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05-13-2017, 02:05 AM
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Is there some website to follow the games?

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Rubtsov and Sukhachyov are still injured I guess, possibly Svechnikov too and I have a suspicion that Yegor Zaitsev might be not healthy too, since his absence is looking too strange.
Edit: yep, Yegor Zaytsev is injured.

Kostin, Lipanov, Zhukov and possibly Ustimenko should be preparing for the draft combine I guess.

Sergachyov is still busy preparing for the Memorial Cup.

No idea about Berdin - possibly Bragin trying to say 'Hi' to guys leaving for USHL (I mean, USHL doesn't have a SuperSeries break anyway)?

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It's a bad sign when Raiko is the most recognizable name among goalies.
I think Melnichuk is, Raiko is the most annoying name though.

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Is there some website to follow the games?
Last year I think they streamed it on youtube.


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I think Melnichuk is, Raiko is the most annoying name though.
Why is he ALWAYS on the NT roster? Always! And he is always terrible.

I don't get it. Is he that talented?

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Rubtsov and Sukhachyov are still injured I guess, possibly Svechnikov too and I have a suspicion that Yegor Zaitsev might be not healthy too, since his absence is looking too strange.
Edit: yep, Yegor Zaytsev is injured.

Kostin, Lipanov, Zhukov and possibly Ustimenko should be preparing for the draft combine I guess.

Sergachyov is still busy preparing for the Memorial Cup.

No idea about Berdin - possibly Bragin trying to say 'Hi' to guys leaving for USHL (I mean, USHL doesn't have a SuperSeries break anyway)?



I think Melnichuk is, Raiko is the most annoying name though.



Last year I think they streamed it on youtube.
Ok thanks can I find a schedule somewhere or do you know if it will be posted to onhockey?

The interesting thing about Berdin is there were rumors that the USHL is to consider banning foreign goaltenders (even though it gave a huge boost to the league, look at the top goalies in the league, mostly foreigners who would have otherwise been starting in the CHL). If this is the case, Berdin would most likely return to Russia (unless strangely he would join NCAA). Even if this is not the case I do not see Berdin returning to the USHL next season, ECHL/AHL maybe?

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Why is he ALWAYS on the NT roster? Always! And he is always terrible.

I don't get it. Is he that talented?
I guess so, since now not only Golubovich is a fan of him. Seriously though, I think he is here only because Sukhachyov, Zhukov, Ustimenko and Tarasov are unavailable.

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Ok thanks can I find a schedule somewhere or do you know if it will be posted to onhockey?

The interesting thing about Berdin is there were rumors that the USHL is to consider banning foreign goaltenders (even though it gave a huge boost to the league, look at the top goalies in the league, mostly foreigners who would have otherwise been starting in the CHL). If this is the case, Berdin would most likely return to Russia (unless strangely he would join NCAA). Even if this is not the case I do not see Berdin returning to the USHL next season, ECHL/AHL maybe?
Games are scheduled for 26th, 27th and 28th of May, I think fhr.ru were posting the links last year, also I'd recommend to follow fhr's twitter account.

About Berdin, I'm pretty sure I heard/read that he is staying in the USHL for next season. USHL are not exactly banning import goalies, just adding some restrictions (I think it was that only one import goalie per team is allowed and it would cost two import slots).




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About Berdin, I'm pretty sure I heard/read that he is staying in the USHL for next season. USHL are not exactly banning import goalies, just adding some restrictions (I think it was that only one import goalie per team is allowed and it would cost two import slots).
All is correct, both regarding Berdin and USHL.

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Anyone has the stats from these games?

I didn't know Russia was split in 2 teams.

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Anyone has the stats from these games?

I didn't know Russia was split in 2 teams.
I'd recommend searching in the fhr.ru news section, you can find both lineups and game reports there.

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Thanks. Interesting split in teams.

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Russia Red beat Russia White 4-2.

I was really impressed with Altybarmakyan.

Great goal and a great no-look assist.

Highly skilled player.

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Some random notes after the tournament:
  • Ivanov and Kayumov combo could be a base for a good 4th line.
  • From the relatively unknown guys Danila Moiseyev looked pretty good. Also Artyom Ivanyuzhenkov was really impressive in the first game, but somehow didn't notice him in other games.
  • Marsel Sholokhov and Kirill Koshurnikov looked like typical Bragin's aggressive high-energy third-liners.
  • Umbrella powerplay with Sokolov and Popugayev at right and left circles looked pretty interesting.
  • Wasn't too impressed with Maltsev and Abramov combo, but I'd give it another try at the CAN/RUS Series.
  • Definitely expected more from Shvyryov and Veryayev combo; also from Kosorenkov.
  • Yes, as it has been mentioned, Altybarmakyan looked great.
  • 1999 born guys tried hard and were noticeable, but still looked a bit raw.
  • From the D, Samorukov and Makeyev showed most puckmoving potential, Syomin was the most physical guy there, although can't exactly say that they stood out.
  • Not impressed with goalies, so I'd still say that Sukhachyov is the likely starter, as I didn't see any upgrade on him in those goalies, although I think Melnichuk will be a decent backup. Lozebnikov looked interesting at times, but the stability isn't there at least yet.

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Maltsev's line saved the best for last, I guess.

They played well in this last game.

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I agree with Bragin, most of the guys looked like they were already on summer break. I was disappointed to see the style of the game, too much individual play, chip and chase, or over bluieline and shot. Guys couldnt make even a single pass through a seem. Opposite of Russian hockey. One of the very few nice passing plays resulted in the Polodyan goal, but these types of plays were very minimal.

Polodyan and Alty had some good chemistry going. Maltsev showed flashes with the puck and solid moving through traffic. Manukyan looked okay, Kayumov flashed some skill but needs better linemates. Even the guys I normally like looked like crap at this tournament. Popugaev looked like a wet noodle when the puck was on his stick, WHL draining his skillset or something.

Melnichuk was solid. Berdin and Denisov better get a look at the super series, Im not sold on the short acrobatic style of Sukachev, maybe for back up role but nothing more please.

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Melnichuk was solid. Berdin and Denisov better get a look at the super series, Im not sold on the short acrobatic style of Sukachev, maybe for back up role but nothing more please.
Zhukov and Tarasov

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Zhukov and Tarasov
Zhukov was way too shaky at the U18s, Taraasov yeah. But whats everyone got hate for Berdin for?

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Zhukov was way too shaky at the U18s, Taraasov yeah. But whats everyone got hate for Berdin for?
Zhukov's kind of inconsistent, but he's good more times than not. If he becomes more consistent, he could be a good NHL starting goalie. He's so talented.

There's no hate for Berdin on my part. I think he's good, but not as good as Sukhachyov or Zhukov. I'd have to see how Tarasov rebounds from his injury. A lot of goalies struggle after injuries.

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Goalie situation is weird in not a good way: Sukhachyov is still injured (it's been 5 months now), Tarasov too (about a year now). Melnichuk is healthy, but has similar flows to Sukhachyov, so I fail to see him as an upgrade. Lozebnikov has good size, but doesn't look like a starter to me at all. Berdin and Zhukov are USHLers and USHL don't have a break for the SuperSeries, so I highly doubt they are considered by Bragin at all. Ustimenko wasn't invited to Sochi for some reason, although for Russia-based goalies it's not that critical I guess, as there will be other opportunities.

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