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02-14-2008, 05:45 PM
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He was heads and shoulders above any LW left on my list. We gave him a long look for our 13th forward spot, but we decided to go with Jeff Friesen as a Game 7 ringer instead. Couldn't believe he slipped out of the MLD.
I had him in the previous MLD. Also, quite surprised he slipped in this one.

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The Bulldogs select LW. Greg Gilbert

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Left-winger Greg Gilbert played over 800 NHL games with four different clubs in the 80s and 90s. He possessed above average offensive talent but carved a niche for himself as a big leaguer based on stellar defensive work and leadership skills.

Born in Mississauga, Ontario, Gilbert scored nearly 200 points in three seasons with the Toronto Marlboros of the OHA/OHL. He was chosen 80th overall by the New York Islanders in 1980 then returned to junior to continue his development. He began the 1982-83 season with the CHL's Indianapolis Checkers then was recalled to the parent club a third of the way through the schedule.

Gilbert looked solid while playing ten playoff games to help the Islanders win their fourth straight Stanley Cup. The next season he scored 31 goals while playing...and aided the club's drive to the final where they lost to the Edmonton Oilers. Gilbert eventually settled into a checking role on the club as it began to rebuild in the mid-80s.

Prior to the trade deadline in March, 1989 Gilbert was sent to the Chicago Black Hawks. He fit in well under the close-checking systems of Mike Keenan and Darryl Sutter. In 1992 he was an important role player on the Hawks when they drove all the way to the Stanley Cup final. The veteran winger was signed as a free agent by the New York Rangers prior to the 1993-94 season then contributed to the franchise's first Stanley Cup triumph. Gilbert played parts of two seasons with the St. Louis Blues before ending his career in 1995-96.

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Alfredshems IK takes a guy who is a solid shutdown defenseman, a player who was a part of Sweden's defense for quite a few years.

D Marcus Ragnarsson.

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Marcus Ragnarsson played six years of hockey in the Swedish Elite League with Djurgardens before making the leap to North America to launch his NHL career with the San Jose Sharks in 1995.

With so many years of elite competition already under his belt, Ragnarsson had all of the skills necessary to step right into the Sharks' lineup and add stability to the team.

He did so by establishing himself as a consistent and dependable rearguard who played a sound positional game and made good use of his size to maintain control of his own zone. He also showed great stamina by logging a tone of minutes in key situations.

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Also, BM or Nalyd, or any other mod for that matter, could we have this thread stickied please? Thanks.

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Marcus Ragnarsson.
He was quite effective and underrated during the clutch-and-grab late 90's (i remember him getting three holding calls in a single game). His game didn't transfer to the post-lockout new NHL quite so well. Though he still showed his hockey sense in Philly. As a Shark fan I liked him for years. Every team can afford and benefit from having one of him in the stable.

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Nope. He only had 4. Novy,Hull & Zhluktov all had 5.
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the falcons select Keith Brown (D)
Defenceman Keith Brown was a steady two-way performer for 16 NHL seasons. He was equally proficient at looking after matters in his own zone and contributing on offence.

Born in Corner Brook, Newfoundland, Brown headed across the country to play for the Fort Saskatchewan Traders of the Alberta Junior Hockey League. He then spent three years in the WCJHL with the Portland Winter Hawks and represented Canada at the World Junior Championships in 1979. After registering 96 points in the regular season and 30 assists in 30 playoff games in 1978-79, the young rearguard was chosen seventh overall by the Chicago Black Hawks.

Brown was a solid player in all phases of the game and a die-hard competitor. He reached double figures in goals twice and helped Chicago reach the Stanley Cup finals in 1992 and the semi-finals in 1982, 1983, 1985, and 1989. His tenacious effort on the ice took its toll on Brown's body as he missed considerable time as a result of injuries in seven of his 14 years in the Windy City.

Late in his career Brown was shipped to the expansion Florida Panthers to add stability and defence to the young squad. He was a solid +11 in 51 games the first years the retired in 1995 after seeing action in only 13 contests.

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Defenceman Keith Brown was a steady two-way performer for 16 NHL seasons. He was equally proficient at looking after matters in his own zone and contributing on offence.

