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04-24-2004, 01:37 AM
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first of all Ribs shouldnt be the only one to pay for tonight. I tought it was an easy escape by CJ. That line needs a new linemate cuz im tired of seing Dagenais not doing anything and being there just because of his "shot" that we havent seen yet. To win this series we'll need speed and creativity and that is where Ribeiro and a speedier linemate will be helpful. All of their goals were results of turnorvers that we could have avoided easily. Maybe Dackell should play next game cuz we need more guys who can skate awaiting for Ward's comeback.
Forget about Dackell, he's useless in the playoffs. Then again, he couldn't be as bad as Sundstrom was tonite (and Julien kept playing him again and again!).

As for Ribs, well maybe he need to be put on the 4th for a game. Also about Dagenais, get him out of the lineup PLEASE!

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Hey come on Raider, Ribs is young, it would be crazy too trade him away after his first successful season unless you could get a really good young and big player in return, which you wont imo. Ribs will be back, but he has to learn to keep things simple and give more consistent efforts. As for the dive, was it??? Still very debatable, and certainly not concluded yet and never will be.
Sorry there, but i have to agree with Raider... As much as i like ribs' talent and aside the fact that he would be untradable because of his popularity (Does BG cares?), i only think he will hurt the team in the long run.

Don't get me wrong, he could be playing well in the series, my opinion would remain. i just think he needs a little slap on the face to get him back on Earth. But if gainey can't find the right incitives then who can?

Ribs was earning my respect a step at a time. I have to admit the "fake injury" (was it fake?) made me look at him another way. He needs to bring the efforts back and IMO he doesn't. This is not Disneyland and he should realise it. I'm sure that when he does my opinion will then change.

For now, i really don't know. A shame to see so much talent play cards on the ice at times...

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04-24-2004, 06:16 AM
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Ribs is a conceited @$$. I wouldn't be sad to see him go.

He IS a good young hockey player with some potential, but he just isn't the kinda guy I'd want on my team. And he has been invisible in all but 1 of the playoff games thus far.

On top of all this, I'm sure he's the kinda guy who will try to be greedy as hell when it comes to resigning him for next year. And if he tries to pull something like that, I wouldn't hesitate to trade his rights.

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Ribs is a conceited @$$. I wouldn't be sad to see him go.

He IS a good young hockey player with some potential, but he just isn't the kinda guy I'd want on my team. And he has been invisible in all but 1 of the playoff games thus far.

On top of all this, I'm sure he's the kinda guy who will try to be greedy as hell when it comes to resigning him for next year. And if he tries to pull something like that, I wouldn't hesitate to trade his rights.
I have to agree I haven't liked his antics. And he hasn't done anything in the playoffs. Still, I think he's more valuable on our roster... we wouldn't get much for him yet. Besides, he's still young.

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04-24-2004, 08:22 AM
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Sorry there, but i have to agree with Raider... As much as i like ribs' talent and aside the fact that he would be untradable because of his popularity (Does BG cares?), i only think he will hurt the team in the long run.

Don't get me wrong, he could be playing well in the series, my opinion would remain. i just think he needs a little slap on the face to get him back on Earth. But if gainey can't find the right incitives then who can?

Ribs was earning my respect a step at a time. I have to admit the "fake injury" (was it fake?) made me look at him another way. He needs to bring the efforts back and IMO he doesn't. This is not Disneyland and he should realise it. I'm sure that when he does my opinion will then change.

For now, i really don't know. A shame to see so much talent play cards on the ice at times...

Im not a Ribs fan at all either Catala. I still hate that cocky attitude and his flashy game, but what im saying is to give up on him now is a little crazy. I mean if he disapears again next season in the post season, than i say give him the boot. The biigest one you can find!!!!

I think the biggest challenge for Ribs this summer will be putting on weight and leg strength to increse his speed, because if he doesnt, i dont see him getting much better and will hurt the team in the long run like you say. Im sure BG is gona have atleast one of his eyes on Ribs the whole summer, especially in training camp.

Personally, i still would rather have Higgins as our future second line centre, because of his talent and two way game, but maybe thats just me. Im know to be a crazy kinda guy!!


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My concern about Ribs is that now that he's guarenteed a 2nd line spot, I hope he won't lose his motivation. I mean last summer he worked his ass off to gain size, and he definetly needs to keep working on it. I really wish he'll continue his training this summer (and on if there's a work stoppage).

