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04-09-2008, 01:45 PM
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The merits of the Huet transaction aside, I also reject this hypothesis on the basis that Gainey does not sweat.

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04-09-2008, 01:47 PM
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There might be some sweat forming on Gainey's brow if Price hadn't stepped up and played so well down the stretch.

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04-09-2008, 01:52 PM
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Nope.

Even if the Habs play the Caps, I'm pretty confident that the Habs would totally expose Huet in a 7 game playoff series.

And I don't know why people still say that a 2nd round pick was a bad return for Huet when he's a pending UFA and Ilya Bryzgalov, a goalie on Huet's level was claimed off waivers for gosh's sake.

I'm glad to see Huet playing well, but we've seen him get hot before. Unfortunately for the Caps, a cold stretch is probably looming around the corner...

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04-09-2008, 01:56 PM
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The Huet trade was a bad one. Look how much the Oilers got for Roloson.

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04-09-2008, 02:00 PM
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I'm as certain as outsider can be that Gainey consulted with Carbonneau and Melanson, it only makes sense. Whether any of them had a definitive point of view on the trade or whether a consensus was formed is something we'll never know.

It seems reasonable to me that with an entrenched number 1a net minder (one who was/is set to become a UFA) and a potential franchise 1b waiting patiently in the wings (one who perhaps needed a push) the deal was consummated. The real bone of contention around here appears to be the return or alternatively the risk vs. the return (the former is debatable the latter not so much).
You used consumnated and bone in the same post.




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04-09-2008, 02:01 PM
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He could very well end his own playoff run by a panic trade at the deadline.
You state this as if it's fact. The only real fact is, you don't have a clue.

My guess....is that Bob doesn't sweat.

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04-09-2008, 02:01 PM
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The Huet trade was a bad one. Look how much the Oilers got for Roloson.
I don't think you can compare this year's deadline with the year the Oiler's obtained Roloson. The market wasn't great for goaltenders this year, for example...how much did Anaheim get for Bryzgalov?

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04-09-2008, 02:03 PM
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The Huet trade was a bad one. Look how much the Oilers got for Roloson.
You mean what Minny got for Roloson. And that was 2 years ago. The market return for goalies was set by Bryzgalov when he was claimed off waivers.

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I don't think Gainey sweats over anything.

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04-09-2008, 02:07 PM
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For the 9790th time, if Huet was still here, even as ''insurance'', Price would NOT have taken the strides he has taken since the deadline. He needed to be made the UNQUESTIONED #1 goalie and play almost every game down the stretch to get to the next stage of his development. Panic trade? whatever, clearly a poor attempt at ripping Gainey since there isn't much else to rip on at this point.

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04-09-2008, 02:10 PM
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I think Gainey figured the kid's better right now, just out and out better, and might be even better if we gave him a clear job. If he didn't think Huet could bring him there, the decision got easier. He never told me this though, I'm guessing.

Decision was not solely based on this year. All the stress of the end of season and playoff will be on Price and he will develop tremendously because of it, which he wouldn't of if Huet was still here.

Why invest in a goalie that was not going to be here next year? Playoff experience is invaluable and would of been wasted if experienced by Huet instead of Price.

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04-09-2008, 02:11 PM
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Decision was not solely based on this year. All the stress of the end of season and playoff will be on Price and he will develop tremendously because of it, which he wouldn't of if Huet was still here.

Why invest in a goalie that was not going to be here next year? Playoff experience is invaluable and would of been wasted if experienced by Huet instead of Price.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Gainey sweat?

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04-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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When he arrived in the America, Cortez burnt his ships in order to motivate his troops as they could no longer back down from their mission. I see the Huet trade as more or less the same thing; Gainey removed Price safety net, and in the process motivated him to deserve his job as a starter. I'm not saying it wasn't a risky strategy, nor that it could have worked with any other player, but that's how I see it.

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04-09-2008, 02:25 PM
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Neil Young's "Gainey The Killer":


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This was anything but a panic move. Gainey made a smart decision based on the team's future. Even if they lose to Huet in the playoffs, the fact that Price will have gained experience down the stretch and in the playoffs will make this team better in the future. Also, if the Habs make it to play the Capitals, that would mean that both teams have made it to the East Finals. If the team makes it that far, that's more of an endorsement for Gainey than grounds for criticism.

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04-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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Sorry but, it could not be a panic move:

Gainey + Panic = Blue Screen Error

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no. we'd win

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04-09-2008, 02:38 PM
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Gainey's autonomic nervous system does permit sweat.

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04-09-2008, 02:44 PM
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1- not a panic move, it was in the plans all along
2- we got market value for huet - phoenix got bryzgalov (a better goalie) for free
3- price would outplay huet in a series
4- gainey eats kittens for breakfast and does not sweat

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04-09-2008, 02:47 PM
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Can someone please answer me this question?

What the **** is a tad?

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04-09-2008, 02:52 PM
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When he arrived in the America, Cortez burnt his ships in order to motivate his troops as they could no longer back down from their mission. I see the Huet trade as more or less the same thing; Gainey removed Price safety net, and in the process motivated him to deserve his job as a starter. I'm not saying it wasn't a risky strategy, nor that it could have worked with any other player, but that's how I see it.
When this thread started I would've bet 100 bucks that there would be no Cortez mention, but here we are. That's why I keep coming back, you never know what you're going to get.

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Can someone please answer me this question?

What the **** is a tad?
a little bit.

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04-09-2008, 02:59 PM
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I think Huet is a good goalie but I think Gainey made the right choice either way. Huet has a chance to get a long term contract with another team because the Habs never would have had him in the plans. It was a trade for business and I think it ultametly made sense even if Huet does well. Price is the future and he costs less than 2.5 million or so he is making this year.

I think the habs have done better with Price to be honest. The habs have been a step further with Price after the trade and I think he will only get better.

I still like Huet and could help the Caps but they are not going far. Probably one series maybe.

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