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In Memoriam: Former NHL player deaths (Update: Pierre Pilote)

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09-10-2017, 12:31 PM
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09-10-2017, 12:34 PM
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Oh Boy. Pierre Pilote. One of my favorites as a kid. What a terrific player he was. 85. Thats pretty good innings. Long life. RIP

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09-10-2017, 12:37 PM
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Pierre Pilote

Prime example used by youth hockey coaches to encourage smallish players, "Not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog."

Many memories of him playing head - to - head with the Howes, Beliveaus, Frank Mahovlich, etc.

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09-10-2017, 12:48 PM
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Pilote - one of my first favourite players :/

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09-10-2017, 01:00 PM
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... nice little 5min interview with clips from an old Bobby Orr series featuring Pierre Pilote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix9FgQKU7lY

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The three-time Norris trophy winner (1963, 1964, 1965) (6-time finalist in all), 5-time 1st-Team all-star (1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967), 3-time 2nd-team all-star (1960, 1961, 1962) NHL playoff-point leader in 1961 when his Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup championship, and Pilote scored or assisted the winning or tying goal in every Blackhawks victory that year so no surprise when he became later that the summer the Chicago captain and remained so for 7 seasons.



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Pierre Pilote was an aggressive defenseman who could play the body and rush the puck effectively... a skilled playmaker who consistently ranked amongst the top scoring defenseman of his day.
And my reply to a poster on the main NHL board who stated that Duncan Keith was "a close second" in terms of greatest Hawks dmen ever: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...07&postcount=4


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09-10-2017, 01:20 PM
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And my reply to a poster on the main NHL board who stated that Duncan Keith was "a close second" in terms of greatest Hawks dmen ever: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...07&postcount=4
... attaway VanIsle... straighten those young whippersnappers out.

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09-10-2017, 07:33 PM
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Pilote scored the winning or tying goal in every Blackhawks victory that year
That is an impressive feat. Especially for a defenceman in that era.


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09-10-2017, 08:50 PM
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Classic Pierre Pilote

Game 7 of the 1965 SC Finals gets burned badly off the opening faceoff resulting in the GW goal but watch the bounce back, 1:25 to 1:35 into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPCPSv5dHCo

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09-10-2017, 09:14 PM
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That is an impressive feat. Especially for a defenceman in that era.
But not actually true. Pilote scored 3 goals in 1961, impressive still, but not the requisite 8 that the statement implies. Perhaps VI meant scored or assisted on every GWG?

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09-10-2017, 10:16 PM
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But not actually true. Pilote scored 3 goals in 1961, impressive still, but not the requisite 8 that the statement implies. Perhaps VI meant scored or assisted on every GWG?


I meant 'helped score'.

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09-13-2017, 02:42 PM
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Jeff Parker died Monday. Blaming his NHL hockey career for his death

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09-13-2017, 06:07 PM
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Jeff Parker died Monday. Blaming his NHL hockey career for his death
Yes, more here on that.... http://www.tsn.ca/brain-of-former-nh...-says-1.855458

In his early 50's. Played about 141 NHL games mostly as a checking fwd. Product of Minnesota & Michigan State.... Quality of life obviously dramatically affected... Died of an infection that affected his heart & lungs so what connection to CTE, post concussion syndrome not sure, though with the brain the bodies supercomputer I guess its possible... regardless its pretty sad..... thats just too soon to be dying.... though from the sounds of it living & life pretty painful, bleak.... RIP...

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09-14-2017, 01:38 AM
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Duke Harris

Sorry to hear about Duke Harris. A fan favorite for the Chicago Cougars in the 70's. Not because of great skill, but because he was an Everyman who fans could identify with. Duke had his combover and was not a great skater - it seemed like he used his stick to keep himself from falling. But he put in the effort and fans appreciated that. Plus, they could yell "DUUUUUKE!". And he could score goals, actually scored 30 for the Houston Aeros in the WHA's first year.

Interesting side note: I brought my little brother to a Cougars game in the mid-70's, he was 12 or 13 at the time. The venue was the International Amphitheater, an old barn that hosted the infamous 1968 Democratic Convention and had seen better days. There was a definite scarcity of restrooms in the building, and I remember that the main concourse was partially filled with huge piles of wood or other construction materials. Taking a cue from other patrons, we actually ducked behind one of the piles in order to take a leak! I think I can accurately say it's the only time in my life that I've urinated right in a public concourse at a major sporting event.

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09-14-2017, 11:39 AM
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...I think I can accurately say it's the only time in my life that I've urinated right in a public concourse at a major sporting event.
... I sure hope so (only time). .... reminds me a bit of a line ex-Leaf & briefly Minnesota North Star Jim McKenny who was quite the Party Boy and drinker... how he knew of "every ally & public place in the city of Toronto where he could go & take a leak without being spotted".... went on to a long-time gig as a Sports Reporter with CITY TV post career.

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09-15-2017, 02:46 PM
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Sad that Pilote had to die with his legacy unfairly tarnished by not being named to the NHL 's top 100 list

I mean players don't care about that stuff while they play, but it's hard not to think about your legacy after retirement. And it must have been really puzzling for Pilote, since a better question than whether he belongs in the top 100, is whether he belongs in the top 50.

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09-15-2017, 11:05 PM
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I agree, it was a huge oversight for the NHL to omit Pilote from the top 100. They would have done better to just limit the list to retired players only, instead of trying to include relatively young guys who are mid-career (I mean, Jonathan Toews?).

Pilote was a pioneer as an offensive defenseman, a great quarterback on the power play. His partner was Elmer "Moose" Vasko, the biggest player in the league at the time at 6' 3". Moose was a gentle giant who didn't hit much and when he did, it was perfunctory, not trying to kill guys the way defensemen did in later years.

Pilote played with a definite edge, but not nearly as nasty as guys like Chelios and Pronger. One unfortunate technique that I think Pilote pioneered was the "pitchfork" method of putting his stick in front of the offensive player as he was between Pilote and the boards, thus impeding his progress as you wedge him into the boards. The refs let it go because it wasn't clearly hooking, and it became prevalent around the league. Probably would be called hooking today. At least in the regular season.

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