CJ got heat from the french media because he benched him this year, but it looks like this is the only thing Ribs understands. He has tons of talent, but his work ethics stinks big time. He's not the kind of player BG likes, and we all know Bob doesn't care about what the public might think if he were traded. Still, it's too soon to give up on him. He did some great things this year, and I think we should give more time before sending him away. Because if he happens to break out big time elsewhere, then we're in trouble. What pisses me off about him (and Theo for that matter) is that he's much more valuable to this team (because of the media) than he would be anywhere else. It's especially true in Theo's case since he's going out with a member of a well known family. This has been fine in the past (and will remain that way) as long as both players deserve their paycheck.

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My concern about Ribs is that now that he's guarenteed a 2nd line spot, I hope he won't lose his motivation. I mean last summer he worked his ass off to gain size, and he definetly needs to keep working on it. I really wish he'll continue his training this summer (and on if there's a work stoppage).

CJ got heat from the french media because he benched him this year, but it looks like this is the only thing Ribs understands. He has tons of talent, but his work ethics stinks big time. He's not the kind of player BG likes, and we all know Bob doesn't care about what the public might think if he were traded. Still, it's too soon to give up on him. He did some great things this year, and I think we should give more time before sending him away. Because if he happens to break out big time elsewhere, then we're in trouble. What pisses me off about him (and Theo for that matter) is that he's much more valuable to this team (because of the media) than he would be anywhere else. It's especially true in Theo's case since he's going out with a member of a well known family. This has been fine in the past (and will remain that way) as long as both players deserve their paycheck.

YA i see Higgins as more of a Gainey type. Physical, fast, good offensive instincts, excellent defensively. Wait a minute........
Remind me again why Ribs is the second line C for the future???

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YA i see Higgins as more of a Gainey type. Physical, fast, good offensive instincts, excellent defensively. Wait a minute........
Remind me again why Ribs is the second line C for the future???
65 points on his first full NHL season and team leader scorer.

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65 points on his first full NHL season and team leader scorer.
Remind me of how many point-less games he has in his first playoff season. Remind me of how well his line is doing. These are the games that count. He looks awfully puny out there.

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Let's not forget Ribeiro is still young. He only has some simple adjustments to make to his game. He has to be a little bit quicker at taking decisions and not looking for the perfect play. I hate when Ribs has the puck and there is obviously no chance of an offensive play and he has 3 other players covering him and he tries to fake them out. If he learns to pass a little eariler and shoot a little more, he willl greatly improve. He could also add more strength and muscle, but not to the point where it compromises his speed. Unless Gainey can get someone like Lang for him(perfect combination of strength and skill, the goals he scores are just amazing, he is able to knock a defender out of the play and then totally outfake a goalie-see goal against nashville in first game) and I know that can't happpen, we should keep Ribeiro and push him to be the best player possible.

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Remind me of how many point-less games he has in his first playoff season. Remind me of how well his line is doing. These are the games that count. He looks awfully puny out there.
Wow i see a lot of hate here. Ribs will need another big guy who can skate to play with him. Dagenais is not the answer. I still think that he can help this team with his skill. I'm not throwing the towel. He's young and its his first playoffs. Lecavalier had 0 points before yesterday...

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As soon as Ward comes back take Dagenais off that line and put Perreault or Ward up on that line, they need some energy and forechecking to help out.

I don't know if you noticed but Ryder seems to be playing both sides of the ice to cover up for Dagenais's lack of physical play and lack of knowledge of where to be on the ice...his play is putting Ryder out of position and hurting the line as a whole.

Take Dags of and insert someone else and both Ribs and Ryder will start to produce.

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Begins energy and physical play maybe a good fit for this line, he would be the first in on the forecheck and would help out in the defensive part of the game too.
CJ has to take Dags out.

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2/3 of a line what do you expect in the boston serie
he back check and played good diffence is a passer.
If there no one to pass or they dont score on those pass what can he do.
Koivu as 2 goal he as 2 goal Ryder ad as many chance as Zed but no goal no
pass for Ribs.
Koivu and Ribs 2 goal by series is what you should expect they are passer not goal scorer so if there winger dont score they wont produce.
Look at Kovy how he played to get the puck behind the net whit 1 are 2 diffence on is back power forward and pass the puck in front of the net and he can
score put Dag there Koivu line look like Ribs line a little better.
Kovy is the diffrence there we can't expect to have 2 Kovy but
if you could get a player that could win battle in corner pass
a little and have a decent scoring thouch on that line it whould
be night in day diffrence.

