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View Poll Results: With the 8th OA pick in the 2017 draft, the Buffalo Sabres are proud to select...
RD - Cale Makar 97 85.84%
RD - Timothy Liljegren 12 10.62%
C/W - Martin Necas 0 0%
C - Michael Rasmussen 0 0%
C - Elias Pettersson 0 0%
C/W - Kristian Vesalainen 0 0%
C/W - Klim Kostin 0 0%
C - Nicholas Suzuki 1 0.88%
C/W - Lias Andersson 1 0.88%
W - Eeli Tolvanen 0 0%
LD - Juuso Valimaki 1 0.88%
C - Ryan Poehling 0 0%
RD - Callan Foote 0 0%
LD - Nicolas Hague 0 0%
C - Kole Lind 1 0.88%
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I know I've seen at least speculation before that players out of the CJHL cannot necessarily jump straight to the AHL. Girgensons was playing in the USHL, not the AJHL which is affiliated with the CJHL.
Girgensons was selected by Kelowna in the CHL Import Draft, but he never signed with them.

I don't know how a CHL team could force a kid who never played in the CHL to go to the CHL if they sign a pro contract and don't make the NHL roster.

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Girgensons was selected by Kelowna in the CHL Import Draft, but he never signed with them.

I don't know how a CHL team could force a kid who never played in the CHL to go to the CHL if they sign a pro contract and don't make the NHL roster.
I said nothing about being drafted by a CHL team. But I have seen at least speculation (which unfortunately I cannot find right now) about players from the BCHL, which is another member organization of the CJHL, not necessarily being able to jump right to the AHL.

I'm not saying a player cannot go from the AJHL to the AHL, but bringing up a player from the USHL isn't solid confirmation that one can. If you could provide a player who has gone straight from the AJHL or BCHL to the AHL that would settle the matter far more definitively.

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I said nothing about being drafted by a CHL team. But I have seen at least speculation (which unfortunately I cannot find right now) about players from the BCHL, which is another member organization of the CJHL, not necessarily being able to jump right to the AHL.

I'm not saying a player cannot go from the AJHL to the AHL, but bringing up a player from the USHL isn't solid confirmation that one can. If you could provide a player who has gone straight from the AJHL or BCHL to the AHL that would settle the matter far more definitively.
If a player doesn't "belong" to a CHL team at the time they are drafted, then the NHL or CHL rule doesn't apply.

I mean, that is how Alex Nylander was able to go to Rochester this season because while he played in the CHL last year, he was loaned from his Swedish club, and therefore wasn't technically drafted from the CHL.

Outside of Girgensons, I can't really think of too many guys that played their first non-draft year in the AHL after playing Jr A. It is an exceedingly rare thing.

Honestly, I expect Makar to spend a season or two either at UMass or he flips to the CHL.

I don't see him being the kind of player that would be better off in the AHL.

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I said nothing about being drafted by a CHL team. But I have seen at least speculation (which unfortunately I cannot find right now) about players from the BCHL, which is another member organization of the CJHL, not necessarily being able to jump right to the AHL.

I'm not saying a player cannot go from the AJHL to the AHL, but bringing up a player from the USHL isn't solid confirmation that one can. If you could provide a player who has gone straight from the AJHL or BCHL to the AHL that would settle the matter far more definitively.
In Makar's thread in the Prospects forum somebody said he couldn't go to the AHL, that the info was in Jost's thread where the same question was asked since Jost played in a comparable Junior A league, BCHL.

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In Makar's thread in the Prospects forum somebody said he couldn't go to the AHL, that the info was in Jost's thread where the same question was asked since Jost played in a comparable Junior A league, BCHL.
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These seem to point to Makar being eligible to go the AHL in 2017-18.

Although, I would expect him to go to UMass for a season or two.

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The last thing he needs is to go AHL. UMass first.

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The last thing he needs is to go AHL. UMass first.
I agree and I'm sure Botterill being an NCAA grad agrees but it's an interesting question in general. Always a chance a kid doesn't like school, so could he go to the AHL if he bails on college rather than to a CHL team.

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I agree and I'm sure Botterill being an NCAA grad agrees but it's an interesting question in general. Always a chance a kid doesn't like school, so could he go to the AHL if he bails on college rather than to a CHL team.
If for some reason he bails on UMass, he goes to the Hat first.

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I said nothing about being drafted by a CHL team. But I have seen at least speculation (which unfortunately I cannot find right now) about players from the BCHL, which is another member organization of the CJHL, not necessarily being able to jump right to the AHL.

I'm not saying a player cannot go from the AJHL to the AHL, but bringing up a player from the USHL isn't solid confirmation that one can. If you could provide a player who has gone straight from the AJHL or BCHL to the AHL that would settle the matter far more definitively.
AFAIK, Makar can't loophole his way into the AHL at his age in 2017-18, as he'll be drafted out of the CJHL. Khaira couldn't swing it either in Fall 2013 after being drafted out of the BCHL and then playing a year of NCAA. IIRC, that's the most recent attempt. He left MTU, signed his ELC, and still had to play in the WHL for a season due to his age.

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AFAIK, Makar can't loophole his way into the AHL at his age in 2017-18, as he'll be drafted out of the CJHL. Khaira couldn't swing it either in Fall 2013 after being drafted out of the BCHL and then playing a year of NCAA. IIRC, that's the most recent attempt. He left MTU, signed his ELC, and still had to play in the WHL for a season due to his age.
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According to Tips general manager Garry Davidson, the Canadian junior A leagues are subject to the same rules as major junior, meaning players drafted from the BCHL aren’t eligible for the minors until they’re 20. Therefore, the only places Khaira can play this season are Edmonton or Everett.
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AFAIK, Makar can't loophole his way into the AHL at his age in 2017-18, as he'll be drafted out of the CJHL. Khaira couldn't swing it either in Fall 2013 after being drafted out of the BCHL and then playing a year of NCAA. IIRC, that's the most recent attempt. He left MTU, signed his ELC, and still had to play in the WHL for a season due to his age.
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