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04-21-2017, 06:17 AM
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If the Sharks are eliminated in the 1st round, things are going to be very interesting indeed !

On a personal level, i'd like the Ducks to get eliminated in the 2nd round so we could really have some renewal in the West.

The Ducks have made it to the conference finals in 14/15.

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04-21-2017, 06:20 AM
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Preds to lose at this point. They crushed the Hawks.
Remember before the playoffs started EA's sim picked the Preds to go to the final and the whole world roasted them lol.

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Nashville's to lose imo
Seconded. I don't think anyone compares to them. They're beatable but to me they are the clear favorite.

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I never really saw a clear-cut favorite in the first place.

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04-21-2017, 07:52 AM
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Nashville really dislikes Anaheim! The Preds seem to think that the Ducks have several goons. If you think that you saw some real effort against Chicago, you will see more against Anaheim, if both teams get that far.

Hate, if properly channeled, is an awesome weapon. The Preds hate the Ducks and would love to knock them out of the playoffs again.
When two teams face back to back years, the team that lost the previous year wins a large portion of the time, especially if they're flat out more talented like Anaheim is.

Nashville being the favorites is a JOKE and represents yet another large misconception in the hockey world.

If a 2 seed sweeps, and an 8 seed sweeps, the 2 seed is the clear favorite because they both swept but the 2 seed was a much better team for an 82 game sample size instead of 4.

It really doesn't matter "who swept a better team".. there's really no point in comparing that. Does Nashville sweep the flames then if they played? Probably not.

The sweep itself is an anomaly and likely happens only 1 out of 100 simulations of the Hawks Preds series (our universe presents us with just 1 simulation), so you take the result "both Nashville and Anaheim won the series in dominating fashion" and pair it with which team is actually better at hockey, proven by 82+ game sample size, the Anaheim Ducks.

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04-21-2017, 08:03 AM
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When two teams face back to back years, the team that lost the previous year wins a large portion of the time, especially if they're flat out more talented like Anaheim is.

Nashville being the favorites is a JOKE and represents yet another large misconception in the hockey world.

If a 2 seed sweeps, and an 8 seed sweeps, the 2 seed is the clear favorite because they both swept but the 2 seed was a much better team for an 82 game sample size instead of 4.

It really doesn't matter "who swept a better team".. there's really no point in comparing that. Does Nashville sweep the flames then if they played? Probably not.

The sweep itself is an anomaly and likely happens only 1 out of 100 simulations of the Hawks Preds series (our universe presents us with just 1 simulation), so you take the result "both Nashville and Anaheim won the series in dominating fashion" and pair it with which team is actually better at hockey, proven by 82+ game sample size, the Anaheim Ducks.
Nashville isn't the favorite solely because the swept the 1 seed. They're the favorite because they're a damn good team. They're deep. They're goalie is hot. And they're playing well right now.

Anaheim is not playing well right now. Injuries are a legitimate excuse maybe, but it doesn't change the fact they really, really need to step up next round.

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I've had Pens over Preds since the beginning of the season and I'm standing by it now

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As of right now, Nashville is the clear favorite

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NSH/SJS in the West finals with the Preds avenging last season hopefully.
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04-21-2017, 08:23 AM
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Love how the stastny-less blues get overlooked.

Ducks and Preds seem like the top teams to me... but blues-preds would be a hell of a series, so we will see what happens.

I think it will come down to the matchups in the west... I can see the sharks beating the ducks, but i see the ducks whomping the oilers. The Preds vs Wild/Blues would be close no matter what, but of those three teams going up against the Sandmontheim Shoicks, I see a bunch of different outcomes. West beats east this year, in my crystal ball at least.
Throw in no Fabbri, no 2016 Brouwer and a godlike Jake Allen in net.

If the Blues can ignite their offense, no one's stopping them.

As for the Ducks, don't tell me people are using Calgary as a gauge as to how good they are. Any team in the West could have just as easily bounced them out of the playoffs.

