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Is Phil Kessel the healthiest player of all-time?

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02-17-2017, 09:05 AM
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All that KFC makes you quite agile.

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02-17-2017, 09:27 AM
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Might surprise you, but people who play mostly on the perimeter might not be as accident prone as other players.

I'm actually a fan of Kessels, but he really does not go into board battles a lot and he's not usually the first guy in front of the net. Might help him a bit?

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02-17-2017, 09:58 AM
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Glenn Hall played every game of his first 8 seasons, 502 games straight, as a goalie and without ever wearing a mask

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02-17-2017, 10:24 AM
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Simmonds lack of games missed with how he plays is incredible. His only two injuries as a Flyer were from being hit in the legs by slapshots.

https://www.nhl.com/player/wayne-simmonds-8474190

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02-17-2017, 10:33 AM
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Mark Recchi didn't miss too many games in his long career and he was anything but a soft perimeter player. Just eyeballing his career stats and it seems he played about 1652 games and missed around 40 or 50.

He looked like a pin ball out there. Just knew how to roll off of hits and knew how to fall.


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02-17-2017, 10:46 AM
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He's built like a bowling ball. He's uninjurable.

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02-17-2017, 11:12 AM
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Mark Recchi didn't miss too many games in his long career and he was anything but a soft perimeter player. Just eyeballing his career stats and it seems he played about 1652 games and missed around 40 or 50.

He looked like a ping pong ball out there. Just knew how to roll off of hits and knew how to fall.
That's true, but you can't really compare Kessel to Recchi. Kessel will not go to the dirty areas and retrieve a puck for his teammates. Not even if there was a hamburger for free there.

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02-17-2017, 11:16 AM
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He's up there with the likes of Marleau, Thornton, Ovechkin, Cogliano, etc. for sure.

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02-17-2017, 11:55 AM
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How on earth has Cogliano never missed a game? I find that very crazy. I'm surprised no one has managed to catch him with a big enough check to keep him out for even just a game in decade.

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02-17-2017, 11:55 AM
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He was working construction on an off day. Guy's a tank.
And some people skip "leg day"...

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i'll never understand how he skates so fast

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Phil knows working out properly would just tire his body and increase the chance for injuries.

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I'd like someone, not me obviously, to make a compilation of data comparing hits thrown per game, longevity, and relative healthiness.

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02-17-2017, 12:13 PM
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The guys just a natural athlete.

I'll never understand why he isnt universally loved across the world - seems like a great dude

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02-17-2017, 12:19 PM
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Phil had 7 complete seasons plus 1 in progress. The other 3 seasons he played 70 games and I'm fairly sure one of the three 12 game injuries was actually cancer. How in the world has he played 18 minutes a game, often as the clear best player on his team for 850+ NHL games and only have two on injuries that bad enough to miss a game? I know you're gonna say it's because he avoids contact but come on, if it was that simple more people would do it.

Here's my theory

Phil the ultimate non-bender. He can accelerate and control the puck without waist bending his chest way out over the front of his skates. I think that neutral skating position and a low CG allows him to naturally roll off contact in any direction better than a guy like Malkin who bends at the waist more and has a higher CG. The force of Phils legendary weight is being applied at his control surfaces (blades) so he just has to shift his weight a little to slide off contact.

If you Sum the moments about the CG you'll see a waist bender needs to provide more force in the x direction just to remain standing. If you ever want to stop or skate at constant velocity without falling forward you need to stand up and bring you chest all the way back over your skates. This limits your agility because you always need a certain amount of forward acceleration to stay in good skating position.
That's some pretty interesting analysis. The default answer is "he actively avoids contact at all times" but what you said makes sense, at least intuitively.

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02-17-2017, 02:40 PM
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The guys just a natural athlete.

I'll never understand why he isnt universally loved across the world - seems like a great dude
He is a cool guy. Looks not unlike a lot of fans, kind of an everyman player. I like the guy a lot

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02-17-2017, 03:21 PM
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Mark Recchi didn't miss too many games in his long career and he was anything but a soft perimeter player. Just eyeballing his career stats and it seems he played about 1652 games and missed around 40 or 50.

He looked like a ping pong ball out there. Just knew how to roll off of hits and knew how to fall.
I think Recchi has the exact same upright skating posture advantage as Kessel where he can get his right over the top of his skates and just kindof bounce off contact. It aslo let's them use those short little pump strides because they don't need to press down in the ball of their foot just to stay upright.

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This being sarcastic? Wearing a carhartt hat and the dude next to him has a hammer with a pouch on..

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02-17-2017, 03:31 PM
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**** off with these moronic questions in thread titles. How do you want us to answer this? No, all he eats is hot dogs and his body fat percentage is way too high for consideration. Christ.
Lol, had to laugh as I read this rage post

Mostly because it's true, so many eye rolling threads

Thx for the legitimate chuckle!

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Nick Lidstrom missed 44 games in 20 seasons. 12 of those came from an ankle injury in his final season as a 42 year-old. The remainder were mostly resting him for the playoffs instead of playing him in meaningless games at the end of the season.

And that's playing between 23-28 minutes a night as the #1 D-man.

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02-17-2017, 03:42 PM
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Craziest to me has always been Dustin Brown, least amount of games he's played in a season since his sophomore year is 78. Pretty amazing for the style he plays

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Craziest to me has always been Dustin Brown, least amount of games he's played in a season since his sophomore year is 78. Pretty amazing for the style he plays
The funny thing about that is he's probably the number one player some fans are secretly hopping gets injured.

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Simmonds lack of games missed with how he plays is incredible. His only two injuries as a Flyer were from being hit in the legs by slapshots.

https://www.nhl.com/player/wayne-simmonds-8474190
All the more impressive since his legs are 99.4% skin and bone only.

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02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
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Steve Larmer should be the correct answer to this question.

He was renowned for his play along the boards and all of the dirty areas of the ice and was about to break Jarvis's iron man streak but "Dollar" Bill Wirtz and the Hawks organization screwed him over and he sat out over a contract dispute. The team tried to use the leverage of him keeping the streak alive to get him to agree to a cheaper deal and he called their bluff.

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