Born in Corner Brook, Newfoundland, Brown headed across the country to play for the Fort Saskatchewan Traders of the Alberta Junior Hockey League. He then spent three years in the WCJHL with the Portland Winter Hawks and represented Canada at the World Junior Championships in 1979. After registering 96 points in the regular season and 30 assists in 30 playoff games in 1978-79, the young rearguard was chosen seventh overall by the Chicago Black Hawks.

Brown was a solid player in all phases of the game and a die-hard competitor. He reached double figures in goals twice and helped Chicago reach the Stanley Cup finals in 1992 and the semi-finals in 1982, 1983, 1985, and 1989. His tenacious effort on the ice took its toll on Brown's body as he missed considerable time as a result of injuries in seven of his 14 years in the Windy City.

Late in his career Brown was shipped to the expansion Florida Panthers to add stability and defence to the young squad. He was a solid +11 in 51 games the first years the retired in 1995 after seeing action in only 13 contests.
thanks for posting the bio johnny, for some reason, i cannot access the "legends of hockey" website from campus...

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02-14-2008, 09:18 PM
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The New York Americanadians are so pleased to select Right Winger: Carson Cooper.

At the age of 25, Carson Cooper played his first professional hockey league game as a member of the Boston Bruins in 1924. He played 12 games that year, scoring five goals and eight points. In 1925-26, he dressed for 36 games and was an offensive powerhouse, scoring 28 times. The following year, Cooper was traded midway through the season to the Montreal Canadiens. In 14 games with his new club, he scored five goals and eight points. The Bruins, minus Cooper, advanced to the championship finals that year, but lost to the Ottawa Senators.

In 1927-28, Cooper began a three-year association with the Detroit Cougars where he did not miss a single game. In 1929-30, he had the finest year of his NHL career, scoring 18 goals and 36 points. In 1931-32, the team became the Detroit Falcons, and Cooper dressed for all 48 games. After a year out of professional hockey, Cooper joined the IHL's Detroit Olympics where he served a dual role of player and assistant coach, contributing 17 points. He played one more year with the Olympics before retiring after the 1934-35 campaign.


Career in NHL:
GM: 294
G: 110
A: 57
P: 167
PIM: 111

An offensive powerhouse is what we wanted and what we got. Not much of a passer cause of his bullet shot and great abilites to find the back of the net.

We also select, Center: Jimmy Herberts.
Jimmy Herberts, who earned his nickname by spending summers as a deckhand on hte Great Lakes, began his NHL career with the Boston Bruins in1924. His rookie season he had 24 points in 30 games. He followed that up in 1925-26 with 26 goals and five assists for a 31-point, 36-game season, the third highest scoring total in the NHL.

Herberts played for the Bruins until he was traded to Toronto in December 1927. At the end of the season, he was traded to Detroit, where he played the next two seasons. He then moved to the IHL for three years before retiring from play. Jimmy Herberts died of cancer in 1968.


Career in NHL:
GM: 206
G: 83
A: 31
P: 114
PIM: 253

Herberts career went down after he left the Bruins where everything was offence. With Boston he recorded 88 points in 112 games.

As many know assists totals werent big back in this time so thats why the goals/assists is so skewed in favor of goals. Just check some of the teams out from the mid 1920's.

Sorry for the delay. Both of us were really caught up.

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02-14-2008, 09:40 PM
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The New York Americanadians are so pleased to select Right Winger: Carson Cooper.
Two-time top scorer for Detroit.

Carson "Shovel Shot" Cooper


He was on my radar.

Cooper was on a Hamilton team that edged (my Redmen) Moose Goheen's Pittsburgh team 4-3 though the next night Goheen "skating through the opposition, scored a pretty goal" in a 5-0 win.
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ST. CATHARINES FALCONS
The Falcons are proud to select Retro Selke Award Winner Forward Charley McVeigh

He was a consistent two-way player for nearly 400 games in the 1920s and '30s. He managed to hit double figures in goals four times despite playing on weak teams for most of his career.

Born in Kenora, Ontario, McVeigh played in the NOHA with the local Thistles in 1918-19. This was followed by two years of senior hockey with the Winnipeg Victorias and the Moose Jaw Maple Leafs. During the early '20s, the young forward rejected the NHL in favour of the WCHL. McVeigh enjoyed four solid years with the Regina Capitals and one season with the Portland Rosebuds after the franchise relocated.

