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03-17-2008, 11:21 PM
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Ciconne: Halak for T. Ruutu

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Ciconne just said that Gainey tried to acquire T. Ruutu, Chicago wanted Halak, Montreal said no. He's an agent so I don't think he's making this up and it would be in line with what Gainey meant when he said that there was definite interest throughout the league.

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03-17-2008, 11:22 PM
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Well, I would love to have Ruutu...but right now, the value of Halak is rising. So, in long term, it's gonna be useful for us if we want to trade Halak!

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Ruutu might have been inspired with Koivu, but he's still injury prone. One hell of a player and pest though.

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Interesting...I would have probably made this deal.

I have speculated that Chicago would be interested in Halak. Seems like a great fit.

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03-17-2008, 11:51 PM
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I used to like Ruutu a lot but ... wow did this guy bust or what! Only 26 points this year?

Too bad the injuries killed his career.

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03-17-2008, 11:58 PM
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i think gainey did not make this thread because halak was in a highest deal for a better player such as hossa and higgins at the time.. i consider rutuu a good impact player but not such as an insurging higgins.

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From La Zone(video will be up on src website I think):

Ciconne just said that Gainey tried to acquire T. Ruutu, Chicago wanted Halak, Montreal said no. He's an agent so I don't think he's making this up and it would be in line with what Gainey meant when he said that there was definite interest throughout the league.
I'm a big fan of Tuomo Ruutu, and I think Halak would have been a good deal to acquire him.

That would require Cristobal Huet not to have been traded, however, because a Price/Danis tandem would be a very silly move heading into the playoffs.

But Ruutu would have been a great pick up.

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03-18-2008, 12:08 AM
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I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Ruutu, but Halak with Price look to be a strong tandem for years to come.

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I used to like Ruutu a lot but ... wow did this guy bust or what! Only 26 points this year?

Too bad the injuries killed his career.
5 points in 9 games with the Canes and many big hits along the way. I would not say his carrer is dead yet, ye was stuck in Chicago country club with bad players and had many injuries.

I think Bob was wise to say no as goalies are more important and Halak has a nice upside. Too bad we could not flip a 2nd pick and a guy like D'agostini for him.

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Good, Ruutu is as overrated as they get.

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interesting deal. Doubt I would have done it but still interesting.

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I find it hard to believe that Chicago would flip Ruutu for Halak.


Overall, I think they made a better move trading him for Andrew Ladd. A change of scenery might be great for Ladd, and I think he compliments a lot of the other young forwards in Chicago quite well.

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03-18-2008, 12:26 AM
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5 points in 9 games with the Canes and many big hits along the way. I would not say his carrer is dead yet, ye was stuck in Chicago country club with bad players and had many injuries.

I think Bob was wise to say no as goalies are more important and Halak has a nice upside. Too bad we could not flip a 2nd pick and a guy like D'agostini for him.
Ruutu is a pretty decent player ( a good third liner ).. but he's not what everyone thought he was after he overachieved in his rookie season. He's probably a 40 PTS third liner who can play a physical game.

However, the bad players you speak of.. huh?

Chicago has a crapload of talent up front .. it's basically their shutdown lines, defense, and goaltending that has been suspect this season.

Also, the Hawks biggest problem is injuries. Most of their top-guns have spent some time on the IR this season.. and in some cases half the season.

Havlat missed over the half the season. Williams also missed over half the season. Those two have combined for 57 PTS in 69 GP.. Jonathan Toews also missed significant time .. so if he played with bad players.. it's because he couldnt even get top-line minutes when players were hurt.

Patrick Sharp has been great all season long, same with Lang. Patrick Kane has been awesome too. If healthy, they'd of had 6 forwards score 50 + PTS.

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03-18-2008, 12:32 AM
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If they want Halak they can give us Toews.

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If they want Halak they can give us Toews.
A good goalie is worth more than that... great that we kept him!

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Yeah I'm glad Gainey didnt bite the bullet (is that how the expression goes?)

I probably would have made deal but when I think of the monstrous talent Halak possesses, I'd think we can get more out of him eventually.

Still, the market for goalies is pretty weak and T. Ruutu IMO still has a lot of upside. He would fit well in our team since he won't be the go-to guy and can just work on getting some sort of rhythm back. He has a lot of speed and tenacity. Oh well.

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After the trade deadline I had suggested my brother-in-law that we should have traded Huet for Ruutu. I wonder if this could have been worked out.

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03-18-2008, 02:00 AM
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Ruutu has all the parts but he never produces...

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03-18-2008, 03:52 AM
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Tuomo Ruutu would be a perfect fit for the Habs IMO. I love how the guy plays. Reminds me a bit of a young Koivu with better size. Too bad, because of the way he plays, he is injury prone. I would still trade Halak for him. It's been a while since we have a good forward with size, grit and offensive skills. Who's the last one, Corson? Some says that he's done, but don't forget that the guy is only 25.

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03-18-2008, 07:36 AM
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The guy hits hard, but is injury prone, so tough call, I say Halaks value is much greater then ladds, he could be a starter in the NHL for years to come.

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03-18-2008, 07:41 AM
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I would keep Halak...he should have a good year next season. He's the perfect trade bait to move up in draft to get a big name at home draft. Be good for the fans. Halak, whomever we pick this year in the first round to move up in '09 draft. Taveres is untouchable, but maybe Hedman?

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03-18-2008, 07:56 AM
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Any Ruutu isnt worth a wooden nickel.
Both of them are a disgrace to the league and their fans

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03-18-2008, 08:00 AM
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Havlat for Halak might've been the only consideration I'd give, but not for Ruutu. If I want an injury prone player, I might as well get one that produces when healthy.

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I mentioned at the deadline that this is one guy I would have liked us to aquire, but I'm not sure I'd have done a straight Ruutu/Halak swap. I find people often talk about the potential that this guy had and what expectations people used to place on him. What good is that? His scoring took a knock this year, but that potential hasn't vanished into the ether, never to be recovered. He still could find some of that game again. But his potential (now or then) isn't why I wanted him on the team.

He is a guy who will work hard and hit hard and he seemed like the kind of guy we could use on our third line. He adds the kind of grit and force that the team could benefit from.

Of course, there is his terrible, horrific, woe betide him for playing hockey injury history. In his four years of NHL action so far, he has had seasons of 82, 15, 71 and 69 (so far this year) games. With the exception of that 2nd year he played, that's not a bad record for someone playing such a physical game. Yes, there is a risk he gets injured again, but the same can be said of the guy who leads us in points this year, or the guy who led our team in points last year. I'd be willing to take the risk of aquiring him. Just not straight up for Halak.

Anyways, he is a Cane now, so I like him a little less than I used to

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03-18-2008, 08:37 AM
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Funny when I saw he got traded to Carolina I was thinking that he could have been a good fit with the Habs....

Latendresse - Ruutu - Ryder.

interresting third line...
or even

Latendresse - Lapierre - Ruutu could have been a fun line to watch.

Bob will make the right move when the time come...












Sure hope that time is this summer and that move is Hossa!

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