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04-21-2017, 09:16 AM
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Anaheim Ducks will win Western Conference.

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04-21-2017, 09:31 AM
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lol no, Anaheim is not losing to anyone in the west.

Nashville - Rinne is no good and they lack the defensive depth of Anaheim. The Ducks already exposed one pretend goalie, they'll do it again to Rinne.

St Louis - Next to no offense & weak goalie, they aren't going anywhere.

Minnesota - regular season dandy, playoff dud. Golfing soon.

San Jose - Average playoff team using their experience advantage over the Oilers. Not only are the Sharks worse than the Ducks they don't match up well with them.

Oilers - Lack the depth and experience, the Ducks will rattle their cage and get under their skin.

The Ducks are a true and deep force that are strong in all positions. These other teams don't present any sort of serious threat to them really.
Yet, the Oilers held their own against Anaheim all year (3-2 Oilers win Regular Season Series), so I don't think you have all your facts straight. Edmonton is a much tougher team than the Flames. If they win, it'll be in Game 6 or 7. No way Anaheim sweeps the Oilers in 4-5 games.

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04-21-2017, 09:58 AM
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Its the Preds to lose. great D, Rinne is on fire, forwards are rolling

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04-21-2017, 10:31 AM
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I think it's anyone's now. All fairly even among the remaining teams.

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Now that the Hawks are out, I'm pulling for Edmonton. I just want to watch the world burn...
EDM vs. NSH Western final with NSH making it.

I feel like the Oilers have what it takes to beat SJS and ANA based on the season series and late season games against those teams.

NSH with Pekka Rinne are looking siiick at the moment. Great fan support too!

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The Sharks are a slower and bigger team. The problem? the Oilers have more size, more skill and are faster. They match up well against the Sharks and its a nightmare scenario for them to end up playing them in the first round. The Ducks have the size and the fast mobile defenseman that could run the show in the Oilers own end. Its a bad matchup for Edmonton, they can handle a cycling team like the Sharks but speed is their enemy. Their defense is mobile enough but not skilled enough to handle the Ducks who are loaded with talented Puck movers. Ducks in 5 easily.

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Let's see the ducks beat an actual good team in the playoffs before anointing them. They can beat the Winnipegs and calgarys of the world but that doesn't mean much.
I agree, there last couple of playoff opponents have been weak.

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04-21-2017, 12:23 PM
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When two teams face back to back years, the team that lost the previous year wins a large portion of the time, especially if they're flat out more talented like Anaheim is.

Nashville being the favorites is a JOKE and represents yet another large misconception in the hockey world.

If a 2 seed sweeps, and an 8 seed sweeps, the 2 seed is the clear favorite because they both swept but the 2 seed was a much better team for an 82 game sample size instead of 4.

It really doesn't matter "who swept a better team".. there's really no point in comparing that. Does Nashville sweep the flames then if they played? Probably not.

The sweep itself is an anomaly and likely happens only 1 out of 100 simulations of the Hawks Preds series (our universe presents us with just 1 simulation), so you take the result "both Nashville and Anaheim won the series in dominating fashion" and pair it with which team is actually better at hockey, proven by 82+ game sample size, the Anaheim Ducks.
If all things are equal it is 1/16 for a sweep. 2x2x2x2

Give a little edge to Chicago and its prob 1/20-25 not close to 1/100.

Nashville DOMINATED the Blackhawks (They scored 3 goals in 4 games).
Ducks got outplayed by the Flames and won what 4, 1 goal games? Won by getting fluke bounces and ref help to be honest.

Flames were also by far the worst team in the Playoffs.

Also, I doubt the Ducks beat either of Oilers or Sharks based off there previous series play.

