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Ranking habs prospects: #19

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Scott Walford 22 28.57%
Zach Fucale 28 36.36%
Hayden Hawkey 5 6.49%
Cayden Primeau 7 9.09%
Lucas Vejdemo 4 5.19%
Jarret Tyszka 0 0%
Daniel Audette 4 5.19%
Antoine Waked 7 9.09%
Casey Staum 0 0%
Markus Eisenschmid 0 0%
Arvid Henrikson 0 0%
Jérémy Grégoire 0 0%
Michael Pezzetta 0 0%
Nikolas Koberstein 0 0%
Tom Parisi 0 0%
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07-16-2017, 05:29 PM
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Ranking habs prospects: #19

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A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey's Future, regardless of the players status with his NHL club.
An NCAA player who signs his first contract at or above the age of 22 has three years to meet the above criteria (65/45), while those NCAA players that turn pro under the age of 22 will be subjected to the criteria above.

European players who sign their first NHL contract at or above the age of 22 have three seasons from the time they sign that contract to meet the above criteria. Those European players below the age of 22 that have signed a NHL contract will be subjected to the criteria in section one.
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Results:
1. Noah Juulsen
2. Victor Mete
3. Charlie Lindgren
4. Charles Hudon
5. Ryan Poehling
6. Nikita Scherbak
7. Joni Ikonen
8. Michael McCarron
9. Michael McNiven
10. Jacob De La Rose
11. Josh Brook
12. Jake Evans
13. Brett Lernout
14. Martin Reway
15. Will Bitten
16. Cale Fleury
17. Simon Bourque
18. Jeremiah Addison

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Incredible to see McNiven at #9 and Fucale still not there. Mete at #2 also looks weird.

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07-16-2017, 07:27 PM
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i think a lot that voted may not have really known alot on the list. they only gave names with no statistics to go by. it was almost impossible to do a totally fair assessment with out the players particulars

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this is what I posted on Fucale in the previous poll,

Fucale has terrible rebound control, if he doesn't fix it, he won't even be a good AHLer, so Addison as a possible 4th liner in the NHL is better then a guy that is even a good AHLer. That's not to say that Fucale won't improve, just that for now his rebound control needs a lot of work.

His last year of juniors, (19)

3.21 gaa and a .885 save %

his rookie year in the AHL, (20)

3.13 gaa, .903 save %

his 2nd pro season, 1st in the ECHL, (21)

3.17 gaa, .898 save %

those are just flat out terrible numbers over a 3 year period. That said he does seem to do much better in the playoffs,

'13 - '14 - 2.79 .882
'14 - '15 - 2.56 .913
'16 - '17 - 2.13 .932

hopefully being the backup in Laval will really help him focus on improving his rebound control. He won't have to be the go to guy as Lindgren should be excellent again.

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How is Hayden Hawkey still not there? I personally have him in our Top 10-15

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How is Hayden Hawkey still not there? I personally have him in our Top 10-15
NCAA prospects outside of say 1st round picks usually get underrated as not a lot of posters get to see much of them. I really like Hawkey, he's got all the tools to be something so I can't wait to see how it goes for him over the next few years.

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Threw a dart blindfolded and hit Waked. So be it.

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Walford again.

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Walford again.

We used the pick we traded Beaulieu for to take Walford.


I pray he's a better prospect than Fucale. Then again, at this spot I'd take anybody but Fucale. I can't see anyone being further from the NHL than him.

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Walford again.
Same here.

Surprised by the results of that poll, Fucale became a fringe prospect with his abysmal play, perhaps he'll rebound, but I don't cash on this.

On the other hand, Walford has pro potential.

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Antoine Waked look underrated to me... He's way ahead and better than Fucale at this point.

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I would put hawkey ahead of fucale at this point honestly. Fucale still has that raw talent but just can't put it all together at any level it seems. Has good numbers in playoffs and at the Spengler cup last year but still gives up the stupidest goals. He'll make an incredible save one minute and just look great and then let in a squeaker or give up the juiciest rebound you've ever seen. Just really frustrating.

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The 3 goalies and Walford should probably be next. I'll go with Primeau.

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Does anyone happen to have the HP, TSN and FC rankings for all of our picks this year?

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this is what I posted on Fucale in the previous poll,

Fucale has terrible rebound control, if he doesn't fix it, he won't even be a good AHLer, so Addison as a possible 4th liner in the NHL is better then a guy that is even a good AHLer. That's not to say that Fucale won't improve, just that for now his rebound control needs a lot of work.

His last year of juniors, (19)

3.21 gaa and a .885 save %

his rookie year in the AHL, (20)

3.13 gaa, .903 save %

his 2nd pro season, 1st in the ECHL, (21)

3.17 gaa, .898 save %

those are just flat out terrible numbers over a 3 year period. That said he does seem to do much better in the playoffs,

'13 - '14 - 2.79 .882
'14 - '15 - 2.56 .913
'16 - '17 - 2.13 .932

hopefully being the backup in Laval will really help him focus on improving his rebound control. He won't have to be the go to guy as Lindgren should be excellent again.
I know no one wants to hear this but I'm going to post it anyway:

2012 Ivan Hlinka U18 Memorial Tournament – Gold Medal
QMJHL President's Cup Championship 2013
Memorial Cup Championship 2013
IIHF World U20 Championships – Gold Medal 2015
Spengler Cup 2016 - Gold Medal

I see the same issues the rest of you see...but I also see a lot of winning. Having a winner's mentality and being experienced in high pressure situations is only a good thing. The other thing I'll say about Fucale is he doesn't sit on a high horse. Never heard a word of complaint when he was sent to Brampton. Just played away. When he was picked to go to Davos he played really well and helped Canada win. Don't be shocked if he's the 3rd goalie for Canada's Olympic team this year.

With Price, Lindgren, and McNiven ahead of him he's got lots of time. Maybe by the time he's 25 or so he's ready to make an impact. Still only 22.

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I know no one wants to hear this but I'm going to post it anyway:

2012 Ivan Hlinka U18 Memorial Tournament – Gold Medal
QMJHL President's Cup Championship 2013
Memorial Cup Championship 2013
IIHF World U20 Championships – Gold Medal 2015
Spengler Cup 2016 - Gold Medal

I see the same issues the rest of you see...but I also see a lot of winning. Having a winner's mentality and being experienced in high pressure situations is only a good thing. The other thing I'll say about Fucale is he doesn't sit on a high horse. Never heard a word of complaint when he was sent to Brampton. Just played away. When he was picked to go to Davos he played really well and helped Canada win. Don't be shocked if he's the 3rd goalie for Canada's Olympic team this year.

With Price, Lindgren, and McNiven ahead of him he's got lots of time. Maybe by the time he's 25 or so he's ready to make an impact. Still only 22.
I did say he does much better in the playoffs but he's not going to get the chance to do well in the playoffs if he can't stop the puck in the regular season unless he's got a good offense in front of him. I don't see why he would have anything to say about being sent to the ECHL, the guy had a 3.13 gaa in the AHL, on what grounds could he complain?

Since Sean Burke works for the Habs and assistant GM for Team Canada, if the NHLers don't go (which if they don't I think there's a lockout for sure in 2 years) it's certainly in his favor. Plus it's not like Laval would need him since they will have Lindgren and can just bring up McNiven to replace him. That's impressive depth when you have one of the top goalies in the AHL and the CHL goalie of the year in the ECHL assuming that's where he ends up since it makes more sense for him to play a lot vs sitting much of the time in the AHL.

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