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03-26-2008, 05:06 PM
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I think you'll be surprised.
Why do people never learn?

Its like with Tom Poti. He was hanged out to dry by Ranger team after Ranger team. Never had a 3rd man back to help him, neither did any other Ranger D from Lefebvre to Quintal to Malakhov.

Then he goes on to the Island where everyones loverboy Ted Nolan uses him as his NR 1 D, over Witt and co. Poti is then snatched away from the Islanders by Washington where another tough coach in Glen Hanlon uses Tom Poti as his NR 1 D, and after Hanlon is fired Bruce Boderleau comes in and uses Tom Poti as his NR 1 D.

When Tom Poti was in NY, like 90% of the fans argued that every D we had in the AHL was better then Poti, strongly.

I think allot of fans needs to watch games where the Rangers don't play. Theres what like 6 goals scored in avg in NHL game, thats 6 "misstakes". Theres probably an avg of 6-7 misstakes commited by any teams defense in any game.

Sure Malik is misstake prone, he makes big misstakes at times. That doesn't in any way or form alone ranks high enough to call a D awful -- especially not in this league at this time. He's very good in some aspects compared to other D's with his style, he's below avg in others, like his speed.

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03-26-2008, 08:28 PM
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We'll see how many offers he gets July 1.
I'd say that Malik is better than Hal Gill, yet Gill returned a 2nd round pick at the deadline. He also has another year at a considerable cap hit.

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03-27-2008, 10:11 AM
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Defense is the most misunderstood position in hockey, and not just at the NHL level. It is a very difficult position to play, arguably harder than center on a day-to-day basis. It requires above-average skating ability, keen hockey-sense, and split-second decision making, as well as greater endurance and physical toughness.

But it is also a position that has a lot of exposure. The only player on the ice who is more exposed when he makes a mistake is the goalie. Wingers can be out of position, or fail to back-check, etc, and very few people will notice, especially when watching on TV with only 20% of the ice visible.

Many "casual" fans who go to games and watch on TV on a regular basis do not understand the game, and go to sort of "participate" by yelling, booing etc. A mistake by a defenseman is usually an obvious and easy thing to point out, so it's what they hang their hat on. Because they feel like they can boo with confidence.

These are probably the same people who scream "shoot!" when all the lanes are blocked, then when the shot does come from the point, it hits a defender, bounces out and starts a transition the other way, they get a half-step on the d-man who took the shot, and it's "Boo-time" again. It's really pretty stupid, and frankly embarassing as a Ranger fan.

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03-27-2008, 10:56 AM
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Defense is the most misunderstood position in hockey, and not just at the NHL level. It is a very difficult position to play, arguably harder than center on a day-to-day basis. It requires above-average skating ability, keen hockey-sense, and split-second decision making, as well as greater endurance and physical toughness.

But it is also a position that has a lot of exposure. The only player on the ice who is more exposed when he makes a mistake is the goalie. Wingers can be out of position, or fail to back-check, etc, and very few people will notice, especially when watching on TV with only 20% of the ice visible.

Many "casual" fans who go to games and watch on TV on a regular basis do not understand the game, and go to sort of "participate" by yelling, booing etc. A mistake by a defenseman is usually an obvious and easy thing to point out, so it's what they hang their hat on. Because they feel like they can boo with confidence.

These are probably the same people who scream "shoot!" when all the lanes are blocked, then when the shot does come from the point, it hits a defender, bounces out and starts a transition the other way, they get a half-step on the d-man who took the shot, and it's "Boo-time" again. It's really pretty stupid, and frankly embarassing as a Ranger fan.

I agree, been saying that for awhile now.

'Big' doesnt mean he has to hit, 'slow' doesnt mean he's not covering his position. Some just can't understand no matter how much they watch.

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