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06-17-2017, 11:22 PM
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Argos release Drew Willy. That trade last season looking great now.

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Willy released by the Argos:

https://www.cfl.ca/2017/06/17/argos-...ck-drew-willy/

I would bring him back in a heartbeat if the money was right.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up back in Saskatchewan. They aren't exactly brimming with QB talent.

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That trade made zero sense when everyone and their mom knew Ray was still going to be the starter once healthy.

Barker deserved the axe for that deal.

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I'm still not convinced about O'Shea, but Kyle Walters has done a terrific job as GM.
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Kenny Stafford released. Interesting. I thought he would of had a good shot at being a starter?

Maybe we just don't like Stafford's in Winnipeg?

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Argos release Drew Willy. That trade last season looking great now.
I remember when the Bombers used to be on the wrong side of deals like this.

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Kenny Stafford released. Interesting. I thought he would of had a good shot at being a starter?

Maybe we just don't like Stafford's in Winnipeg?
I think others have mentioned that he was treating camp like a joke. And he was invisible in the pre-season. And I heard he was a locker room cancer.

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I remember when the Bombers used to be on the wrong side of deals like this.
The good ol' Joe Mack days.

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06-19-2017, 09:43 AM
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Is it just me, or is Sam Hurl a really anemic MLB? I honestly don't know what O'Shea sees in him. Westwood is going after him a bit now, and I agree with him on this.

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06-19-2017, 10:56 AM
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Is it just me, or is Sam Hurl a really anemic MLB? I honestly don't know what O'Shea sees in him. Westwood is going after him a bit now, and I agree with him on this.
I don't like Hurl at MLB but I think the Bombers are being a bit cornered into it at this point. Problem is the Coates and Richards injuries at receiver have left them a bit thin at national receiver. They don't seem to want to start Feoli-Gudino at receiver. Combine that with what has sounded like a very mediocre camp from national DT's Jake Thomas and Faith Ekakatie and the national starter problems become evident.

Right now they have Goosen, Chung, Westerman, Loffler, Harris as locks to start. Now they need 2 more national starters. It pretty much has to be at receiver, defensive tackle or middle linebacker. With the aforementioned problems they are having at receiver and tackle the Bombers likely want to give Hurl a chance to play MLB so they can maintain flexibility at the other two question mark positions.

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Kenny Stafford released. Interesting. I thought he would of had a good shot at being a starter?

Maybe we just don't like Stafford's in Winnipeg?
Stafford and his attitude were not exactly what O'SHea is all about, really surprised they signed him in the first place.

No surprise on Willy, he just isn't very good and is completely immobile something you can't be in the CFL!

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I don't like Hurl at MLB but I think the Bombers are being a bit cornered into it at this point. Problem is the Coates and Richards injuries at receiver have left them a bit thin at national receiver. They don't seem to want to start Feoli-Gudino at receiver. Combine that with what has sounded like a very mediocre camp from national DT's Jake Thomas and Faith Ekakatie and the national starter problems become evident.

Right now they have Goosen, Chung, Westerman, Loffler, Harris as locks to start. Now they need 2 more national starters. It pretty much has to be at receiver, defensive tackle or middle linebacker. With the aforementioned problems they are having at receiver and tackle the Bombers likely want to give Hurl a chance to play MLB so they can maintain flexibility at the other two question mark positions.
Maybe.

But O'Shea has been a strong supporter of Hurl's for a while. I don't get it, to be honest. I think the Bombers could be steamrolled in run defense. He's slow and weak and just doesn't make very many plays.

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06-19-2017, 12:17 PM
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Is it just me, or is Sam Hurl a really anemic MLB? I honestly don't know what O'Shea sees in him. Westwood is going after him a bit now, and I agree with him on this.
Agree, he's miscast as a starting MLB in the CFL. As a special teams kamikaze, fine. But he's just way too slow in diagnosing plays and getting into the right position.

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Maybe.

But O'Shea has been a strong supporter of Hurl's for a while. I don't get it, to be honest. I think the Bombers could be steamrolled in run defense. He's slow and weak and just doesn't make very many plays.
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Agree, he's miscast as a starting MLB in the CFL. As a special teams kamikaze, fine. But he's just way too slow in diagnosing plays and getting into the right position.
I agree with both these points. I don't think Hurl is at all starter quality. I was just explaining the rationale I see right now. I do think they should be starting Feoli-Gudino at receiver for sure. The reports on Ekakatie and Thomas out of camp are troubling though and pressure off the D-Line is a big weak spot for the Bombers. They might need to replace Hardwick at RT for Neufeld. Not an ideal solution by any means, but that might be a way to fix the national problem.

