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03-10-2008, 02:55 PM
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How Montreal should fix their problems with getting outshot

They should take more low-percentage shots.

That will actually make them less effective in terms of winning games, but it should satisfy people who look at boxscores after the game and figure that if a team was significantly outshot then it must have been grossly dominated. Far too much importance is being afforded to the shot counter. While obviously better shot-differentials are good, they aren't always significant and must be taken into context.

The thing is, Montreal has a very shot-efficient offense (tied for 1st in goals, 12th in shots for) and a defense that allows low-percentage shots (26th in shots against, but 17th in goals against). Yes, they get outshot a lot, but they're still 20-14-5 in those games. If they outshoot the opposition, it either means they are desperately trying to overcome a big goal deficit or are really dominating the game -- as evidenced by a 16-7-2 records in these occasions.

Watch a Montreal game and count how many shots are taken from the blueline on the rush by the opposition, resulting in routine saves. Montreal rarely does that, preferring to dump in the corner, or pass the puck. Montreal is a fast passing team and may be considered guilty of overpassing and not making the simple play, but it's hard to argue with the results where it counts: lots of goals for.

A lot of teams shoot the puck a lot, either fishing for rebounds or simply because they don't know how to do any better. Montreal doesn't shoot as much, maybe doesn't shoot enough, but they pick their spots.

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They should take more low-percentage shots.

That will actually make them less effective in terms of winning games, but it should satisfy people who look at boxscores after the game and figure that if a team was significantly outshot then it must have been grossly dominated. Far too much importance is being afforded to the shot counter. While obviously better shot-differentials are good, they aren't always significant and must be taken into context.

The thing is, Montreal has a very shot-efficient offense (tied for 1st in goals, 12th in shots for) and a defense that allows low-percentage shots (26th in shots against, but 17th in goals against). Yes, they get outshot a lot, but they're still 20-14-5 in those games. If they outshoot the opposition, it either means they are desperately trying to overcome a big goal deficit or are really dominating the game -- as evidenced by a 16-7-2 records in these occasions.

Watch a Montreal game and count how many shots are taken from the blueline on the rush by the opposition, resulting in routine saves. Montreal rarely does that, preferring to dump in the corner, or pass the puck. Montreal is a fast passing team and may be considered guilty of overpassing and not making the simple play, but it's hard to argue with the results where it counts: lots of goals for.

A lot of teams shoot the puck a lot, either fishing for rebounds or simply because they don't know how to do any better. Montreal doesn't shoot as much, maybe doesn't shoot enough, but they pick their spots.

You make a good point, also there are a lot of NHL teams that score goals by throwing it on net and crashing for rebounds or going for screened point shots. The Habs are more of a patient puck control team that waits for a quality chance before shooting.

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Quality vs Quantity...the argument will never cease...

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Sometimes I wish they would just put it on net and get some bodies in front. But, hey they are 1st in the league in scoring so I can't really complain. Montreal plays quite a passive style in defending, they often leave teams to the outside and let them take low percentage shots. Kind of like playing the box during 5 on 5. Most of the good scoring chances opposing teams get are on the rush I find. This is usually when Montreal is trying to make a play on the rush and they give up the puck, resulting in a rush the other way. It has happened a lot lately, but it is something of minor concern. Montreal develops most of thier offense on the rush on 5 on 5, so they are bound to give up the puck once in a while.

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they pass up too many shots from the centre of the ice preferably with traffic and take too many shots from the side especially on the pp. I really worry about this come playoff time when defenses tighten up and only give you perimeter shots and very few odd man rushes. Im worried how our style will translate come playoff time,i don't think it will be particularly effective beyond the first round.

we need a far more consistent net presence and net drive to score effectively come playoff time imo. when our players go to the net currently they stand off to the side instead of standing in front of the goalies site lines. opposition goalies simply see far too many of our shots which isn't all that many anyhow.

your not going to score with a simple wrist shot from the point unless of course theres traffic, then suddenly that harmless shot becomes very dangerous.

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