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04-21-2017, 09:49 AM
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Wow. This is kinda crazy how bad this turned out. He hired a GM with SERIOUS character flaws, which some of us had been hearing. That press conference backed that up. The GM goes on to hire an incompetent coach who didn't even communicate with his players.

What a complete disaster.
Didn't Pat Lafontaine hire Murray? I want to reiterate from my other post that Pegula has repeatedly stated that they want to be hands off owners. I think he is realizing that With Lafontaine bringing in Murray and Nolan, Murray bringing in Bylsma and then Russ Brandon getting Rex Ryan hired, that his uber hands-off approach didn't work.

I agree that it's a total disaster. I also agree that having a super-meddling owner would be bad. But Pegula was likely too laissez faire and it resulted in an undisciplined organizational structure. It starts with him and moves down. As the head boss, he needs to make sure, at least, that the best people are brought in and that the commitment to winning flows through the organization.


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Even after an awful press conference I'm still able to come away more upset with Harrington than Pegula.
Terry has never been the best public speaker. This press conference was probably the first time that I got a hint that Pegula was P.O'd. He seemed mad that he has to go through this again, especially since he just had to do this with the Bills.

I thought his presser was good -- he essentially answered why those two were fired, there was sub-par results, communication, discipline, accountability and especially a sub-par roster.

Harrington, I expect nothing less.

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I wonder if they're going to model the Bills and have coach report directly to ownership now.
I sure hope not

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Came away from the presser with the realization that the ownership is really making looking Buffalo look unattractive for players and coaches, and the media really makes Buffalo like an unattractive destination for players and coaches.

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Pegula taking the reigns has me scared ****less. He has zero expertise in searching for and hiring someone to run a hockey team. Zero.
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5.) This may be a long few years if TP is going to have say in things.

I have the opposite take. How long has he been an owner now? Has he not gained any experience during that time? How else does one gain experience except by doing that which one lacks experience?

I see it as, when he bought the team, the proverbial "everybody" told him he needed to surround himself with smart "hockey people" and let them make the big decisions on how to run the team. He seems to feel like he has been too hands off, and I think he's fed up and basically saying, "I tried it your way and it was a disaster. Now we do things my way."

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Totally disagree. The Pegulas essentially allowed Russ Brandon to hire Rex Ryan, Laf to hire Ted Nolan and the Murray to extend him, fire him, and then hire Dan Bylsma.

I think these moves have pissed off the Pegulas. While he does not have extensive hockey experience, he is definitely going to make a decision that he can own up to and live with. I give him credit for that. He's not going to be swayed by an "advisor" saying yeah sign off on Bylsma, Rex Ryan, Ted Nolan, etc.
exactly this.

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I still can't get over what a waste that was. The media can't complain about the length if they aren't going to ask relevant questions.

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He was asked, sort of. Doesn't seem like he's going with a hockey czar but wants a strong, experienced GM.
Not my interpretation. I think they are going hire the mos experienced guy and decide from there whether they need a GM or GM-President.

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That press conference did not back up that Murray had "SERIOUS" character flaws.
The main thing he mentioned as to why he was fired was character.

You're right in that I added the serious part. I've heard things from multiple people about it, and the fact that character was the main reasoning behind the fire supports that.

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I still can't get over what a waste that was. The media can't complain about the length if they aren't going to ask relevant questions.
But we need to complain about Terry and show that we were right about the tank and he was wrong!

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I'm expecting Lombardi to be named GM within a week.

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Guys, it's a good thing it was short. Pegula is not good at these. I was relieved it was short and scripted.

If he wasn't announcing a Hockey Ops guy there was no reason for him to speak.

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Didn't Pat Lafontaine hire Murray? I want to reiterate from my other post that Pegula has repeatedly stated that they want to be hands off owners. I think he is realizing that With Lafontaine bringing in Murray and Nolan, Murray bringing in Bylsma and then Russ Brandon getting Rex Ryan hired, that his uber hands-off approach didn't work.
You are correct. He hired Lafontaine who hired Murray who hired Bylsma.

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Nothing unexpected really. Terry doesn't seem like the type to throw people under the bus and he handled it with class, imho. Not sure which reporter was trying to get TP to admit that they intentionally tanked, but what an ass. The past is the past, and the team wasn't carrying a "loser mentality" into this season... complete BS.

Whether or not DL was interviewed yesterday (which would be a logical choice, again imho) doesn't matter to me at all. TP shouldn't confirm or deny any interviews until the new GM is chosen.