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Looks like the ratio at the moment is pushing Hurl to start at MLB, but if the Bombers start 8 nationals as some has speculated then Osh is seeing something that I am not.

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I agree with both these points. I don't think Hurl is at all starter quality. I was just explaining the rationale I see right now. I do think they should be starting Feoli-Gudino at receiver for sure. The reports on Ekakatie and Thomas out of camp are troubling though and pressure off the D-Line is a big weak spot for the Bombers. They might need to replace Hardwick at RT for Neufeld. Not an ideal solution by any means, but that might be a way to fix the national problem.
Absolutely. It's just too bad we couldn't find a better National MLB to plug in there.

Hurl at MLB >>>>>>>> Neufeld at RT. There's a school of thought that says MLB is a less crucial position in CFL defensive schemes, similar to safety. You can't play around with RT, especially with someone like Neufeld who is a straight-up bum at tackle.

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Argos release Drew Willy. That trade last season looking great now.
Ekakitie better be good though

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Absolutely. It's just too bad we couldn't find a better National MLB to plug in there.

Hurl at MLB >>>>>>>> Neufeld at RT. There's a school of thought that says MLB is a less crucial position in CFL defensive schemes, similar to safety. You can't play around with RT, especially with someone like Neufeld who is a straight-up bum at tackle.
Further condemnation of the CFL import ratio rules! The best Canadian born players are in the NFL already, don't get what exactly we are protecting. Maybe Canadian NHL teams should only allow a set number of foreign born players, lets see how far that gets!

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Further condemnation of the CFL import ratio rules! The best Canadian born players are in the NFL already, don't get what exactly we are protecting. Maybe Canadian NHL teams should only allow a set number of foreign born players, lets see how far that gets!
Almost all leagues around the world have rules to protect local players. Only leagues that don't are NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA. The big 4 in North America. The CFL is not in that group so it makes sense to have the national rule.

Think about the european hockey leagues. All their best players are in NHL but they still have limits on foreign born players. It is important to maintain growth at home. The reason there are lots of Canadian players now plying their trade south of the border is directly related to national/international rules in the CFL.

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Almost all leagues around the world have rules to protect local players. Only leagues that don't are NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA. The big 4 in North America. The CFL is not in that group so it makes sense to have the national rule.

Think about the european hockey leagues. All their best players are in NHL but they still have limits on foreign born players. It is important to maintain growth at home. The reason there are lots of Canadian players now plying their trade south of the border is directly related to national/international rules in the CFL.
Well I think things need tweaking, allow 20 imports to start regardless on which side of the ball, let the teams choose and they need to make an allowance for Canadian QB's to try and develop some, up until this season with Brandon Bridge in SK has there been any since Russ Jackson?

We disagree on this but I think you need to allow the best players available to play regardless of country of origin.

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So happy to have CFL football back on the television.

I'm going to try and watch every game this year.

For Canadian talent, I'm happy with where it is at, but the league needs to add a spot to every roster called "Canadian QB"

That way every team will at least have someone on the roster who gets elite practice reps.

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I think sip is on to something here. I have been the biggest supporter of the mandatory Canadians rule. But with so many going south these days and way larger rosters in the NFL than say 20 years ago maybe we need to lower it a couple.

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I think sip is on to something here. I have been the biggest supporter of the mandatory Canadians rule. But with so many going south these days and way larger rosters in the NFL than say 20 years ago maybe we need to lower it a couple.
Never gonna happen.

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Never gonna happen.
Never say never, CFL needs it more than ever, brutal crowds in TO and BC where the CFL is now really struggling, it isn't much better in Montreal, total apathy in your top three markets and those kinda dictate your next television contract!

Only 13K for the home opener against the rival Tiger Cats in TO was really sad to see, great effort by Ray, really don't know how the CFL turns the Argo's around at this point! Obviously the move to BMO wasn't the answer as many had hoped.

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I really hope the Bombers have a good season but I sense they may take a step backwards. Feels like they settled at QB and their turnover ratio will regress to the mean and that will more than offset any gains they have made. That being said I am the least plugged in guy on this thread to the CFL so here's hoping I am wrong. Life is better when the Bombers are winning.

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