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03-18-2017, 06:10 PM
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He has already made a ton of money in the KHL. Hopefully he wants a chance at the cup and takes a discount to stay here.
Laughable. Do other winning franchises get discount from guys like this? No. They just pay up. Everybody needs to stop with all the discount stuff. Let's be a first rate franchise and pay the guy if we want him. Top 3 forwards are very rare in the NHL and worth alot. Even if you overpay him, you'll be able to easily trade him for the next 3-4 seasons regardless.

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Give him the contract he feels right with, then offer him a position with the team after retiring a Hab. You know European Chief Scout(Pro & Amateur) or perhaps Asst. Coach NHL or Player Development Coach.

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03-18-2017, 07:45 PM
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I don't think he deserves more than 6x4, but he will likely get more, and we really have to pay him what he wants.

Ill be happy if he's resigned period, but even just watching him the past few weeks he looks less intense than he did at the start of the season.

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03-18-2017, 11:27 PM
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Give him the contract he feels right with, then offer him a position with the team after retiring a Hab. You know European Chief Scout(Pro & Amateur) or perhaps Asst. Coach NHL or Play er Development Coach.
Why? What does salary have to do with ability to spot talent ?

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Hopefully he doesn't otherwise he won't sign here. Look out for the Pens, Hawks or Leafs to sign him if that's the case.
Sick memes bro

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03-19-2017, 12:46 AM
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If some GM decides to overpay Radulov for what he's done this year, so be it. But the reality is that he's had one really good season and he's 31 years old.

I would like to see MB lock down Radu before he can test the market, but that's probably wishful thinking.

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03-19-2017, 09:12 AM
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Hopefully he doesn't otherwise he won't sign here. Look out for the Pens, Hawks or Leafs to sign him if that's the case.
As if the first 2 have anywhere close to the cap needed to sign him.

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03-19-2017, 09:36 AM
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As if the first 2 have anywhere close to the cap needed to sign him.
Pens are set to have 13.5M of cap space freed up, Washington will have 22.8M, which is about a million more than our 21.6M.
So...ya, those teams can find room just like us if they want him. Pittsburgh have less room than us but they don't have to worry about big contracts to renew. Kunitz can be let go, Sheary will be extended but he's just a sophomore so they can strong arm a cheap deal on him if they want.
Washington have bigger talent to extend. Kuznetsov, Shattenkirk, Alzner, Orlov, Oshie, Williams, a lot of them are coming off the books, they'll need to figure some things out. But if they want Radulov, they could definitely make room for him and let others walk. Ovechkin-Radulov-Kuznetsov, that's quite the Russian connection there.

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By now he may be thinking that he bet on the wrong horse.
Why would he think that?

The team is doing very well, top third of the league.

I don't think he picked the Habs because we were the number one Cup contender, and the reasons he DID pick Montreal have largely come through for him.

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03-19-2017, 07:26 PM
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Pens are set to have 13.5M of cap space freed up, Washington will have 22.8M, which is about a million more than our 21.6M.
So...ya, those teams can find room just like us if they want him. Pittsburgh have less room than us but they don't have to worry about big contracts to renew. Kunitz can be let go, Sheary will be extended but he's just a sophomore so they can strong arm a cheap deal on him if they want.
Washington have bigger talent to extend. Kuznetsov, Shattenkirk, Alzner, Orlov, Oshie, Williams, a lot of them are coming off the books, they'll need to figure some things out. But if they want Radulov, they could definitely make room for him and let others walk. Ovechkin-Radulov-Kuznetsov, that's quite the Russian connection there.
I really can't see Washington do it unlesss they let Shattenkirk walk which was something some analysts mentioned.

5x6m would be my offer at most. If a limited NTC makes it work, I may consider that to close it.

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This is the Cap era but there are still advantages for teams that have deep pockets and can spend beyond the Cap amount. Like the Habs.

Last year there were a number of top 6 forwards and they all signed up for 7 year terms and almost all for $6M per. This year it is just Radulov and maybe Oshie. So I could see Rads being able to get $6.5M plus.

Offer him 5 years at $6.5M Cap hit with pay of $10M, $7M, $5.5M, $5M and $5M ( I think this is a legal contract ). He gets $17M in the 1st 2 years and as the contract drops off it becomes easier to move him if needed. On a 4 year deal offer $10M, $8M, $5M and $5M so it averages $7.0M.
I'd never give 31 year old that kind of term. So, many of them backfire. Kings did that with Kopitar, Brown and Gabroik. Likely wrecked that franchise for next 5 years

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03-21-2017, 04:16 AM
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I'd never give 31 year old that kind of term. So, many of them backfire. Kings did that with Kopitar, Brown and Gabroik. Likely wrecked that franchise for next 5 years
I'd love if we wrecked this franchise with two Cups in four years?
You can't be serious?

