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02-06-2008, 01:58 PM
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I think he's a solid 2nd line winger who can score 20-30 a season, play the PK and be a reliable two-way player. Nothing wrong with that...and I don't want him to go anywhere.

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02-06-2008, 01:59 PM
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It's still too early to say. A better, more accurate assessment can be done next season. So far, he's played great in the second half of 05/06, and great at the beginning of the 06/07 season. After that, well I think most can admit that he's been very streaky at best, quite inconsistent at worst.

I think it's best to wait to see how he performs next season. Maybe this season he really is having a slump and is not representative of his potential. Higgins seems to think he;s a 40/40 kind of guy, I'll take his word on it for now.
Not to mention his linemates who are also having bad seasons... Im not defending Higgins or anything but when your whole line sucks it tends to rub off on you.

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02-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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He's a top 6 guy who can one day do 25-30 goals and 25-30 assists a season regularly.

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Isn't it of common knowledge that Higgins is NOT THE offensive superstar? He is and will be a hell of a hockey player, but he is not the guy who will put 40 goals a year....

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These threads are getting redundant.

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Higgins is still young and should be a fixture on the 2nd line in the future. He's having a bad season right now but nothing stops it from turning it around.

I like the Mike Fischer comparison even if they don't play the same position.

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02-06-2008, 02:03 PM
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No need to label players... depending on the night any of our players could be categorized accordingly. Carbo seems to be going with the hot hand, and the ice time for the most part reflects the game being played.

Higgins is a young player, and streakiness/inconsistency is a common trait of young players. He's got dangerous speed, a great ability to pressure opposing players into turnovers, and a good goal scoring touch. The expression "squeezing the stick" seems to be applicable. Playing on a line that isn't counted on to score goals is a good idea for now, as he can concentrate on the more simple parts of his game... ie: forechecking, backchecking. The goals will come when he stops thinking about them (like the slumping power hitter, just simplify things and go for the base hits).

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02-06-2008, 02:04 PM
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There is still no one better on the habs for creating turnovers....
Just wish his line would click a bit better...

but you'll see when then Hossa-Koivu-Higgins line formed... he will kick it into gear..!

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02-06-2008, 02:06 PM
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I see him as a guy going through a slump. A young veteran but still a player that needs to develop some experience to be able to better fight through these inevitable slumps so he doesn't get caught-up and let the bad breaks get into his head.

Let's not give up on Higgins because he's having a terrible spell - happens to all players at one time or another. He'll break out of this and will come out more experienced because of it.

He's a solid 2nd liner with PP and PK abilities as far as I can tell.

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02-06-2008, 02:10 PM
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These threads are getting redundant.
They are at that. But we do so love to re-hash familiar things don't we? Quick! Someone make a thread about Koivu's leadership or lack thereof...

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02-06-2008, 02:14 PM
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Higgins is an average first line material, a solid 2nd liner and a awesome 3rd line forward...

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02-06-2008, 02:17 PM
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I still like him enough to be a core member of the team. But I'm starting to think that maybe as an asset, he would be more useful as the building block of a good threatening 3rd line than as a 1st-2nd liner on whom we should rely offensively.
Because with all the chances he's had this season and with his inability to score, I'm thinking that he might lacks a bit of the offensive flair needed to play on the top two lines.

I think so. I see him as an excellent 3rd line player, to add a serious scoring punch, and depth to his line.

And hopefully, in that role he'll have less pressure to score, and can become a more consistent player night in and night out.

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02-06-2008, 02:21 PM
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I see him as a potential shut down specialist with some offensive skills... see Mike Fisher ..

We need to hold into him, those type of players are very important come playoff time !
yeah, that's totally what I was thinking about.

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lol which Kost is "Jimmy" and which is "Billy"?

I saw the game at the Bell in mid-december against the Leafs when I was in town...and these two really impressed me a lot. I'm a Ranger fan, but really enjoy watching the Habs this season.

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02-06-2008, 02:36 PM
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I would like to preface my comments with the fact that Chris Higgins is my favorite Hockey player.

I said this before a few months ago and ill say it again even though most disagreed with me.

I think higgins is an average first liner at best and I think he would be a great second line winger.

but really probobly is an amazing third liner. If we see him like that then I think playing him and grooming him in that role is the best for his career.

