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07-16-2017, 11:55 PM
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Devils/Avs

Devils made a hole in their lineup after trading Larsson for Hall. But since New Jersey won the draft lottery and drafting Hischier to go alongside with Zacha and McLeod. It seems that forward wise isn't really a weakspot for them anymore.

So....

Avs trade Erik Johnson to the Devils for Taylor Hall. Hall is younger so worth more, but Johnson is a defender and top pairing defenders are rarely unavailable.

Then with Taylor Hall's help, Avs win the 2018 NHL draft lottery to grab Dahlin.


Dahlin - Makar
Zadorov - Barrie
Mironov - Timmins
Bigras


Greene - Johnson
Moore - Severson
Santini - Jacobs
Walsh

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Devils made a hole in their lineup after trading Larsson for Hall. But since New Jersey won the draft lottery and drafting Hischier to go alongside with Zacha and McLeod. It seems that forward wise isn't really a weakspot for them anymore.

So....

Avs trade Erik Johnson to the Devils for Taylor Hall. Hall is younger so worth more, but Johnson is a defender and top pairing defenders are rarely unavailable.

Then with Taylor Hall's help, Avs win the 2018 NHL draft lottery to grab Dahlin.


Dahlin - Makar
Zadorov - Barrie
Mironov - Timmins
Bigras


Greene - Johnson
Moore - Severson
Santini - Jacobs
Walsh

You get points for this, at the very least.

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on a lot of levels, this is not even close.

no thank you

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You get points for this, at the very least.
As an Oilers fan... It checks out.

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You get points for this, at the very least.
With Hall? Teams gets very few points

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Lol no

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Devils made a hole in their lineup after trading Larsson for Hall. But since New Jersey won the draft lottery and drafting Hischier to go alongside with Zacha and McLeod. It seems that forward wise isn't really a weakspot for them anymore.

So....

Avs trade Erik Johnson to the Devils for Taylor Hall. Hall is younger so worth more, but Johnson is a defender and top pairing defenders are rarely unavailable.

Then with Taylor Hall's help, Avs win the 2018 NHL draft lottery to grab Dahlin.


Dahlin - Makar
Zadorov - Barrie
Mironov - Timmins
Bigras


Greene - Johnson
Moore - Severson
Santini - Jacobs
Walsh
Sorry but I don't see this trade happening. Maybe Zadorov and Johnson for Hall with picks to even the trade out. I will let both fan bases argue it out who gives what for the draft picks.

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Sorry but I don't see this trade happening. Maybe Zadorov and Johnson for Hall with picks to even the trade out. I will let both fan bases argue it out who gives what for the draft picks.



Zadorov AND EJ for Hall?



We've already seen the monumental difference in value a winger has compared to a Dman.


Avs wouldn't even move EJ straight up for Hall. He's a better Dman then what Adam Larsson ever will be.

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I feel like I'm in a parallel universe. EJ doesn't get us Hall, a defender not unlike what we want for Duchene doesn't get us Hall. Wouldn't trade for Hall given our defensive depth and NJ likely wouldn't trade him either given what they paid and their needs offensively as well.

Such a weird thread.

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07-17-2017, 07:09 AM
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I would do this as a Devils fan, maybe add a small plus. EJ is pretty underrated.

Thought I was hoping to get the first overall in 2018.

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This is not how probability works....

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I would do this as a Devils fan, maybe add a small plus. EJ is pretty underrated.

Thought I was hoping to get the first overall in 2018.
EJ is definitely underrated and he would be a huge asset for NJ, but he's not worth Hall. And I say that as one of EJ's biggest fans.

I think the damage this causes the Avs is pretty big too, EJ in my opinion will be one of the better veteran mentors for young defenders in the future. He's often quite vocal about how much the support he's received over the years helped improve his game. Sounds like the type of guy take could take under his wing young 2-way defenders.

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07-17-2017, 07:50 AM
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How about Hall for Makar and Wilson?

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NJD needs help throughout their lineup. Trading Hall for EJ will just create another hole while opening another one in their lineup.

Anyways, EJ is worth more than Hall. AVs need LHD. NJD needs everything with few prospects except Zacha & Mcleod (both Forwards) the AVs have in abundance.

Teams make poor trading partners and they both pass.

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Can't see the Devils being interested in something like this.

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How about Hall for Makar and Wilson?
BAD, BAD. NO whiskey, stop even trying.

What did we talk about?

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The Devils just made the opposite of this trade a year ago. Don't see why they'd pretty much reverse it. I guess they could look at it as a way of upgrading Larsson with EJ for free but I don't think they would lol.

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NJD needs help throughout their lineup. Trading Hall for EJ will just create another hole while opening another one in their lineup.

Anyways, EJ is worth more than Hall. AVs need LHD. NJD needs everything with few prospects except Zacha & Mcleod (both Forwards) the AVs have in abundance.

Teams make poor trading partners and they both pass.
not really. The forward corps and forward prospects are pretty good and they still have a top 5-7 goalie.

The D obviously needs an upgrade. If they are able to somehow get a top 4 LHD, then I think we could be close to a playoff team.



As to the OP, not even remotely interested.

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Time to take a break from here for a little, see y'all in a month

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This is not how probability works....
Except if you factor in history...

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This is an incredibly funny read. Thanks for the laugh.

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If the Devils actually consider this, Avs say yes even though we need defense pretty bad. Sign Markov or some other stop gaps until Makar and Timmins are ready.

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not really. The forward corps and forward prospects are pretty good and they still have a top 5-7 goalie.

The D obviously needs an upgrade. If they are able to somehow get a top 4 LHD, then I think we could be close to a playoff team.



As to the OP, not even remotely interested.
Describe pretty good. Right now they have some top 6 pieces but no one who is a sure fire first liner.

No legit #1 C or #1 D prospects in the org (They just took a winger 1st OA)

Not to mention the aging core. The D core is probably the worst in the NHL and I am not sure they have any pieces to address that. Like I said, a bunch of meh offensive pieces doesn't mean anything.

Zacha is skilled but over hyped. Chances are he's a 50 point winger in his prime.

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I would do this as a Devils fan, maybe add a small plus. EJ is pretty underrated.

Thought I was hoping to get the first overall in 2018.
Surprised you would do this. EJ is turning 30 and has a lot of mileage in the league already with pretty tough usage. He's also had some major injuries. He is a legit top pairing D.

Where I'm most surprised is because the Devils are or rather, should still be rebuilding. Hall is turning 26. He could survive a full Avs tear-down and still be a core piece for them. EJ would be wasting his prime years (on the assumption that he's not already peaked), comparatively.

If Devils were going to make this move, might as well have kept Adam Larsson.

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