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03-22-2017, 01:43 PM
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Usually, the cap hit for a player on an ELC goes down after his contract slides.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/samuel-morin

But for some reason Phil Myers' cap hit went up after his first year slid.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/philippe-myers

Can anyone explain what's going on? I can't figure it out.

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Usually, the cap hit for a player on an ELC goes down after his contract slides.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/samuel-morin

But for some reason Phil Myers' cap hit went up after his first year slid.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/philippe-myers

Can anyone explain what's going on? I can't figure it out.
It's probably an error on the 2015-16 AAV for Myers. Appears that it should be $661,667 instead of $636,667.

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Thanks.

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If an NHL team wants to send a player who isn't waiver exempt to the AHL after their NHL regular season ends, does he have to pass thru waivers?

The Flyers temporarily put Jordan Weal on their AHL roster on 3/1 when he was exempt from waivers due to the 10 game/30 day rule, so he is eligible for the AHL playoffs. But that period has expired, so they won't risk him getting claimed on waivers just to help the Phantoms in the AHL playoffs.

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It's an interesting question, I don't recall coming up before. A strict reading of the CBA Waiver section would suggest to me that he can't be sent to the AHL without clearing waivers, even if the Flyers season is over.

The Playing Season Waiver Period begins 12 days before opening day, and ends for each team on the day following the last day of the Club's Playing Season. The rule says that a waiver eligible player cannot be Loaned without first clearing Regular Waivers during the Playing Season Waiver Period. An important distinction is that the rule doesn't say waivers aren't necessary once a Club's Playing Season is over. Just that waivers must be cleared during that period for a player to be loaned at all.

A more succinct summary, the rule appears to say: "A waiver eligible player cannot be Loaned unless he clears Regular Waivers during the Playing Season Waiver Period, and the 10/30 limit hasn't been reached". As opposed to saying something like "During the Playing Season Waiver Period a waiver eligible player cannot be Loaned without first clearing Regular Waivers."


It's possible the NHL/PA has agreed to apply the clause differently. I suppose we'll find out with Weal shortly.


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He'd have to go through waivers. Just last season Cal O'Reilly was waived on April 11, after Buffalo's last game on April 9, so he could be assigned to Rochester.

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Then it looks like he won't be going back to the Phantoms. Shame.

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Not necessarily. There's still the 50-contract limit, plus player cannot play in other team's playoffs. May be enough to allow player to clear waivers.

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Not necessarily. There's still the 50-contract limit, plus player cannot play in other team's playoffs. May be enough to allow player to clear waivers.
But the teams not in the playoffs can make claims as well? Would seem like a foolish move for the Flyers if he is a player they want to keep.

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http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/04/08/...held-april-29/

2017 Draft lottery scheduled for April 29.

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Great to see a draft lottery where the top %s did not "win".

(A bit disappointing for VGK to not pick higher than 6th, but whatcha gonna do? )

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Interesting case of Tim Heed. By age, and lack of NHL experience, it would appear he would be a UFA6, but he's a RFA. (And perhaps because of his cancelled ELS, may be expansion draft exempt as he has not meet the "pro experience" threshhold.)

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Interesting case of Tim Heed. By age, and lack of NHL experience, it would appear he would be a UFA6, but he's a RFA. (And perhaps because of his cancelled ELS, may be expansion draft exempt as he has not meet the "pro experience" threshhold.)
Appears to be a simple case of incorrect contract reporting in the past. Per CF Heed's ELC was terminated after the first season in 2012-13. Some sites were incorrectly reporting that Heed played on loan to the SHL in what would have been years two and three of the ELC.

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aka giving teams time to buyout players before expansion draft lists are due on June 17

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I expect the CAP ( CAP =an agreement to ensure competitiveness) to drastically decrease .... not from escrow of the escalator clause which are agreements on revenue sharing and salary growth.. Not from money splits but from the NHLPA being forced to help the owners deal with the settlement of that lawsuit that looms over the league like the sword of Damocles... That lawsuit will spawn other lawsuits unless dealt with long term... Only a partnership between the owners and players will be adequate to do that....

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...d-dubas-leafs/

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The NHL and NHLPA released their calendar of critical dates and information for the spring/summer business period. The average league salary for 2016-17 was $3,012,785, up 4.55 per cent from 2015-16 ($2,881,758). If a team wants to walk away from a salary arbitration decision, the threshold is $4,084,219.

Fans love their offer-sheet compensation figures even though we get so few of them. Here they are:

Average annual value Compensation
$1,295,571 or below Nothing
Over $1,295,571-$1,962,986 Third-round pick
Over $1,962,986-$3,925,975 Second-round pick
Over $3,925,975-$5,888,960 First and third-round picks
Over $5,888,960-$7,851,948 First, second and third-round picks
Over $7,851,948-$9,814,935 Two firsts, second and third-round picks
Over $9,814,935 Four first-round picks

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http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/06/17/...espres-buyout/

NHL and NHLPA have received "conceptual agreement" that would allow Anaheim to buyout Despres (who's been sidelined with concussion for about a year).

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“There have been a number of unique aspects related to Mr. Despres’ situation and we and the Players’ Association have worked together to help define the appropriate collectively bargained rules that can be applied to his contract,” Daly wrote in an e-mail. “We now have a conceptual agreement on treatment and we are in the process of documenting that resolution.”
Now maybe we'll see some further deets on this.

(Last chance for team to buy out at 1/3 value due to age.)

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