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2017 Predators = 2012 Kings?

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04-21-2017, 12:19 AM
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2017 Predators = 2012 Kings?

both low seeds that steamrolled their heavily favored opponent in 4 games

yes or no

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04-21-2017, 12:20 AM
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not a terrible comparison

the preds are a really good team that took a while to gel due to injuries and an earth shattering locker room change in the subban/weber swap

their first line and top-4 D are DOMINANT

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04-21-2017, 12:22 AM
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Fairly close due to their overall depth and energy.

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04-21-2017, 12:26 AM
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They should win the Conference. They are one team I expect to sweep my Oilers easily if they should ever meet. No answer to Arvidsson, Forsberg, Neal.

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Nope. They're the 2017 Predators. We'll see what that means.

No doubt in my mind they are a good team, and have as good a chance as any to win the West.

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The 2012 Kings were a great defensive team that magically found a way to start manufacturing offense after the trade deadline and into the playoffs. Nashville has had good core players for a while. With the Weber-Subban swap, their D (which has always been their strength) has just gotten more mobile and more skilled. I guess they're comparable in as much as they're lower-ranked seeds who 'upset' 1st round opponents, but I don't see much similar between the two beyond that.

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This Ducks fan has them coming out of the West. I'd love a Ducks/Preds WCF if both teams make it past the next round, but the past two playoff match ups with them don't inspire me with confidence. I just don't think we match up well at all.

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The Blues will challenge them a lot better.

Blues have more defensive defenceman and a better match up on offense.

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04-21-2017, 12:56 AM
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It's not a terrible comparison, but I'd say they're the 2012 Kings Lite.

Their underlying numbers down the stretch, while solid, aren't the absolutely ridiculous tear-a-hole-in-the-universe numbers that the Kings were putting up. So they're not as strong a team.

Also, they were predicted by many before the season started to make the cup. The Kings were expected to make the playoffs at best that year.

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At the same time it's only one series, only 4 wins.

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The difference is unlike Quick, Rinne isn't simply being a monster at stopping pucks, he's completely dictating and altering the game for his team's favour. Rinne dictated and controlled game 1. Rinne dictated game 2 and gave his team two goals the way he was playing the puck. Rinne's only game where it was team dictated was game 3, and even then Rinne was a monster and had insane sense and tracked and froze the puck like a beast. Quick never controlled or paced the game, he just simply sat back and stopped whatever shot came to him.

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The Blues will challenge them a lot better.

Blues have more defensive defenceman and a better match up on offense.
Blues do not have better match up on offense, they are a weak chance generating team. However they are one of the best chance suppression teams in the league, so I'd love to see that challenge for the Preds.

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The Blues will challenge them a lot better.

Blues have more defensive defenceman and a better match up on offense.

The Blues aren't even challenging Minnesota, they're just letting Jake Allen stop 10,000 shots a night.

I'll take Nashville's possession, mobility and one nasty nasty top line over anything STL has in front of a goalie begging for a regression to his mean.

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I say they'll make it to the CSF for sure. Maybe lose to Edmonton, but for sure beat Anaheim like they have last year.

Stanley Cup Champions? Possibly. Depending on who they're playing in the final or if they make it for that matter.

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both low seeds that steamrolled their heavily favored opponent in 4 games

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The Kings won in 5

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The Blues aren't even challenging Minnesota, they're just letting Jake Allen stop 10,000 shots a night.

I'll take Nashville's possession, mobility and one nasty nasty top line over anything STL has in front of a goalie begging for a regression to his mean.
Blues are a far better defensive team than the Hawks though, one of the best chance suppression teams in the league and are usually top 5-10 in high danger prevention (Last season was the only exception). I see Rinne facing less shots, but Allen also facing a lot less shots. Overall I'd take the league's deadliest defense mixed with extremely high octane powered forwards over an elite 2-way forward depth mixed with one of the best pure defensive teams in the league.

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The Kings won in 5
They steamrolled the Blues in 4 games.

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04-21-2017, 03:19 AM
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They should win the Conference. They are one team I expect to sweep my Oilers easily if they should ever meet. No answer to Arvidsson, Forsberg, Neal.
Bruh, Flames fans think Gaudreau is better than Forsberg, despite every advanced metrics proving otherwise and eye test they are similar, but I'd take Forsberg because he's a RHS sniper who is very good defensively.

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I think this is Anaheim's year.

They look unstoppable.

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Rinne is back, baby!!!

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They steamrolled the Blues in 4 games.
That was the second round.

Realistically, by that point, they were already the favorites to win.

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I think this is Anaheim's year.

They look unstoppable.
If by unstoppable you mean they had to face a no show Gaudreau, have Gibson play out of his mind, face a goalie that allowed 7 low danger goals, 3 entirely on him, and 2 terrible bounces, relying on the worst line change in history. Yeah totally unstoppable. I get Fowler and Vatanen are missing, but do you really think they're going to suddenly make the Ducks a "win it all" team especially with the way certain teams like Nashville has been playing?

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That was the second round.

Realistically, by that point, they were already the favorites to win.
From what I remember on social media, most pegged the Blues to win as they assumed they could shut down the Kings offense entirely as they were the best defensive team by far in the regular season.

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If by unstoppable you mean they had to face a no show Gaudreau, have Gibson play out of his mind, face a goalie that allowed 7 low danger goals, 3 entirely on him, and 2 terrible bounces, relying on the worst line change in history. Yeah totally unstoppable. I get Fowler and Vatanen are missing, but do you really think they're going to suddenly make the Ducks a "win it all" team especially with the way certain teams like Nashville has been playing?
Having a goalie play out of their mind is the easiest way to the cup. Being able to take advantage of other teams mistakes and win while being out played for long stretches shows tenacity and experience. Coming back in games where they were down 3 goals, or lost a two goal lead shows strength in the face of adversity. Silencing a massive crowd in unfriendly territory shows fearlessness. Playing well with your three top defensemen injured, two of them not even in the lineup, shows great depth. Your criticisms are beer league at best. People just don't like it when Anaheim wins, I get it.

That being said Nashville is a very strong team and I wouldn't be surprised to see them win a cup.

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As a fan of the team that just got their ass whopped by Nashville any west team should be afraid of them. They are a well oiled machine this year and are playing out of their minds.

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