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Vermette Ejected For Slashing Ref (upd: suspended 10 games, upheld after appeal)

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02-17-2017, 09:41 AM
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ESPN Thinks Games Will Be Cut

Should make the officials feel good.

Look out Ducks...............
wait, what? ESPN covers hockey?

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02-17-2017, 10:09 AM
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wait, what? ESPN covers hockey?
Yep............I know, I know.

How about this opinion.................

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Doug Maclean ‏@DougMaclean 2h2 hours ago

Vermette suspension will be cut to 5 games.

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It was wrong what he did, but its hard to know the whole situation.

In all my years playing hockey, generally officials were good natured. That said there were a few even in men's leagues who would go out of their way to be dicks, they're human like players.

The linesman absolutely didn't follow procedure, and could've even said something. He got a small tap. I think a game or two would've been appropriate for a love tap. The eye scoop by Nyqvist should be the one actually 10+ games.

If its being reduced to 5 there has to be some evidence of the official not following protocol or acting out of character, which i've seen in games i've played since PeeWee level hockey. Officials should be reprimanded as well, much like police. However that never happens.

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suspension reduced to 5 games

at least now we can say nyquist got more games than vermette did. ducks better start practicing their PK because the refs are going to mess with them for the rest of the season

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02-17-2017, 11:55 AM
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suspension reduced to 5 games

at least now we can say nyquist got more games than vermette did. ducks better start practicing their PK because the refs are going to mess with them for the rest of the season
That will be something new and different. Ducks currently lead the league in majors and are 2nd in minor penalties averaging 11.22 PIM/game. I'm not sure how much worse it could get tbh

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02-17-2017, 12:16 PM
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Kinda of irritating Doug Maclean and the ESPN article are acting as if the suspension has already been reduced when Vermette's appeal hasn't even taken place yet.

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02-17-2017, 12:19 PM
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The league continues to be a joke - until they start handing out real punishments players will keep pushing the boundaries and engaging in unsafe behaviour

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02-17-2017, 12:25 PM
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What is the point of having a minimum suspension for this stuff if they just reduce the minimum punishment every time? Why not just change the rule to something like we will just subjectively decide on the length of suspension should this stuff happen?

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02-17-2017, 12:53 PM
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What is the point of having a minimum suspension for this stuff if they just reduce the minimum punishment every time? Why not just change the rule to something like we will just subjectively decide on the length of suspension should this stuff happen?
My feeling as well.

If it's reduced to 5 games it works out for my team, so there's that, but it's completely ridiculous to say the minimum punishment can't be less than x, and then going below that number anyway.

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My feeling as well.

If it's reduced to 5 games it works out for my team, so there's that, but it's completely ridiculous to say the minimum punishment can't be less than x, and then going below that number anyway.
Plus it saves a bunch of time.

Just use the same method the DOPS does, subjectively punish depending on how it may reflect on the leagues image while being cognizant of how it may impact revenue/profit.

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Plus it saves a bunch of time.

Just use the same method the DOPS does, subjectively punish depending on how it may reflect on the leagues image while being cognizant of how it may impact revenue/profit.
Consistently inconsistent. Good times.

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Kinda of irritating Doug Maclean and the ESPN article are acting as if the suspension has already been reduced when Vermette's appeal hasn't even taken place yet.
I was wondering why people seemed to be saying it's been reduced. If they reduce it they may as well throw out the rule and rewrite it. Abuse of officials and leaving the bench for a fight are two of the very clear black and white suspendable offenses, if they reverse the decision and reduce punishment they set precedent for any future suspensions they hand out. It sounds nice to say it will be reduced, but Bettman is a lawyer, he knows the can of worms he will open if he reduces it. Perhaps an independent arbitrator will sometime down the road, but Bettman initiating the reduction would kill any case he has against Widemans arbitrator who he fired for reducing one of these minimum suspensions.

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Kinda of irritating Doug Maclean and the ESPN article are acting as if the suspension has already been reduced when Vermette's appeal hasn't even taken place yet.
Agreed. He's stating it basically as fact, but that's not the case, right?

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02-17-2017, 02:28 PM
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pretty clearly a slash.
That and the officials don't wear pads like the players so a "tap" like that will hurt more than when they do it to another player in a scrum.

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02-17-2017, 02:34 PM
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This is the golden age of criminals (at least in Europe) so I'm not surprised that even NHL value victims less than wrongdoers.

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This is the golden age of criminals (at least in Europe) so I'm not surprised that even NHL value victims less than wrongdoers.
Oh, Lord. The "victim" in this case isn't getting better, physically or mentally, over whether Vermette's punishment is five instead of ten games.

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If they reduce this from 10 games it just shows what [email protected] show the NHL has become.

It's about time they handed out some proper bans not just a slap on the wrist (yes, I do know this isn't the DoPs, still the NHL, though).

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That and the officials don't wear pads like the players so a "tap" like that will hurt more than when they do it to another player in a scrum.
The officials do wear pads. They just aren't as heavy duty.

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That and the officials don't wear pads like the players so a "tap" like that will hurt more than when they do it to another player in a scrum.
To me, it's not even about the potential for injury with the slash, it's a matter of respect. For example, when I was a kid if I was arguing with my brother about something and pushed him my dad would have yelled at me but if I got in an argument with my mom and pushed her I would have been in a world of hurt. Would my mom have been more hurt than my brother from a little push? No, but that's not the point. The NHL simply cannot set the precedent that they will not back their officials by cutting the suspension by even 1 game. The automatic 10 game suspension is in place to serve as a warning to players that there's a zero tolerance policy when it comes to officials and altering that policy even once is a slippery slope.

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I don't think anybody wears pads on the back of their legs.

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I don't think anybody wears pads on the back of their legs.
The players do. They are not hard like the front but there is padding there. Think of it as wearing 1 side of a baking mitt on the back of your legs that would be the padding.

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suspension reduced to 5 games

at least now we can say nyquist got more games than vermette did. ducks better start practicing their PK because the refs are going to mess with them for the rest of the season
Lol if this isn't HF in a nutshell: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...3&postcount=53

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I have no idea what the reduction would be based on. The rules are black and white that something like this should be no less than 10 games.

The reduce this would be to reclassify it as a category III offense, which would be hilariously stupid.

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Deserved 20 games minimum.

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