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02-22-2017, 11:11 PM
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“We won’t make it before the trade deadline. The documentation is unbelievable. I have documentation with the league on a franchise agreement. I have documentation on a loan we are taking out with CitiBank. I’ve got my personal stuff, which all has to get in and get approved. If you saw the stack of documents you’d say it’s not a pretty picture,” Foley said on-air
Gonna guess most of it is paper, not paperless/electronic too.

How many trees will have died for this?

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Generally the NHL does not permit trades which involve future movement of players.
C & P from an old "can a team loan a player to another NHL team" thread:

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It is illegal to loan a player to another NHL team or make any player transaction dictating any future transactions concerning that player.

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9.4 A Member Club shall not loan a player to another Member Club. All transfers between Member Clubs (including transfers resulting from draft claims or purchase persuant to Section 16A or the Expansion Draft Regulations or as an equalization payment for a free agent resulting from negotiation or arbitration under Section 9A) shall be absolute and shall not contain any provision:
(a) for the return or other disposition of the rights to the services of that player at any future time; or

(b) restricting in any way the transferability of that player at any future time.

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The hypothetical proposal in this case wouldn't perfectly fall under that rule as it's not trading and later returning the same player. Rather it's a transfer of a different player at a future time after the trade date. MLB for example allows conditions like that in trades, at least where the future undetermined player could be one of multiple prospects.

Hence my choice of the word "generally". I'm confident the NHL wouldn't allow a trade like that, but I haven't seen explicit language barring it.

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The hypothetical proposal in this case wouldn't perfectly fall under that rule as it's not trading and later returning the same player. Rather it's a transfer of a different player at a future time after the trade date. MLB for example allows conditions like that in trades, at least where the future undetermined player could be one of multiple prospects.

Hence my choice of the word "generally". I'm confident the NHL wouldn't allow a trade like that, but I haven't seen explicit language barring it.
The wording "other disposition of the rights to the services of that player at any future time" would appear to prevent teams from signing a binding agreement on transfer of an identified player on a later date so the matter is settled.

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FWIW, it's real close to making the payment and GMGM is expected to participate in March GM meeting.

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FWIW, it's real close to making the payment and GMGM is expected to participate in March GM meeting.
I know it's not happening. But could you imagine the mess if the Vegas Group keeps delaying and delaying the payment to the NHL even longer then they currently are, and it turns out they actually don't have enough money and this is another ''John Spano tries to buy the Islanders'' situation?

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The wording "other disposition of the rights to the services of that player at any future time" would appear to prevent teams from signing a binding agreement on transfer of an identified player on a later date so the matter is settled.
I wouldn't read it that way due to the use of the term "that player". Implying it's referencing the opening section that "A member club shall not loan a player" since that's the only preceding place where player is mentioned. If instead of "that player" the sentence had said "a player" then I'd agree it likely covers futures trades.

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Initially, the plan was to give Las Vegas 48 hours with the protected list before the expansion draft. That is being increased to 72. At the GM meetings, the Golden Knights’ George McPhee let everyone know that once the lists are handed to him, it’s an auction for any unprotected player another team might want. This has outstanding potential.
Sounds like teams will have to protect their future not only from Vegas, but other teams with their exposed players.

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Sounds like teams will have to protect their future not only from Vegas, but other teams with their exposed players.
So if Team A wants a player off team B's available list McPhee will grab him and trade him to Team A?

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When this gets started it's going to be wonderfully chaotic.


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So if Team A wants a player off team B's available list McPhee will grab him and trade him to Team A?

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When this gets started it's going to be wonderfully chaotic.
Yes.

YMMV.

Future consideration trade.


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