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02-03-2008, 12:35 PM
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Tell that to George Parros and Shawn Thornton...
I will... once the Jackets acquire Niedermayer, Pronger, Giguere, Getzlaf, Perry, Selanne...

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02-03-2008, 12:45 PM
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If this team is going to fall out of the playoff race because Jody Shelley got traded then they don't deserve to be in the playoff race to begin with.
Well said.

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02-03-2008, 12:52 PM
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The timing does kind of suck but I can't really argue that it was a bad move. Shelley's type of play is better suited on a team going to the playoffs, not one struggling to make it. I saw this coming as soon as he had been a healthy scratch since what seems like December. It's clear that Boll is taking over his role and while he was great in the locker room/community, we are on the bare borderline of reaching the postseason and it might not be the best idea to be holding onto a guy like that.

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02-03-2008, 01:01 PM
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I understand what you're saying, but there has to be a reason the Sharks, a team going to the playoffs, traded for a guy like Shelley. I know they have more talent than we do, but to them, Jody filled a need for toughness and maybe leadership (I'm guessing on the leadership thing, but who knows if the Sharks were aware of Jody's off-ice contributions, also). If we got something more than a late round pick in 2009, something we need now, then the trade would be easier to take.

I agree with Robert's reasoning-the timing stinks.
The Sharks wanted Jody only for the Playoffs...in case they meet divisional rival Anaheim, and it's expected they will. They generally get physically abused when they meet Anaheim, and if you are in the playoffs, you need your guys to stay healthy.

As for Jody having something to do with the way the CBJ are playing (something that others mentioned)...that's a load of crap. If anything, we should be playing better for multiple reasons: 1) If you don't want to be traded you bring it every night 2) Jody's 5 minutes of missed ice time means that someone else is on the ice who might rake in a point here or there...maybe Jared Boll? 3) If Jody cared about this organization and the other guys so much, and vice versa, then the guys should want to make the playoff race in honor of him and give the guy a chance to say that he played on the CBJ '07/08 team that made the playoffs in 2008.


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02-03-2008, 02:11 PM
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San jose traded for Shelley in the event that they would need more toughness if they went up against Anaheim in the Playoffs. Right now, we should just be concerned with making them...San Jose isn't going to miss the playoffs, thats not in doubt for them.


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02-03-2008, 02:21 PM
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I will... once the Jackets acquire Niedermayer, Pronger, Giguere, Getzlaf, Perry, Selanne...
Well Said Toews

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02-03-2008, 02:23 PM
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San jose traded for Shelley in the event that they would need more toughness if they went up against Anaheim in the Playoffs.
Yeah, I understand that, but that means the Ducks also have guys like Shelley on the team. And, as mentioned somewhere else, Hitch said a few months ago that as soon as you trade a guy like Shelley, 2 weeks later you need to go out and find another. I guess the bottom line is that I could more easily accept trading Jody if he was part of a package that got us Marleau and not just a 6th round pick a couple of years from now.l

What I really want is a guy with Jody's size, toughness and heart, but can contribute on the score board more than once a season. Most of the true enforcers in the league (Boogard, D.J. King, that type of player) don't really bring anything else to the table. I noticed that when teams with those type of players came to town and Jody was a scratch, they spent most of the game tied to the bench, having no other purpose than to fight. Don't get me wrong, I like the fights, but one-dimensional players seem like a waste of a roster spot.

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02-03-2008, 05:12 PM
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robert, you said exactly what i have been thinking. spot on!!! the timing was crap, and the impact in the locker room i think is more than we know. well done.
Thanks Moss, and Rick as well. We as an HF CBJ family will never agree 100% with each other but it's important for frequent posters to not fear speaking their mind, in the correct tone of course. You never know who out there feels the same way.....

There is more to our slide than just the timing of the Shelley trade but it was a contributor. Bad move by our rookie GM......strike one.

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02-03-2008, 05:17 PM
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Nobody has openly supported Jody Shelley more than I have around here.
And I'm glad he's moved on. It was time.

He's in a better place

Expect more moves.

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02-15-2008, 06:37 PM
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Kind of wish we had him Wednesday to knock some heads. Kind of funny that he is not good enough to play for the Jackets.

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02-16-2008, 11:05 AM
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Kind of wish we had him Wednesday to knock some heads. Kind of funny that he is not good enough to play for the Jackets.
I think you're right but, you're wrong...

The CBJ don't have enough scoring talent to carry a Jody Shelly along for a playoff push. They need everyone they can get to score goals/points. San Jose does and they need his 'talent' - being an enforcer.

Jody wasn't 'good enough' at scoring - he was pretty darn good at enforcing!

Jody's pretty face and autograph hang in a frame in my office. It will hang in a place of prominance(sp?) for a long time. He was a beloved part of our team. I'm sad he's gone but, happy that he's going to get the games in to get his NHL pension. And, will be thrilled when he comes back to Columbus in the summer to continue his career in hockey.

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02-16-2008, 12:39 PM
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if our team is playing bad because we lost an enforcer that rarely plays. We definitely have some leadership problems we need to fix. (But based on the DET game, i think we might be ok)

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02-16-2008, 04:18 PM
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I'm glad Shelley was traded. Hitchcock didn't want to use him, so now he can play game after game for the Sharks. I've seen all games, and I can honestly tell you he is playing great compared to his ice time. Two assists so far and a lot of tough hits.

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02-18-2008, 10:09 AM
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Gotta say, without Boll in the lineup now, we lack that edge that the CBJ need.

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02-18-2008, 11:11 AM
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Was it a big mistake to trade Shelley. Wonder if we stayed pat if we would have been better off? It's like we're a different team now and we didn't get anything for him. I also wonder when Nash will get back from the All-Star game? Should have traded for a back up goal tender because ours stinks.
Regardless of his worth(and we could argue for eternity over that), the fact is we weren't playing him, so trading him was logical. If Hitch doesn't see any use for the guy, then why keep him and his one way contract on the books?

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02-18-2008, 12:15 PM
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Shelley traded = Jackets begin to tank

You'd have to be a doof not to see the connection.

Then when Fedorov got hurt... well....

I'm open to other theories.

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02-18-2008, 12:49 PM
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Shelley traded = Jackets begin to tank

You'd have to be a doof not to see the connection.

Then when Fedorov got hurt... well....

I'm open to other theories.
I thought we tanked in November(5-6-3) too, and #45 was still on the roster then.

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02-18-2008, 07:27 PM
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agreed... stop giving the guys all this ammunition to use... They are professional athletes, this sort of thing happens all the time...

The bottom line: If it affected them this much, they were too emotionally fragile to do what needed to be done to make it into the playoffs...plain and simple.

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02-18-2008, 08:17 PM
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Shelley traded = Jackets begin to tank

You'd have to be a doof not to see the connection.

Then when Fedorov got hurt... well....

I'm open to other theories.

youve got to be kidding me?

shelley wasnt doing squat doodly do for us! dicky t is worth two

shelleys to tell you the truth

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02-18-2008, 09:55 PM
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Yeah, I was kidding.
But seriously, I'm working up excuses for this season and need your help.

The Noose in the Nat? (Only a few ever actually saw it.)
Claude's 2 Goal Curse?

Can't decide.


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02-18-2008, 11:30 PM
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I vote for Claude's 2 goal curse.

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Boy, we sure are missing those 0 goals and 0 assists!

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