McVeigh's rights were transfered to the Chicago Black Hawks after the NHL team purchased the Portland franchise on May 15, 1926. In 1926-27, McVeigh scored 12 goals when partnered with Cully Wilson and Mickey Mackay. He played one more year in Chicago before he was sent to the New York Americans for Alex McKinnon. McVeigh spent seven years with the weak New York club and was often its most consistent player. He retired in 1936 after playing a year in the IAHL with the London Tecumsehs.


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Chicago selects goalie-Joe Daley

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Despite playing 105 games in the NHL, Daley will be best remembered for the second stage of his career which began with the formation of the World Hockey Association in 1972. Daley was selected by his hometown club, the Winnipeg Jets and he would spend the next seven seasons; the duration of the WHA's existence, with them.

Daley served as the Jets back up in 1972-73, but he took the starting reigns the following year and enjoyed great success with them. In 1975-76 Daley won 41 games and backstopped the Jets to their first Avco Cup as league champions. By the time the WHA folded Daley was the winningest goaltender in league history and had three Avco Cup championships on his resume. _legends of hockey

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The Blades select Gus Bodnar's long time linemate on the 'Flying Forts' Line, RW Bud Poile.

I'll post more details after school.

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How was Carson Cooper not taken? I could have sworn his name was mentioned.

Greg GIlbert = great pick. I definitely had my eye on him.

The Regina Potholes select for today, D Bob Rouse. Rouse was a defensive rock whose 1994 defection from Toronto via free agency is still blamed as the turning point in the Leafs' defensive game. Rouse put together two solid playoff runs in 1993 and 1994 with the Leafs, and then two more in 1995 and 1996 with the Red Wings, before hwlping them win the cup in 1997 and 1998, an amazing six straight years of helping his teams win at least two playoff runs, playing 106 playoff games in that stretch.

Rouse was double tough. He could punish you with a bodycheck, with cross checks and slashes in the crease, or just by dropping the gloves and pounding you. With just 1559 career penalty minutes in 1061 games and 91 career NHL fights, he was not the type to take an inordinate amount of minor penalties.

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Picks for the semi-finals of the MLD were due in this morning. I am extending the deadline until Noon est on Saturday.

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Sorry about that, JFF. I'll make sure to get them in tonight.

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I watched this guy play too many good games to be forgotten. I worked in Northern Alberta six years ago and the newspapers ripped most players on the team but everyone knew this guy was the reason they stayed in games, their reliable workhorse,...


Tommy Salo


Olympic gold medal (1994) (save against Kariya in the shootout)
IHL Turner Cup championships (1995, 1996), Best Rookie ('95), MVP ('95), Playoff MVP ('96)
World Cup 1996 2-3 2OT semi-final loss to Canada but brilliant
World Championship all-star (1997, 1998, 1999)
NHL all-star game (2000, 2002)
Top-ranked Swedish goalie (1994-2003)
Holds the Edmonton Oilers all-time record for lowest goals-against average (2.40)
210 NHL wins, 37 shutouts

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His ability to steal a game is pivotal to the success of the Oilers... establishing himself among the best goalkeepers in the league... his teammates want him as their guy between the pipes any day of the week. Teammate Todd Marchant described him as being the team's MVP all year long last season. Salo can be white-hot. While with the Islanders, many followers doubted his potential as a No. 1 goalie. But since his arrival in Edmonton, he has proven them wrong. One of the NHL's steadiest No. 1 men
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goalie Mario Lessard.

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Tommy Salo
Very underrated ... so many people only remember a couple of really, really bad moments. Nice pick.

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Alfredshems IK select HHOF defenseman Billy McGimsie More later.

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Billy McGimsie was the son of a contractor who had to move around year-by-year to find work to support his young family. Originally from Port Hope, the McGimsies had moved to Woodville in the spring of 1880 before Billy was born, and they were off again a year later, this time moving north to Rat Portage (now known as Kenora).

McGimsie began playing organized hockey with the local school teams and with teams in the Church and Mercantile Leagues. He joined the Rat Portage Thistles in 1902 after quitting school and paying the going rate of two dollars to sign on with the club. The Thistles won the league title that year and journeyed to Ottawa in March 1903, challenging the mighty Silver Seven for the Stanley Cup. The Thistles, with only one player over the age of 20, lost both games of the challenge in what was to become the first of nine straight Cup defenses for the Ottawas.

