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07-17-2017, 09:09 AM
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Pacioretty will at least get the Bobby Ryan contract: 7 years @ 7.25.
I could see him getting even more, just hope it's not from us. I think he's worth between 6-6.5.
and as our wingers develop, i would move him in a similar type deal. 2 young forwards and a first

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07-17-2017, 09:12 AM
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If people want to trade PAC. For a centre, could a trade for Dylan Strome work? I think Arizona adds, what would make this work?
That's actually a pretty interesting deal. I think Arizona is looking to emerge and having a Pacioretty would be a major add for them. With Keller surpassing Strome, plus the addition of Stepan, Strome could be had.

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07-17-2017, 09:26 AM
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07-17-2017, 09:34 AM
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Morrow and Jerabek both bring more skill and are cheaper than Davidson, so makes sense.

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07-17-2017, 09:40 AM
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Morrow and Jerabek both bring more skill and are cheaper than Davidson, so makes sense.
I prefer Morrow at 650,000 than Davidson at 1.425.

For now:

Alzner-Weber
Schlemko-Petry
Jerabek-Benn
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07-17-2017, 09:42 AM
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I prefer Morrow at 650,000 than Davidson at 1.425.

For now:

Alzner-Weber
Schlemko-Petry
Jerabek-Benn
Morrow
We also have Lernout a phone call away in Laval if we want a bigger more defensive body in case of injury.

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07-17-2017, 10:14 AM
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I'd rather hold on to Davidson than trade him for nothing. He was very good for EDM before his injury. Also I'm far from sold on Strome, that skating is very mediocre.

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07-17-2017, 10:27 AM
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I think Davidson would be used in a trade to give a team cap relief.

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07-17-2017, 10:27 AM
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Strome was my reclamation pick if we could get him cheap. For Patches, obviously Strome is just coming back to balance things as he is not remotely close to being the main piece coming back.

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07-17-2017, 10:31 AM
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I think Davidson would be used in a trade to give a team cap relief.
I think the Canadiens thought Davidson would have been claimed in the Expansion draft.

He wasn't in the plans for next season.

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07-17-2017, 10:51 AM
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I wanted Radulov because the team needed his play and points and as a UFA we were getting nothing back for him and there is no other UFA with which to replace him. So even at his age I wanted him.

Having said that, I think if a team wants to be a perennial contender it needs to add top youth at the expense of older players, even real good ones. Teams that sign a bunch of 29-30 year old guys long term at about UFA rates are basically destroying themselves in my view. For example, I think the Caps are done.

We have Price and Weber long term. I think it would be a mistake to add Patches to that list. I think he gets $8-$9M long term.

That contract and the fact that while a great and top scorer, he plays a self-professed perimeter game makes me want to trade him.

The Sharks were to the finals 2 years ago, but didnt come close to it this year. They are an old team and time is about out for them. They have Thornton, Couture and Hertl as top 9 C. Their winger depth is brutal with only Pavelski able to score. Offer them Patches for Couture or possibly Hertl. Do not know much about Hertl except Shark fans see him as the guy to replace Thornton and love him, though I do not see the numbers yet. Anyway, they are deep this year at center.
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(SCHLOCK SITE SPEWING GARBAGE RUMORS)

I guess we can have a low pick for him.

"I was whispered that Brandon Davidson is available in the Canadiens ... Did Marc Bergevin realize that we can have too many defenders?"
Whoever "whispered" anything around that site's scavengers has to be an idiot. Yeah, count on them to keep it a secret. Donald Jr. wants to know if he can use the site for opposition research.

Or maybe, it's just a convenient sieve.


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07-17-2017, 11:40 AM
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I think the Canadiens thought Davidson would have been claimed in the Expansion draft.

He wasn't in the plans for next season.
Donald Trump school of journalism!

People are saying...

I've heard from some very important people...

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Donald Trump school of journalism!

People are saying...

I've heard from some very important people...
Who cares if it's true or not. It's a forum and we talk hockey!

Davidson for Carl Soberberg ? Would you do it ? Julien knows him well and he could come back at 45-50pts next year.

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Donald Trump school of journalism!

People are saying...

I've heard from some very important people...
We talk shlockey!

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07-17-2017, 11:56 AM
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Who cares if it's true or not. It's a forum and we talk hockey!

Davidson for Carl Soberberg ? Would you do it ? Julien knows him well and he could come back at 45-50pts next year.
Yup in a heartbeat. He'd be a fine number 2.

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07-17-2017, 12:13 PM
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Pacioretty will at least get the Bobby Ryan contract: 7 years @ 7.25.
I could see him getting even more, just hope it's not from us. I think he's worth between 6-6.5.
His agent will ask for a lot more than that.

Initial ask will probably be around 9-10m, then they will negotiate down to between 8-9. That's way too much for Max.

I would pay absolutely no more than 7. Trade would be best.

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Yup in a heartbeat. He'd be a fine number 2.
I really like him in Boston. Always looked at him like a bigger and better eller(what people wanted eller to become). Literally everyone in Colorado had a poor season last year they were just truly awful. His contract could be a huge concern if he doesn't bounce back to anything close to what his production was. Big risk but I would take it if it is just a dump dump for Colorado.

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Should we offer a contract/pto to Chris Lee?
http://allhabs.net/free-agency-could...iens-blueline/

Defenseman who produced a ton of points in the khl, but is 36 years old

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Hopefully but Duchene seems like the wrong bet for that. By all accounts Sakic has been very greedy and asking for more than he's worth.

The type of offers I'd find acceptable for Duchene would be something like Lernout, Juulsen, 1st, 2nd. All futures. I'd not give Gallagher, Lehkonen. I might trade Galchenyuk one on one though on the basis that I'd believe in Duchene's resurrection and that we need a C right now.
Duchene is a total wild card right now, his value could be zero to one hundred. On that basis, the only sane way to deal is for futures, which are also wild cards. It would be very risky to trade proven assets for a guy that scored at a 14 point pace his last 30 games.

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07-17-2017, 05:28 PM
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Should we offer a contract/pto to Chris Lee?
http://allhabs.net/free-agency-could...iens-blueline/

Defenseman who produced a ton of points in the khl, but is 36 years old
It would be cool to see him break into the nhl at 36 but do I want to be the team that tries it?

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Should we offer a contract/pto to Chris Lee?
http://allhabs.net/free-agency-could...iens-blueline/

Defenseman who produced a ton of points in the khl, but is 36 years old
Hey! We could hire the ref!

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Makes sense that they trade Davidson, we have too many depth dmen.

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If people want to trade PAC. For a centre, could a trade for Dylan Strome work? I think Arizona adds, what would make this work?
Not sold on Dylan Strome, his skating needs a lot of work and his puck skills don't make up for it imo. I wouldn't move Pacioretty for him, that's for sure.

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Who cares if it's true or not. It's a forum and we talk hockey!

Davidson for Carl Soberberg ? Would you do it ? Julien knows him well and he could come back at 45-50pts next year.
On the boards, no issue. From a "journalist" not the same thing.

I wouldn't. I like Yeti and would have traded for him as a no. 3 or 2 at best. We already have Danault and Plex in that role so don't need more mid tier centres. We need a 1 and Chucky can play on 2nd or wing if he can't cut it at centre, again. Still leaves Danault as 1 and Plex as 2. Soderberg isnt really an improvement on anyone we have so why lose a pmd that we need for a centre we don't?

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