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03-21-2017, 04:22 AM
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I'd love if we wrecked this franchise with two Cups in four years?
You can't be serious?
Didn't need to wreck franchise to win the cups

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Didn't need to wreck franchise to win the cups

I'm fairly certain the LA Kings franchise is far from wrecked.

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He looks pretty gassed right now. So before signing him, we should consider that.

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03-21-2017, 06:03 AM
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Pens are set to have 13.5M of cap space freed up, Washington will have 22.8M, which is about a million more than our 21.6M.
So...ya, those teams can find room just like us if they want him. Pittsburgh have less room than us but they don't have to worry about big contracts to renew. Kunitz can be let go, Sheary will be extended but he's just a sophomore so they can strong arm a cheap deal on him if they want.
Washington have bigger talent to extend. Kuznetsov, Shattenkirk, Alzner, Orlov, Oshie, Williams, a lot of them are coming off the books, they'll need to figure some things out. But if they want Radulov, they could definitely make room for him and let others walk. Ovechkin-Radulov-Kuznetsov, that's quite the Russian connection there.
According to CapFriendly, Montreal will have a little over 27M in cap space this summer. Their UFAs + RFAs + DD's retained salary + PAP's buyout + current space left on the cap = around 27.3M.

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According to CapFriendly, Montreal will have a little over 27M in cap space this summer. Their UFAs + RFAs + DD's retained salary + PAP's buyout + current space left on the cap = around 27.3M.
I just checked, it's 21.6......unless I'm missing something

Galchenyuk, Radulov and Markov should cost us around 16.5m$......leaves us 5m$ to spend plus whatever else we lose to LV and potentially trade away.

Hockeybuzz is showing me around 22.5m$

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The goalie has no chance on that release.

The way he released the puck was like he was starting a forehand to backhand deke.

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He looks pretty gassed right now. So before signing him, we should consider that.
Lets see how the playoffs go too!

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I just checked, it's 21.6......unless I'm missing something

Galchenyuk, Radulov and Markov should cost us around 16.5m$......leaves us 5m$ to spend plus whatever else we lose to LV and potentially trade away.

Hockeybuzz is showing me around 22.5m$
CapFriendly again:

They have it listed that we currently have 4.97M in cap space.

Radulov 5.75M (UFA)
Markov 5.75M (UFA)
Galchenyuk 2.8M (RFA)
King 1.95M (UFA)
Beaulieu 1M (RFA)
Flynn 950K (UFA)
Ott 800K (UFA)
Nesterov 725K (RFA)
Martinsen 640K (UFA)

Desharnais 700K (Retained salary)
Parenteau 1.33M (Buy out)

4.97M (current cap space)

All of this added up gives the Habs 27.365M

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CapFriendly again:

They have it listed that we currently have 4.97M in cap space.

Radulov 5.75M (UFA)
Markov 5.75M (UFA)
Galchenyuk 2.8M (RFA)
King 1.95M (UFA)
Beaulieu 1M (RFA)
Flynn 950K (UFA)
Ott 800K (UFA)
Nesterov 725K (RFA)
Martinsen 640K (UFA)

Desharnais 700K (Retained salary)
Parenteau 1.33M (Buy out)

4.97M (current cap space)

All of this added up gives the Habs 27.365M
$51,382,977 in committed contracts for the 2017/2018 season (16 players). Lets say the Salary Cap is $75M next year. That leaves $23.6M in Cap space to sign Galchenyuk ($6.5M +/-) , Radulov ($6.5M +/-), Beaulieu ($2.5M +/-), Markov ($5M +/-) as well as 5 more roster players (Lets say $0.75M AAV each) but the player LV selects may or may not have an impact on this (Pleky, Emelin). That puts the Habs at somewhere around $75.6M +/-. If the Habs are to get an upgrade at 2nd line center Pleky or Emelin have to be moved to clear up space. Or Markov is not resigned (or signed to a very team friendly deal).

Comes down to 3 players. Markov, Pleky, Emelin. Markov should be back as the offensive depth at D is limited. But if he's back, what will his contract be? Then, can MB trade Pleky and get an upgrade at 2nd line center?

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03-21-2017, 10:08 AM
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Current cap space is not the right number. This is prorated to the whole season - i.e. we could theoretically add a 4M guy today, and still be compliant with the cap at the end of the year, because we were slightly under the cap the whole year.

What you'd want to use is probably projected cap space and we're at around 500k.

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03-21-2017, 11:18 AM
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He looks pretty gassed right now. So before signing him, we should consider that.

He's looked gassed for the past 25 games, thank god for the 7 points against NJ. I don't get why he gets a pass around here. Yes he hustles, but he did nothing save a shootout goal in two very important games against Ottawa and down the stretch has not been impressive. He has looked a step behind, has been shaky in his own end, lots of neutral zone turnovers.

We have gotten two Radulovs. If we sign him long term for big bucks he better be first 40 games Rads because last 30 games Rads is not someone I would make a big investment in.

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