The Thistles challenged Ottawa again in March 1905. The Silver Seven were without the services of star player Frank McGee and the challengers won the first game of the series by a score of 9-3. Ottawa, with McGee back in the lineup, won the next two games to send the Thistles home empty-handed for a second time. The fates changed in January 1907 as the re-named Kenora Thistles traveled to Montreal to challenge the Wanderers for the Cup. The Thistles finally won the Cup on this, their third attempt, by defeating Montreal 12-8 in a two-game total-goal series. McGimsie contributed a goal to the cause, and Kenora, with a population of only 4,000, had become the smallest town ever to win the Stanley Cup.


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D Howie Young
Young earned a reputation as one of the toughest, most talented, and most wheels-off defensemen in hockey. A poor man's Eddie Shore, he was skilled and was a huge hitter, but was tremendously undisciplined both on an off the ice, demolished the league's PIM record back in '63, ended up getting run out of Detroit, played in Chicago and LA, eventually became an actor and -- according to wikipedia -- moved to New Mexico and drove school busses. Those kids had no idea. Serious drunkard.

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D Howie Young
Young earned a reputation as one of the toughest, most talented, and most wheels-off defensemen in hockey. A poor man's Eddie Shore, he was skilled and was a huge hitter, but was tremendously undisciplined both on an off the ice, demolished the league's PIM record back in '63, ended up getting run out of Detroit, played in Chicago and LA, eventually became an actor and -- according to wikipedia -- moved to New Mexico and drove school busses. Those kids had no idea. Serious drunkard.
That is a great pick. Somehow slipped off my list.

I remember him well. Great skills but a head case. If he had it together, he would have had a great career.

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The Bulldogs select Forward Russ Courtnall

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As Courtnall joined the Montreal Canadiens, he was determined to prove to himself--fans and the Maple Leafs--that they were wrong about his value. In 64 games, Courtnall put up just 39 points with the Habs, but his lightning fast skating and breathtaking moves made him a fan favourite. Some said his style of play reminded them of Yvan Cournoyer of a generation before. Being more at ease with his new club, Courtnall saved his best performance for the playoffs, where the Canadiens advanced all the way to the Stanley Cup finals before losing to the Calgary Flames. In 21 post-season games, Courtnall contributed eight goals and 13 points.

Courtnall enjoyed another two-and-a-half years in Montreal before joining the Minnesota North Stars for the 1992-93 season. In 84 games, he managed a career-high 36 goals and 43 assists for 79 points. He followed that up with an 80-point season in the team's first year of play in Dallas. Late in the 1994-95 season, Courtnall was traded to the Vancouver Canucks where he teamed with his brother, Geoff, for 13 games that year.

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The first full season I watched hockey, I thought Courtnall was HOF-worthy.

My, how things change ...
He was actually a pretty good defensive forward. Played RW on the best checking line in the league with McPhee and Carbonneau. Good enough to be a two-way line RW in the MLD.

Didn't reach his offensive potential on a consistent basis. He should have been a perennial 40-goal guy. He reached that level once. Great speed. Bullet shot. Great offensive ability and creativity. One of his biggest offensive weaknesses: he didn't use his shot enough.

There is no way that older brother Geoff should have finished with 70 more goals.

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The Niagra Falls Americanadians are proud to select: Defenseman: Marty Burke (1928-1938)
Defenceman Marty Burke played nearly 500 games in the 1920s and '30s. He was a adept at taking opposition forwards out of the play and feeding the puck up to his forwards. He could also play a nastier brand of hockey if matters on the ice required it.

The Toronto native played with the St. Mary's junior and senior squads before spending two years with the Stratford Indians of the OHA senior league. After playing the 1926-27 season with the Port Arthur Ports, Burke joined the Montreal Canadiens for eleven games then was loaned to the Pittsburgh Pirates for the remainder of the schedule. He returned to Montreal the next year and remained a member of their defensive brigade for nearly five years. He was an integral part of the club that won consecutive Stanley Cups in 1930 and 1931.

Following a trade, Burke spent the last 16 games of the schedule on the Ottawa Senators before returning to Montreal for the 1933-34 season. On October 3, 1934 he was part of a major trade that saw Lorne Chabot and Howie Morenz join him in Chicago in return for Lionel Conacher, Roger Jenkins, and Leroy Goldsworthy. Burke spent over three years solidifying the Hawks defense then returned to the Canadiens early in the 1937-38 season. Burke retired that spring then spent a year coaching the senior Saskatoon Quakers.

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