Not sure what TBN was expecting... TP to start crying and say "We shouldn't have tried to lose, it was all a big mistake and now karma has caught up with us... Pullleaze forgive us Buffalo media!"

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I still can't get over what a waste that was. The media can't complain about the length if they aren't going to ask relevant questions.
Horribly done press conference, half of it is on TP, the other half is on our horrible media.

I feel no better after listening.

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All of them. This was short and scripted.
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I still can't get over what a waste that was. The media can't complain about the length if they aren't going to ask relevant questions.
Sabre, this post ^.

Duh, his opening statement was pretty scripted. The team just made a major shift, his opening statement is going to be scripted.

The rest of the presser resulted in the media asking horrid questions for the most part. Out of the 10-15 questions that were asked, what, maybe 2 or 3 of them were relevant?

I mean hell, Harrington asked them about the tank. Jesus. He was repeatedly asked about Doug Whaley. Come on. The media does this to themselves. I actually give Paul Hamilton credit because he asked a completely legitimate question regarding who is handling the hockey operations until a new GM and coach are in place.

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Discipline and character don't create success nor do they win championships. Having high end talent that is harnessed and focused is what winning comes from. Discipline, leadership, and systems can harness talent.

What the Sabres lack is talent. Whether you believe the team lacked GM talent, coaching talent, or player talent is up to you but the idea that simply having more structure in the organization would have produced different results is not something I subscribe to.

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communication, structure, discipline, character...

And the one guy you keep is Doug Whaley.

Sounds like buzzword hell, I'll skip listening to this.

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Ummm, wow. Didn't they hire a media specialist with the Bills or something? Might need another one.

It must be reallllllly easy to make $ in fracking.

It's hard to imagine any scenario where he hires the right people. The "faith-based coach" line from a few months ago was cringe-worthy.

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I wonder if they're going to model the Bills and have coach report directly to ownership now.
Oh God. Bills are a flaming mess where it's Game of Thrones every day.

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So this was indeed personality driven. I like Tim Murray's personality much more than I like our owners personalities. Seems fickle. Billionaires that think they are better people than those around them. Gross.
If he thought he was "better", then why was he apparently pretty hands off?

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Did we really get questions about firing Doug ****ing Whaley in a Sabres press conference? I mean I know he owns both teams but what the hell are these people doing? 90% of this board would have asked more relevant questions.

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Horribly done press conference, half of it is on TP, the other half is on our horrible media.

I feel no better after listening.
Yeah I agree. He just seems to be bumbling around with deep pockets. I have news for all Sabres fans...the more he is involved in the decisions going foward and with operations, the more screwed we are. Hopefully he hires a competent president like Lombardi and hand over the keys and walk away. That's the only way Buffalo will become a top contender again.

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Ummm, wow. Didn't they hire a media specialist with the Bills or something? Might need another one.

It must be reallllllly easy to make $ in fracking.

It's hard to imagine any scenario where he hires the right people. The "faith-based coach" line from a few months ago was cringe-worthy.
Or it has nothing to do with public speaking and learning a new business in your mid fifties?

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So if Pegula is to be believed, GMTM hired Bylsma and Pegula didn't have much/any input into that.

WOW! The mystique of invincibility that GMTM once enjoyed has been slowly tarnishing for a while now...and now you tell me he thought Bylsma was a good coaching hire?

Holy crap. GMTM would have been gone in due course, this just accelerates that.

Byslma should have been gone a while ago...so let's just pray to God the next hires are better.

This talk of bringing in the LA Duo sound fantastic. We can only hope.

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Discipline and character don't create success nor do they win championships. Having high end talent that is harnessed and focused is what winning comes from. Discipline, leadership, and systems can harness talent.

What the Sabres lack is talent. Whether you believe the team lacked GM talent, coaching talent, or player talent is up to you but the idea that simply having more structure in the organization would have produced different results is not something I subscribe to.
The Sabres have talent. The roster is not perfect by any means. The defense needs an overhaul but saying the Sabres lack talent is naive. We have a strong young core, Eichel, Reinhart, Risto, Nylander, Guhle, ROR and a top 10 pick this year.

This team was horribly structured from everything roster make up, to coaches, to system and everything inbetween. I totally agree, talent is the most important marker of success. But having talent, discipline, character and harnessing that into a winning culture is the most important.

For example, look at the Patriots. I remember I listened to the John Murphy show one day, Donald Jones had stated that when he went to the Pats everyone believed in the same message, the same structure to achieve the same goal, a Super Bowl.

Building that type of environment is kind of tough because you can't really build that without winning, first. But getting a GM, coach and players who are talent enough to build that type of environment is a good place to start.

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