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The Sharks are a slower and bigger team. The problem? the Oilers have more size, more skill and are faster. They match up well against the Sharks and its a nightmare scenario for them to end up playing them in the first round. The Ducks have the size and the fast mobile defenseman that could run the show in the Oilers own end. Its a bad matchup for Edmonton, they can handle a cycling team like the Sharks but speed is their enemy. Their defense is mobile enough but not skilled enough to handle the Ducks who are loaded with talented Puck movers. Ducks in 5 easily.
Fowler and Vatanen have been injured. Who knows how well they will be when they come back. Don't see the Ducks winning so easily in the 2nd round if at all.

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If all things are equal it is 1/16 for a sweep. 2x2x2x2

Give a little edge to Chicago and its prob 1/20-25 not close to 1/100.

Nashville DOMINATED the Blackhawks (They scored 3 goals in 4 games).
Ducks got outplayed by the Flames and won what 4, 1 goal games? Won by getting fluke bounces and ref help to be honest.

Flames were also by far the worst team in the Playoffs.

Also, I doubt the Ducks beat either of Oilers or Sharks based off there previous series play.
You mean like having a game with the Ducks getting no power plays? Flames got some help from the refs. Let's not act like the refs favored the Ducks.

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When two teams face back to back years, the team that lost the previous year wins a large portion of the time, especially if they're flat out more talented like Anaheim is.

Nashville being the favorites is a JOKE and represents yet another large misconception in the hockey world.

If a 2 seed sweeps, and an 8 seed sweeps, the 2 seed is the clear favorite because they both swept but the 2 seed was a much better team for an 82 game sample size instead of 4.

It really doesn't matter "who swept a better team".. there's really no point in comparing that. Does Nashville sweep the flames then if they played? Probably not.

The sweep itself is an anomaly and likely happens only 1 out of 100 simulations of the Hawks Preds series (our universe presents us with just 1 simulation), so you take the result "both Nashville and Anaheim won the series in dominating fashion" and pair it with which team is actually better at hockey, proven by 82+ game sample size, the Anaheim Ducks.
Let's not act like the Predators are some random 8th seed team, if our overtime wasn't god awful and Forsberg scores on half the shots that hit the post from Oct-Dec we're suddenly right behind the hawks, Hell we were fighting with the Blues for their spot for the majority of March and April.

If Neal hadn't gotten slashed on the wrists earlier in the year we probably have three 30 goal scorers this season. Nashville was predicted to go far in the pre-season and haven't played to their potential as a whole until recently, this is still a team with 12 10 goal scorers, two more than mighty Pittsburgh and 5 more than the team we just beat. We have great depth, a goalie that's hot and a great attitude that could take us pretty far. I wouldn't say that it's a joke if someone had Nashville as favorites from the west.


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i still got san jose coming out of the west. i think nashville is the only team that can match them.

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As i was watching Nashville Chicago the other night in Nashville, i got the sense that the Preds are this years cinderella story... I don't know why, maybe it was the electric atmosphere there that you could experience sitting on the coach at home but... it felt like something special was happening there.

I think Nashville will represent the West this year... I'm not gonna say the win the Stanley Cup tho cuz most times in Cinderella stories like This, That team doesn't win but as a Jets fan, as a hockey fan in General... I'm on the Nashville Bandwagon, just get the sense that they are the team to beat this year in the WEST.

I guess, perhaps the only issue might be they are probably gonna have an extended break here and sometimes that is good but sometimes it's not.

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i still got san jose coming out of the west. i think nashville is the only team that can match them.
I would say there is no issue with the Sharks coming out of the West except they have to win 2 games, and one in a hostile environment where the Oilers have an excellent home record. If they win they will be beat up and tired and have to face a fresh team on the other side in Anaheim.

Not great odds.

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A good question would be what are the Refs going to do if it is a Sharks and Ducks series.

Because of there obvious bias to California teams they will be confused. Will there be no penalties, or will they call everything?

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A good question would be what are the Refs going to do if it is a Sharks and Ducks series.

Because of there obvious bias to California teams they will be confused. Will there be no penalties, or will they call everything?
The bias is your posting. Ducks had a game without a power play while the Flames had 5. If refs have bias in favor of California teams that never would of happend.

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