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03-17-2017, 05:03 PM
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I hope KHL never goes anywhere near CHL, stoop down to that level.

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03-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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I hope KHL never goes anywhere near CHL, stoop down to that level.
Yeah, who needs extra revenue...

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03-24-2017, 12:09 PM
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Champions Hockey League has made an offer to KHL - two KHL teams in CHL playoff. KHL has time until end of April to respond.

The respond will be NO, but they can try

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03-25-2017, 12:31 AM
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maybe the non-play off teams can made a small tournament to decide thw two teams
to participate.

Could beintresting for them,An de pride of KHL is save,with the "excuse" that in case
of failure,the teams are not play-off quality.

In other view,the reguard is great in case of winning."we win with our worst teams"

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03-25-2017, 12:18 PM
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Yeah, who needs extra revenue...
Don't make me laugh

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03-25-2017, 01:10 PM
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KHL has expressed their opinion today. It was fast KHL is working even during weekend!


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03-25-2017, 01:58 PM
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Damn, this CHL versus KHL talks are even more heated than the ones I had with my ex.

I feel for the poor CHL. Dude, it's tough but you get over it after a while. Keep your head up and stop blaming yourself for what happened. Huh.

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04-09-2017, 07:16 AM
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I don't see any point in cooperation between CHL and KHL. Their ambitions are in completely different directions. The CHL wants to create profit for the clubs, while the KHL wants to create an empire.

Having a few European KHL clubs in CHL could increase the profit for the CHL clubs, but with Asian KHL clubs the costs would probably be too high.

And from KHL:s point of view, the CHL is only a rival. If a KHL team wins the CHL, the KHL wouldn't gain much from it, but if they lose, it would look bad for the KHL.
KHL should look at itself in more realistic way. Its a very good hockey and some of the clubs operate on top professional level. However most of KHL clubs can loose to other euro clubs easily, proved in preseason,Spengler etc. Second thing is that stories comming from some players who tried KHL are sometimes beyond understanable. Czech players are ussually reserved and diplomatic about that. But they recently shared some experiences, not in really negative way, and its very far from how KHL or its fans here describe itself or wants to see it self. Apart from cmpetition, CHL is not valuable for anybody. But reading here that KHLnegotiates from position of euro Super power is far from reality. There are money there, but it looks like a lot of players would rather play in NLA than there. If KHL considers CHL as its competitor, then they should probably thinks first, why their only wealthy foreign club is Jokerit and maybe Kunlun.

I personally dont care much about this issue because even travlling to Omsk might be financial nightmare for some teams which get to CHL by being succesfull in their domestic league. But pretending that KHL has somehow NHL importance in Europe is far from reality.

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04-09-2017, 07:38 AM
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KHL should look at itself in more realistic way. Its a very good hockey and some of the clubs operate on top professional level. However most of KHL clubs can loose to other euro clubs easily, proved in preseason,Spengler etc. Second thing is that stories comming from some players who tried KHL are sometimes beyond understanable. Czech players are ussually reserved and diplomatic about that. But they recently shared some experiences, not in really negative way, and its very far from how KHL or its fans here describe itself or wants to see it self. Apart from cmpetition, CHL is not valuable for anybody. But reading here that KHLnegotiates from position of euro Super power is far from reality. There are money there, but it looks like a lot of players would rather play in NLA than there. If KHL considers CHL as its competitor, then they should probably thinks first, why their only wealthy foreign club is Jokerit and maybe Kunlun.

I personally dont care much about this issue because even travlling to Omsk might be financial nightmare for some teams which get to CHL by being succesfull in their domestic league. But pretending that KHL has somehow NHL importance in Europe is far from reality.
I wouldn't classify Jokerit as being wealthy when their player budget is in the 10 million euro range and with almost 40 million euro losses in three seasons...

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And Kärpät turnover is nearly the same as Jokerit, while turning profit pretty mcuh every season. Neither that table or that fact has anything to do with the topic.

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What is muut kulut and palaajapalkat?

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What is muut kulut and palaajapalkat?
muutkulut - other expenses, so rest of budget
palaajapalkat - player salaries

It is from 15/16 season in Liiga. So Jokerit has 2,5 times bigger budget than best Liiga club. Jokerit is somewhere in the middle of KHL.

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Aaand...? Should we start posting NHL salary cap hits for some teams as well?

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muutkulut - other expenses, so rest of budget
palaajapalkat - player salaries

It is from 15/16 season in Liiga. So Jokerit has 2,5 times bigger budget than best Liiga club. Jokerit is somewhere in the middle of KHL.
That is remarkable.

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04-10-2017, 06:27 AM
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Russians (aka KHL) don not negotiate about their territory (clubs) and sovereignty (only KHL has a right to decide who represent the league in CHL). Plus negotiating partner (CHL) has to respect Russia´s (KHL) interests and try to reach a compromise (KHL has offered a compromise - one match between champions - but CHL is not interested). CHL has to understand these principles. If not, there wont be any cooperation among leagues.

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That is remarkable.
That what getting that 10+ million euro loss covered by a Russian sugar daddy does for you.

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