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04-09-2008, 12:15 PM
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Wow, no "Gainey" yet?

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You were not included in the 'who'...

You dont matter.
Get out of my thread, you fight like a girl.

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this thread is getting me excited, bring on huet

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Huet's performance in Washington was/is beyond Gainey's control and almost certainly wasn't a factor in his decision. A GM cannot refrain from making a deal because he fears that it will help the opposing team, the focus is on bolstering your own club (present and future tense).

The rationale for the move was expressed admirably (and IMO accurately) by mcphee. Though I would characterize the decision as more of a challenge to Price to step into the starting role rather than an expression of doubt in Huet's abilities.
That'd be a good fly on the wall issue. Did Carbo or Melanson, have a direct opinion that influenced Gainey ? Did Gainey say he was planning something, and what do you guys think ? Did Gainey just ask how they thought the goaltending would play out down teh stretch, and Gainey said, well if that's the case, let's make it very clear.

No idea. I'd love to be party to how these things evolve. Then again, they probably involve alcohol and blackmail so...

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I mean... if we have to play the Caps at some point.. that would be very ... uncomfortable knowing he gave Huet to Washington for nothing... or next to nothing..

He could very well end his own playoff run by a panic trade at the deadline.
Bob doesn't sweat. He knows no fear.

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Said like a true hooker on a street corner ...

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I mean... if we have to play the Caps at some point.. that would be very ... uncomfortable knowing he gave Huet to Washington for nothing... or next to nothing..

He could very well end his own playoff run by a panic trade at the deadline.
How do you consider the Huet trade as a panic trade? It wasn't like Patrick Roy's trade in the mid 90s. You trade "your #1" goalie at the deadline is more like a calculated risk because you have faith into your #2 goalie. A panic trade is more like what Don Waddell did last year... Trading for Tkachuk (so many draft picks).. trading for Zhitnik (Coburn)... He sacrificed so much for these two players because he really wanted to make the playoffs last year.

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Considering the frightening displays of skill the Habs exhibit up front, I'd fear a plastic cutout goalie more than Huet.

They'd light up Huet's inability to track the puck and cover the upper half.

Habs in 4.

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Bob doesn't sweat. He knows no fear.
Agreed, this is him telling the rest of management what they can do with their opinions regarding Huet:



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Said like a true hooker on a street corner ...
Lets leave our mamma's out of this.

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Bob doesn't sweat. He knows no fear.
Fear fears Bob.

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Wow, no "Gainey" yet?
Thanks for getting it out of the way. Now, imagine huet actually beats us in the playoffs. I can just picture an entire thread with every single post being the notorious Gainey

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You guys should know the motto by now, if there is no fire, create one. That's been the underlying theme for all the haters. See how Bigtimer and Gainey1 have been pretty quiet the last 2 months.

Now only if we can get Habs to shut her pie hole ...

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That'd be a good fly on the wall issue. Did Carbo or Melanson, have a direct opinion that influenced Gainey ? Did Gainey say he was planning something, and what do you guys think ? Did Gainey just ask how they thought the goaltending would play out down teh stretch, and Gainey said, well if that's the case, let's make it very clear.

No idea. I'd love to be party to how these things evolve. Then again, they probably involve alcohol and blackmail so...
great point i happen to think they were asked along with some vets from the team, i think the question might have been something along the lines of "who do you have more confidence with moving forward to this years playoffs?" the answer was Price.

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You guys should know the motto by now, if there is no fire, create one. That's been the underlying theme for all the haters. See how Bigtimer and Gainey1 have been pretty quiet the last 2 months.

Now only if we can get Habs to shut her pie hole ...
lol you think I'm a girl. You probably had dirty thoughts about me, sorry to let your fantasy die.

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04-09-2008, 12:33 PM
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That'd be a good fly on the wall issue. Did Carbo or Melanson, have a direct opinion that influenced Gainey ? Did Gainey say he was planning something, and what do you guys think ? Did Gainey just ask how they thought the goaltending would play out down teh stretch, and Gainey said, well if that's the case, let's make it very clear.

No idea. I'd love to be party to how these things evolve. Then again, they probably involve alcohol and blackmail so...
I'm as certain as outsider can be that Gainey consulted with Carbonneau and Melanson, it only makes sense. Whether any of them had a definitive point of view on the trade or whether a consensus was formed is something we'll never know.

It seems reasonable to me that with an entrenched number 1a net minder (one who was/is set to become a UFA) and a potential franchise 1b waiting patiently in the wings (one who perhaps needed a push) the deal was consummated. The real bone of contention around here appears to be the return or alternatively the risk vs. the return (the former is debatable the latter not so much).

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04-09-2008, 12:34 PM
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I think Gainey figured the kid's better right now, just out and out better, and might be even better if we gave him a clear job. If he didn't think Huet could bring him there, the decision got easier. He never told me this though, I'm guessing.
You might be guessing, but you guessed right. In fact, Pierre Boivin DID say almost this exact thing on CKAC the other night.

Boivin's explanation:

Once the Habs brass concluded that not only was Carey the goalie of the future, but also the guy they wanted to get the experience NOW, then the proper and gentlemanly thing to do for Cristobal, which had the additional benefit of not risking team chemistry, was to move him to a team that needed his services.

I would add that the Habs KNEW they had ZERO games left against Washington, so if Huet played well, he would just be beating teams that might have made the Habs route to the playoffs easier at the same time.

This move was a VERY calculated risk, not at all a "panic" move.

Bob knew we were almost assuredly in the playoffs, and now the team had to get some experience playing for Lord Stanley's Cup. Why invest that experience in a guy that was NOT going to be back next year, one that had been made clear (make no mistake, Huet signalled this very clearly).

I had previously been in favour of keeping Huet IF he would be our #1 this year, and also ASSUMING he was willing to re-sign for two years. Without those assumptions in play, trading him was totally the right move, whether or not he helped Washington.

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Then again, they probably involve alcohol and blackmail so...
Oh, and dark sweaty sauna rooms too.....

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Huet is a choker and he'd prove that fact against the Habs.

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Gainey does not seem to the type to sweat over a decision he has made. His actions always appear thought through, panic free and he will live with how the chips fall without blinking.

Good luck to Huet.

But.... better luck to the Habs.


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the proper and gentlemanly thing to do for Cristobal, which had the additional benefit of not risking team chemistry.
I guess I'm just too risk adverse in style to go for these kinds of shananigans. I say keep both goalies. The risk/reward equation didn't work for me at all.

I must confess that Gainey did surprise me. This took courage.

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lol you think I'm a girl. You probably had dirty thoughts about me, sorry to let your fantasy die.
EDIT ahhh this is stupid ...

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I mean... if we have to play the Caps at some point.. that would be very ... uncomfortable knowing he gave Huet to Washington for nothing... or next to nothing..

He could very well end his own playoff run by a panic trade at the deadline.
I don't sweat it at any given time.

Huet in, means Cam Ward out... as far as I know, Ward is the one who took us out of the playoffs.

If we play Price against Huet... I am confident... and if we play Price against Huet in overtime, I am even more confident.

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I doubt the Habs Caps meet in the east finals.

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