I mean look at Kost sr. he is basically a rookie but is playing on the top line and that is where I think he sould be becasue we want to groom him for that becasue that is what he is a First Line winger.

i say that to say this Chris should be on the second or third line and know him for what he is a fast hardworking 2o goal scorer with 35 assists all while playing a great team and defensive game.

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02-06-2008, 02:38 PM
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I would like to preface my comments with the fact that Chris Higgins is my favorite Hockey player.

I said this before a few months ago and ill say it again even though most disagreed with me.

I think higgins is an average first liner at best and I think he would be a great second line winger.

but really probobly is an amazing third liner. If we see him like that then I think playing him and grooming him in that role is the best for his career.

I mean look at Kost sr. he is basically a rookie but is playing on the top line and that is where I think he sould be becasue we want to groom him for that becasue that is what he is a First Line winger.

i say that to say this Chris should be on the second or third line and know him for what he is a fast hardworking 2o goal scorer with 35 assists all while playing a great team and defensive game.

Habman

Maybe I should of read the posts ahead of mine first lol sorry
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02-06-2008, 03:05 PM
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I think he'll be a solid two-way second line winger. I do think he can manage to pull first line duties a la Koivu (ie. not an elite player, but he can handle the duties), but with the prospects on this team, if we can retain them, he'd be a very, very valuable second line winger.

Don't really know what to say about his current slump. All of the former first line of Koivu, Higgins, and Ryder are in slumps this season, some bigger than others, so I don't think this season is indicative of Higgins' playing ability. He was very dominant to start '06-'07, and dropped off after his return from injury; this season, he had a dominant stretch at one point IIRC, and now is struggling. He'll eventually learn to play through the slumps rather than just hit the wall and stay there.

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02-06-2008, 03:13 PM
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Within 3 years the guy will be potting 30-40 goals a season and 1st unit PK duty.

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So what...maybe he doesnt hit 30 goals this season like so many of us thought...the important thing is that the Habs are winning and within a year or two he should hit at least 30 goals...bring incredible energy/effort every night...and be a great two way forward. Hopefully down the line he can do 35-40goals.

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02-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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I'm going to be patient and wait for him to blow up like AKost did. I have faith in Chris and I think we all know how good he can be when he's on a hot streak. He has the talent and eventually with hard work and a little luck the consistency will come.

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Have a feeling he's injured. Hasn't come close to his ceiling yet either. Remember when he was doing awesome last year before his injury. Further, the whole higgins-koivu-ryder line is pretty much ****. When ryders replacement is found we'll see better results, not to be a basher but he kills the flow/tempo all the time. Finally, the players who had their breakout year this year (komi, plekanec) are both older then him.

Time does everything. Anyway, i think he has an upperbody injury. I never see him aim for the top corners anymore.

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02-06-2008, 05:21 PM
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He's a 2nd line guy who right now is playing like a 4th line guy. He'll snap out of it. A shakeup with some different linemates might work, regardless he's going to have to pull it together soon. Its never good to start slumping before the trade deadline, esp in Montreal.

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He will be fine, and will be a good first or second line player. He has not played with anyone who has been much of a threat this year. Koivu (god love him) has not been doing much offensively this year, and last night was basically non existent other than his penalty and losing the last face off of the game. Pleks is looking good, but I think that is more due to the fact he is playing with Kovy and Kosty. If Pleks had been playing with Ryder and/or Lats all year and I don't think he would have racked up as many points. Most times a players production is directly related to those who play around him. Not using this as an excuse though, because there has been plenty a game where Higgins has had lots of chances, and has not put the puck in the net. He leads the team in shots, but none of them seem to be going in for him. He has great speed, great hustle, and a pretty decent shot. Watch out...he will turn things around before the year is out, and I would bet he would be a serious threat in the playoffs as well. Don't panic.....Higgins is the real deal.

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I think he's a solid 2nd line winger who can score 20-30 a season, play the PK and be a reliable two-way player. Nothing wrong with that...and I don't want him to go anywhere.
Well said. A very accurate description of what we should be thinking about Higgins right now.

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Higgins a 3rd liner? WTF???

How many teams do you know have a 50-60 point guys on the 3rd line?

I think he could be a PPGM player if he had high end linemates. His avlue is more than just putting up points, he plays a very well rounded game. If he has 1 flaw that he needs to work on it's to me more consistant in his offense. I hear he is a guy that's very hard on himself, maybe he needs to relax a bit and just play...

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