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04-18-2017, 06:36 PM
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Jets were 10th in the NHL in 2014/15 in GF60 at 5v4.

Jets were 10th in the NHL in 2014/15 in GA60 at 4v5.

So, about top-10 in both PP and PK under Maurice in 2014/15. Main problem was that they also led the league in SH time.
and that was on Maurice.

Other than that 1 year how have Maurice's special teams been?
AFAIK there has been some up and down but mostly down.

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and that was on Maurice.

Other than that 1 year how have Maurice's special teams been?
AFAIK there has been some up and down but mostly down.
I think Maurice overuses vets in key PP roles, which reduces the effectiveness. Stuart and bad goaltending have really hampered the PK. Lack of accountability for the vets has led to too many undisciplined penalties. To me, a lot of the problem is catering too much to vets.

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04-18-2017, 06:49 PM
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I think Maurice overuses vets in key PP roles, which reduces the effectiveness. Stuart and bad goaltending have really hampered the PK. Lack of accountability for the vets has led to too many undisciplined penalties. To me, a lot of the problem is catering too much to vets.
No argument but how is that not coaching?

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04-18-2017, 07:05 PM
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No argument but how is that not coaching?
It is coaching, and also ineffective players.

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04-18-2017, 07:53 PM
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It is coaching, and also ineffective players.
So ....., instead of firing Maurice the way for the GM to get the most from his coach is just to surround him with a roster full of nothing but effective players. Easy for a man of Chevy's calibre.

Yeah, I agree. It is all part of PMo's poor use of the players he is given. All coaches tend to favour vets but he carries it to new heights. Or is that depths.

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04-20-2017, 03:02 AM
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I wrote down a mock draft of Vegas's draft choices, and I am interested to see how it actually unfolds. I still believe they will want entry level contracts from us.

I still look at Carolina as a trading partner to better ourselves for the draft. They do not have enough d-men to expose. They also need forward help. So I would try to deal with them.

Enstrom would be a good veteran addition to the Canes. Protecting Hanifin from too much responsibility. They would like Dano too, I suspect. The Jets can't protect enough players. Rather than lose them, deal them. Enstrom and Dano for Hayden Fleury and a 3rd. We get a protected defenseman, an some young depth on the left side, another team Canada grad.

After signing Thorburn to a 2 way, giving us enough forwards to expose, we only lose Matthias.

But we want to deal with Vegas, who needs to move some players they draft.
So we acquire Raanta, and Leipsic (drafted from Leafs) for Comrie, Kostalek, and a 2nd.

We now have a 1A, 1B goalie tandem moving forward. Vegas gets 2 young prospects and a draft pick (2nd seems standard for a 1B goalie).

Acquire Derrick Poiliot for Lodge and our 3rd, which we acquired

Sign Weircioch as a PK defenseman.

Hellebuyck
Raanta

Morrissey-Trouba
Fleury/Wiercioch-Buff
Pouliot-Myers
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Stuart, (Wiercioch)

Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Laine
Connor-Lowry-Armia
Copp-Petan-Leipsic
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Tanev, (F.A./Thor)

We have Roslovic play top minutes on the Moose, until injury summons him. Harkins develops. Spacek and Foley too. De Leo and Lemieux get looks.

Poolman gets time to develop. Nogier gets a year to grow, as a replacement for Myers. Melchiori adds depth.

Younger, more mobile and physical on defense, younger but more mature at forward.

Stronger in net.

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I wrote down a mock draft of Vegas's draft choices, and I am interested to see how it actually unfolds. I still believe they will want entry level contracts from us.

I still look at Carolina as a trading partner to better ourselves for the draft. They do not have enough d-men to expose. They also need forward help. So I would try to deal with them.

Enstrom would be a good veteran addition to the Canes. Protecting Hanifin from too much responsibility. They would like Dano too, I suspect. The Jets can't protect enough players. Rather than lose them, deal them. Enstrom and Dano for Hayden Fleury and a 3rd. We get a protected defenseman, an some young depth on the left side, another team Canada grad.

After signing Thorburn to a 2 way, giving us enough forwards to expose, we only lose Matthias.

But we want to deal with Vegas, who needs to move some players they draft.
So we acquire Raanta, and Leipsic (drafted from Leafs) for Comrie, Kostalek, and a 2nd.

We now have a 1A, 1B goalie tandem moving forward. Vegas gets 2 young prospects and a draft pick (2nd seems standard for a 1B goalie).

Acquire Derrick Poiliot for Lodge and our 3rd, which we acquired

Sign Weircioch as a PK defenseman.

Hellebuyck
Raanta

Morrissey-Trouba
Fleury/Wiercioch-Buff
Pouliot-Myers
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Stuart, (Wiercioch)

Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Laine
Connor-Lowry-Armia
Copp-Petan-Leipsic
---------------------------------
Tanev, (F.A./Thor)

We have Roslovic play top minutes on the Moose, until injury summons him. Harkins develops. Spacek and Foley too. De Leo and Lemieux get looks.

Poolman gets time to develop. Nogier gets a year to grow, as a replacement for Myers. Melchiori adds depth.

Younger, more mobile and physical on defense, younger but more mature at forward.

Stronger in net.
Avs would be crazy not to resign him

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Wonder if Jets are interested?

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Don't know if this player qualifies, but if Chevy can add a 4/5 tweener LHD without giving up any assets, that would be a home run.

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I like the idea of getting halak, vet goalie with playoff experience, however heard he's not a good guy to have in the locker room

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I think Maurice overuses vets in key PP roles, which reduces the effectiveness. Stuart and bad goaltending have really hampered the PK. Lack of accountability for the vets has led to too many undisciplined penalties. To me, a lot of the problem is catering too much to vets.
Our vets were more successful on the PP then our youth

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04-21-2017, 01:43 PM
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Our vets were more successful on the PP then our youth
Still think the roles were wrong.

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04-21-2017, 02:18 PM
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In my post in one of the "What do the Jets need to do this off season" threads I mentioned him as D target. I don't have high hopes of getting him though.

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Our vets were more successful on the PP then our youth
They did get the first 100 seconds or so most of the time.

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What about D Raddysh from Erie. RHS but went undrafted. Racking up points like crazy in D+1

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What about D Raddysh from Erie. RHS but went undrafted. Racking up points like crazy in D+1

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Could we sign him as a free agent, or would we still have to draft him this year?

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Could we sign him as a free agent, or would we still have to draft him this year?
He is no longer eligible to be drafted. He could be signed as a UFA at any time.

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What about D Raddysh from Erie. RHS but went undrafted. Racking up points like crazy in D+1

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What am I missing with this prospect? He's a UFA as a 21 year old.

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What am I missing with this prospect? He's a UFA as a 21 year old.
Kichton 2.0?

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Kichton 2.0?
Not if he can skate.

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What am I missing with this prospect? He's a UFA as a 21 year old.
There's 5-15 players a year that "break out" as big impact players as 20 year olds in the CHL. Does not mean anything with regards to pro potential as they are playing with younger players. Examples that I can remember include Dane Fox and Maxime Boisclaire. There's hundreds of others I just don't feel like looking for them at the moment.

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Or then you have guys like Dale Derkatch who probably should have been given a try at the NHL level because they were just that good. Despite size.
Look at this stat line for an 18 year old draft year:
67 games played
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95 assists
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Wow.

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