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What i see is that CJ continue to keep using Dagenais on LW with him. Dagenais is definitely the no.1 problem of this line. I have the solution....

Zednik-Koivu-Sundstrom















(joke)

Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev
Bulis-Ribs-Ryder (Speed of Bulis & will is needed on that line)
Sundstrom-Dowd-Begin (Sundstrom is a great defensive specialist too)
Perreault-Juneau-Dackell

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What i see is that CJ continue to keep using Dagenais on LW with him. Dagenais is definitely the no.1 problem of this line. I have the solution....

Zednik-Koivu-Sundstrom






Bulis is not the solution Ward but it will be just a patch a little better than
Dag.








(joke)

Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev
Bulis-Ribs-Ryder (Speed of Bulis & will is needed on that line)
Sundstrom-Dowd-Begin (Sundstrom is a great defensive specialist too)
Perreault-Juneau-Dackell

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look at him laughing afterwards. even if it wasnt a dive, he shouldve went directly into the locker after a hit that did that much damage. after the fight with koivu, i thought he would learn a little but hasnt. if he gets traded for a bigger but less proven player, i wouldnt mind.
I must admit I wouldn't mind if Ribs gets traded either. He's been given tons of chances by the team and all he turns out to be is one big embarrasment for the whole Montreal organization. Let me tell you this, there was not one single player in the dressing room who supported Rib's antics in game 4 of the Boston series. That was totally classless and showed Zero character on his part. This is so NOT BG and he will not tolerate it. Suffice it to say that Ribeiro's situation with the club right now is very fragile and very pivotal for him.

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losing tonight isnt the end of the world anyway. julien will have to changes things a little but winning 1 game in TB is all i expect. if this is as loud as it gets in TB, then when they play in montreal, the advantage should be pretty big.
Great point.... In any series you'd expecet to loss some games... look at colorado they've tried to buy the Cup this year the lost 1 in round 1 and already dropped a game against the sharks. If you can win your home games and steal one on the road then okay your gonna go seven games most probably but guess what.???? You've just progressed to the next round of the playoffs.... And so in regards to that statement.. montreal has dropped one already... lets hope this next game in Tampa is the one we steal on the road... otherwise i'm booking an appointment with my Doctor on Monday morning....

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He's still young and may have good upside. Unfortunately he will need a good 15 pounds on his slight frame. What he has to realise is the added weight over the summer will not affect his speed anyway(this is as fast as he's going to get)but the added pounds may help him be stronger on the puck and not as easily bounced.

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What I like is the way people is treating Ribeiro...it remember me Kovalev after game 4

Now is time to see if he can ajust himself to the pression of his coach who put him in the front of the cameras and the press. Time to step up Mike

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Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev
Bulis-Ribs-Ryder (Speed of Bulis & will is needed on that line)
Sundstrom-Dowd-Begin (Sundstrom is a great defensive specialist too)
Perreault-Juneau-Dackell

I like those lines, and I wouldn't even mind seeing Sundstrom on the 2nd unit and Bulis back on the line with Dowd and Begin. I agree with most of the posters here though, in that Dagenais has to sit. This series is gonna be all about speed (look to game 1 for the proof on that), and that is something Dags severely lacks. Sit him, and sit Langdon. Insert Dackell on the 4th line with Juneau and Perreault. If Sundstrom doesn't work out on the second line, switch him with Perreault.

Above all else, scratch Dags please! He's being embarrassed out there!

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Come on its is first playoff experience put Koivu on the second line
whit Dag and Ryder see what is prodoction whould be.
Ryder is not playing well he as 29 shot no goals.
I hope Ribs is traded this summer he gets 65p and no credit for it.
That way its going to be better for the fan and him we can just like one
good center .

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Originally Posted by EaGLE1

Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev
Bulis-Ribs-Ryder (Speed of Bulis & will is needed on that line)
Sundstrom-Dowd-Begin (Sundstrom is a great defensive specialist too)
Perreault-Juneau-Dackell




IMHO........TB would eat up that 4th line, the fact that TB is at home with last change means we can't have any holes that big in the lineup.......Ward being healthy would solve alot of issues..........the way I see it our D-pairings is the #1 concern.......Breezy is horrible and Franky is lost out there, whats worse is I can't think of any solution for the problem..........And about Ribs, well as Ryder scores Ribs goes if Ryder is in a slump ?........maybe Bulis would work on that line but last year Wardo had some magic with Ryder down on the farm?

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