiseBros
 
BruiseBros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Penalty Box
Country: Isle of Man
Posts: 182
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnus the destroyer View Post
Foote would be a great addition but, that salary i wouldn't do it especially as a rental. With that money i say go with Brian Campbell if they indeed are making a move for a d-man. Bring a little diversity to the defense and i believe Brian can play the Wings system well.
Problem is, I believe Campbell would also only be a rental. He's looking for Vanek-like money, no way he's worth that much money. I'd love for the wings to get him, but I can't see paying him more than Lidstrom, if he signs.

BruiseBros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 02:17 PM
  #24
datsyukfan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 391
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnus the destroyer View Post
Foote would be a great addition but, that salary i wouldn't do it especially as a rental. With that money i say go with Brian Campbell if they indeed are making a move for a d-man. Bring a little diversity to the defense and i believe Brian can play the Wings system well.

Brian Campbell will thrive under the Red Wings system. He's smart and a very heads up type hockey player. That being said the only problem is that he may cost too much unless nobody is willing to pay what buffalo wants for him then maybe we can get him. Anyways he wont be in Buffalo after the season

datsyukfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2008, 02:24 PM
  #25
BruiseBros
 
BruiseBros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Penalty Box
Country: Isle of Man
Posts: 182
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by datsyukfan View Post
Brian Campbell will thrive under the Red Wings system. He's smart and a very heads up type hockey player. That being said the only problem is that he may cost too much unless nobody is willing to pay what buffalo wants for him then maybe we can get him. Anyways he wont be in Buffalo after the season
If Campbell isn't signed in the next 2 weeks, he's gone. No way Buffalo can afford to let another player walk at the end of the year without anything to show for it.

BruiseBros is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.