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05-01-2004, 09:04 PM
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Jim Dowd vs Red Fisher

I posted this on another board, thought I'd share it here.

What did Dowd do to get on Red's bad side?

Was just reading today's Gazette, and man, Red seems bitter or something. A few quotes,

"Defensive specialists Jan Bulis and Jim Dowd were minus-6 and minus-5, respectively."

"Yeah, you've gotta love that two-referee system when you see Dowd pounding Tampa goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin late in Tuesday's game - with no call be either Rob Schick or Paul Devorski."

"The Canadiens' Dowd, to Tampa Bay reporters, on the Montreal media: 'More people cover practices than games anywhere else. Some days, you can't even move in the locker room.' What the trade-deadline acquisition failed to mention was that most of the players aren't in the Canadiens room after a game."

He also goes on to say Habs have no depth and Theo basically has no chance of being on the World Cup team. Why all the harshness towards Dowd? He was great for us, and I'd love to have him back. I think it's time Red was sent out to pasture...

So, what does everyone else think? Am I reading into something that's not there or is Red bitter about a media snub perhaps?

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"The Canadiens' Dowd, to Tampa Bay reporters, on the Montreal media: 'More people cover practices than games anywhere else. Some days, you can't even move in the locker room.' What the trade-deadline acquisition failed to mention was that most of the players aren't in the Canadiens room after a game."

Lol, I think Fischer failed to understand what Dowd was saying (or maybe its me?).

I get the idea that Dowd is saying that in Montreal, more people cover the practices than the media in other cities do after games.

Red seems to think he said that the Montreal media covers practices more in-depth than they do games.......weird.

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Red is getting old... give him a banana


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I like Dowd, we should seriously consider having him back.

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I posted this on another board, thought I'd share it here.

What did Dowd do to get on Red's bad side?

Was just reading today's Gazette, and man, Red seems bitter or something. A few quotes,

"Defensive specialists Jan Bulis and Jim Dowd were minus-6 and minus-5, respectively."

"Yeah, you've gotta love that two-referee system when you see Dowd pounding Tampa goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin late in Tuesday's game - with no call be either Rob Schick or Paul Devorski."

"The Canadiens' Dowd, to Tampa Bay reporters, on the Montreal media: 'More people cover practices than games anywhere else. Some days, you can't even move in the locker room.' What the trade-deadline acquisition failed to mention was that most of the players aren't in the Canadiens room after a game."

He also goes on to say Habs have no depth and Theo basically has no chance of being on the World Cup team. Why all the harshness towards Dowd? He was great for us, and I'd love to have him back. I think it's time Red was sent out to pasture...

So, what does everyone else think? Am I reading into something that's not there or is Red bitter about a media snub perhaps?
I think Fisher was saying that the refs missed the call when Dowd fell on the goalie. That's not harsh towards Dowd that's toward the ref. He's been critical about the 2 ref.. system all year.

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I think Fisher was saying that the refs missed the call when Dowd fell on the goalie. That's not harsh towards Dowd that's toward the ref. He's been critical about the 2 ref.. system all year.
Ya, but to call it pounding? I dunno, if it were just that comment I'd find it fine but he seemed to single out Dowd three times in an article. I think the last comment he was referring to when the whole team left and only Souray was in the locker room?

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I think Fisher was saying that the refs missed the call when Dowd fell on the goalie. That's not harsh towards Dowd that's toward the ref. He's been critical about the 2 ref.. system all year.
When he fell ? Hahaha he completely jumped on the goalie. Or maybe we can call it falling on purpose. It was totally intentional no one was pushing him or anything, and he wasn't off balance.

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Dowd hopes to be back with the team next year. I have read this morning in the newspaper that he said "these were the greatest 2 months of his entire hockey player career". That's got to mean something when you're 35 and you have won the Stanley Cup...

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He wasn't dressed for that Cup win though I don't think.

I think we need this guy back. You can't hand over the checking line to a rookie just yet, they have to earn it. I don't think we have anyone else that could center the checking line unless Higgins can do it, but I think they want more from him and/or they aren't confident in his ability to play center.

Dowd was one of the few forwards that could be trusted in their own end, despite the +/-. He wasn't the problem that's for sure.

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I think there are plenty of Jim Dowd's in the NHL.

I like him but I think we can do better yet.



I'd much rather see a youngster TAKE the job and run with it.

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When he fell ? Hahaha he completely jumped on the goalie. Or maybe we can call it falling on purpose. It was totally intentional no one was pushing him or anything, and he wasn't off balance.
He jumped him? Did you watch the game Greg Millen???

Dowd was at first brought into the net by the Tampa Dman, and he didn't stop the player from doing so and he went ito Khabibulin, but when he hit him if you noticed Dowd wrapped his arm behind Khabibulin's head to craddle it from crashing onto the ice and to prevent injury to Khabibulin. Sure he went to the net with the help of the player, his intent wasn't to hurt Khabibulin it was to make him aware of the Habs coming to the net and to get him of his game....but you like so many of the commentators and media out there fail to see what happens during the whole play. Dowd protected Khabibulin as well.

Joseph getting hit by Ville Niemanen the other night is a diliberate crash, Dowds isn't.

Greg Millen said it was aweful and one of the worse goalie hits he has witnessed this season, what a moron. If that is the worse he has seen he obviously didn't watch the Vancouver-Calgary series too closely, a series he commentated in.

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I think there are plenty of Jim Dowd's in the NHL.

I like him but I think we can do better yet.

I'd much rather see a youngster TAKE the job and run with it.
I agree , Dowd is 35 and if we sign him for say 2 years he'll be washed up for the 2nd years and we would still take a roster spot of a rookie because we won't be the 3rd line C we are looking for ... we was just a patch for the playoffs and did his job well imo .

Good move by BG .

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I like Dowd, we should seriously consider having him back.
I can't understand the posters wanting Dowd back. Yes he contributed to the HABS success but someone else can contribute the same way. Many of our prospects can do just as good a job.

At next year's trade deadline, there will be dozens of Jim Dowds available for late round picks.

Let's wait then. Let's save our money.

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Fisher should retire

Yes Red is starting to suffer from attrition. Perhaps he should call it a career. So should Don Cherry who's now 70. Look at what he was wearing today. He actually looked like a cherry.

http://pages.infinit.net/brush/cherry.jpg

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Higgins-Dowd-Lapperiere is my wish 3rd line for next year.

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Higgins-Dowd-Lapperiere is my wish 3rd line for next year.
My third line would be Higgins, Begin, Ward

Lapperiere will cost a lot. At the fraction of that price we could have Higgins who will be more motivated because he has everything to prove.

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My third line would be Higgins, Begin, Ward

Lapperiere will cost a lot. At the fraction of that price we could have Higgins who will be more motivated because he has everything to prove.
Hasn't Laperriere hinted that he'd like to play in Montreal when he becomes a free agent? I haven't read it myself, but I think I remember someone mentionning it.

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