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03-22-2008, 12:05 PM
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Well they can think there the better team all they want because the more they think that way the more well beat them. They come out and make the same mistake every time they play us. Maybe if they just change there mentality there fortune would change vs us. They keep thinking there better than us but the result is always the same.

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Well they can think there the better team all they want because the more they think that way the more well beat them. They come out and make the same mistake every time they play us. Maybe if they just change there mentality there fortune would change vs us. They keep thinking there better than us but the result is always the same.
The funny thing is that its not just th Bruins team, but the fans think they are better than us even after being spanked 7 times in a row. They win tonight and I bet we hear all about the "moral victory" against us!

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yeah i have no problem admitting that Ottawa is a better team, because, they are. But Boston being on par with us? Come on. They have Glenn. Metropolit. Granted, if they actually had Bergeron in their lineup it might of been a different story but meh...

I will never understand why they traded Boyes...That guy was the fire that fueled the habs hate on the Bruins even more and he was such a catalyst. Now he scored 38 goals for one of the worse teams in the league. Such a shame.

I think if the habs win tonight, it'll be the first time that a team sweeps a divisional rival since the lockout, right?

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I think if the habs win tonight, it'll be the first time that a team sweeps a divisional rival since the lockout, right?
You are right. We went 7-1 vs Boston 2 years agos, but this could be our first divison sweep since the new schedule came out.

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yeah i have no problem admitting that Ottawa is a better team, because, they are. But Boston being on par with us? Come on. They have Glenn. Metropolit. Granted, if they actually had Bergeron in their lineup it might of been a different story but meh...

I will never understand why they traded Boyes...That guy was the fire that fueled the habs hate on the Bruins even more and he was such a catalyst. Now he scored 38 goals for one of the worse teams in the league. Such a shame.

I think if the habs win tonight, it'll be the first time that a team sweeps a divisional rival since the lockout, right?

I think you mean Joe Thornton

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03-22-2008, 01:49 PM
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I think you mean Joe Thornton
no. i can understand why that was done. it was dumb, but there was some logic to it. They probably could of gotten a lot more for him though.

I really mean Boyes. And Boynton. That was another guy they let go...

If you look at their roster from the 2003-2004 season...and today's it leaves you wondering....

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no. i can understand why that was done. it was dumb, but there was some logic to it. They probably could of gotten a lot more for him though.

I really mean Boyes. And Boynton. That was another guy they let go...

If you look at their roster from the 2003-2004 season...and today's it leaves you wondering....
I know that you really meant Boyes. But it's pretty funny when you look at it. Same mistakes. I remember us having much more trouble with the B's (forget the playoff) when they had JT in the lineup.

About Boyes, I see more logic in this trade then in Joe Thornton's deal, especially with the players they received. There's a way to trade superstars without getting ripped (heatley for hossa) but a package for one star is never a good idea. (look at Patrick Roy)

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This will make you want to sweep them even more tonight...I'd post this in the GDT if it was up but it isn't...



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Since when Boston are our enemies ? I don't call people giving me easy wins my enemy.

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no. i can understand why that was done. it was dumb, but there was some logic to it. They probably could of gotten a lot more for him though.

I really mean Boyes. And Boynton. That was another guy they let go...

If you look at their roster from the 2003-2004 season...and today's it leaves you wondering....
If you had watched the B's all season, you would realize that they would be in far worse shape with Boyes, but without Wideman. Boyes gets more attention because of the goal scoring, but Wideman is Top 20 in several categories amongst d-men and averages over 25 min per game.

If you are talking about the Nick Boynton who has 11 pts in 73 games and is a -8 for PHO this year, and is 5th for ATOI amongst PHO d-men...you are right, why would we ever give up this all-star He's a physical guy, but he takes a ton of dumb penalties, and runs around (out of position) alot. He was traded for Mara, who was then traded for Ward. I'd take Ward every time over Boynton.

As far as Thornton goes, I (and a lot of other B's fans) have no problem with trading him, the problem was the return they got for him. It should have probably been more like: Sturm, Stuart, Bernier, Carle (or Vlasic)...or something similar. MOC was trying to save his job, panicked, and traded him for 3 guys who could step into the lineup right away, instead of getting young guys or prospects.

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03-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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If you had watched the B's all season, you would realize that they would be in far worse shape with Boyes, but without Wideman. Boyes gets more attention because of the goal scoring, but Wideman is Top 20 in several categories amongst d-men and averages over 25 min per game.

If you are talking about the Nick Boynton who has 11 pts in 73 games and is a -8 for PHO this year, and is 5th for ATOI amongst PHO d-men...you are right, why would we ever give up this all-star He's a physical guy, but he takes a ton of dumb penalties, and runs around (out of position) alot. He was traded for Mara, who was then traded for Ward. I'd take Ward every time over Boynton.

As far as Thornton goes, I (and a lot of other B's fans) have no problem with trading him, the problem was the return they got for him. It should have probably been more like: Sturm, Stuart, Bernier, Carle (or Vlasic)...or something similar. MOC was trying to save his job, panicked, and traded him for 3 guys who could step into the lineup right away, instead of getting young guys or prospects.
i actually really meant Boyton. Boyes would be usefull for other reasons but never came through for Boston if i recall.

Boyton, as far as i could tell, brought other intangibles that i just havent really seen from Boston players (except maybe from Lucic). He had that fire, that hatred that really fueled the games. You could tell he hated the Habs. Chara doesnt even do that, even though he could. I guess he's just scared he might actually kill someone though...

And that's what i said though, Thornton should of commended a much better return then he did. How can you save your job by making a dumb trade? Wouldnt that nearly guarantee that you would lose it?? Kind of flawed logic...At any rate, Boston is no where near the team that it was a couple years ago, despite some of the "upgrades" you guys think you've made. Boston has most definitely over achieved this year, and im kinda hoping that they get better so that we can have a true rivalry...

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i actually really meant Boyton. Boyes would be usefull for other reasons but never came through for Boston if i recall.

Boyton, as far as i could tell, brought other intangibles that i just havent really seen from Boston players (except maybe from Lucic). He had that fire, that hatred that really fueled the games. You could tell he hated the Habs. Chara doesnt even do that, even though he could. I guess he's just scared he might actually kill someone though...

And that's what i said though, Thornton should of commended a much better return then he did. How can you save your job by making a dumb trade? Wouldnt that nearly guarantee that you would lose it?? Kind of flawed logic...At any rate, Boston is no where near the team that it was a couple years ago, despite some of the "upgrades" you guys think you've made. Boston has most definitely over achieved this year, and im kinda hoping that they get better so that we can have a true rivalry...
Boynton's negatives far outweighed his positives...I think the logic on the Thornton trade was to bring in 3 guys who would be regulars in the lineup for a short-term boost. Obviously, it was a flawed plan as MOC was fired, LOL.

Boston has 5 or 6 rookies in the lineup every night, they have some players on the cusp like Lashoff, Rask, Karsums that could contribute next year. They also have Marchand and Hamill coming out of the juniors, and hopefully, Soderberg from SWE. If Bergeron comes back healthy, next year's team should be better, and given the youth in MON's lineup, the rivalry could be alive and well again (fingers crossed).

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