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04-15-2008, 09:44 PM
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It's not just the playoffs, Streit is overall terrible on defence as we saw during the regular season and he simply isn't effective enough to play forward. He's had many chances to redeem himself in the playoffs but he hasn't delivered and he was a huge liability today.
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no one on Montreal has really stood out to be a superstar these playoffs thus far, Streit is a great team player who played a huge role in getting this team to the top of the eastern conference.

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04-15-2008, 09:51 PM
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He has been playing like garbage but I think he is still hurt.

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04-15-2008, 09:55 PM
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Streit is limited but he has his uses. Depends of the contract he's asking.

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04-15-2008, 09:58 PM
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On most game he was playing forward, PP was more than half his playtime. He didnt play more than 25 games as a D this year.(10 at the start of the season, and a couple here and there)
Looking at the stats, he played 400 at Forward and 500 at defense.

He played pretty equal both ways.

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04-15-2008, 10:05 PM
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no one on Montreal has really stood out to be a superstar these playoffs thus far, Streit is a great team player who played a huge role in getting this team to the top of the eastern conference.
Carey Price? Roman Hamrlik...?

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04-15-2008, 10:09 PM
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Sometimes I feel like other people here know hockey better than myself. But then I read these posts bashing Streit and I realize I'm not as dumb as some people here.

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His asking price was going high during the regular season, it s going down now

Less than 3M

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Streit out, Valentenko in...simple as that.

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04-15-2008, 10:15 PM
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Sometimes I feel like other people here know hockey better than myself. But then I read these posts bashing Streit and I realize I'm not as dumb as some people here.
I guess you should stop looking at his stats then and watch him play in the playoffs.

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04-15-2008, 10:24 PM
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Poor mans Souray
what are you talkin about???

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04-15-2008, 10:38 PM
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Streit out, Valentenko in...simple as that.
If Valentenko was ready he'd be in the NHL. get real! The organisation knows the prospects more than we do.

He could not run our powerplay nor play most of the time on forward. Streit doesn't play defense most of the time, how any other d man could replace him??? Could Tank be 3rd scorer on the east leading team???

It's just like you're throwing a cool name out there just for the sake of it.. Have you even seen him play on a regular basis???? How can you know????

Let's have an all AHL league roster. Let's sit streit, Ryder, Dandenault and cie and bring up some guys with foreign names that sound cool wich I haven't even see play before.


Just think about what you are saying, you'll find it funny.

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If Streit ever gets it going and he will eventually, I'll be the first one to remind everybody of this thread.

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04-15-2008, 10:46 PM
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He didn't play forward as much as the OP thinks. It was almost half the season each position.

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04-15-2008, 10:47 PM
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I am not happy with Streit's play this postseason thus far. However, he has been a valuable asset in his 2 years here. I don't mind the fact he's hurting his contract worth for next year. As long as it's affordable and prudent, why give up on a guy with his versatility.

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04-15-2008, 10:49 PM
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I am not happy with Streit's play this postseason thus far. However, he has been a valuable asset in his 2 years here. I don't mind the fact he's hurting his contract worth for next year. As long as it's affordable and prudent, why give up on a guy with his versatility.
His postseason won't affect his contract. A stupid GM will offer over $3 million solely based on his regular season stats.

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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?

Don't sign your 3rd highest scorer becazuse he makes some mistakes on D ???
RIDCULOUS !!!
He has gotten better every year despite jumping from position to position, line to line.

How about instead : don't sign him to Souray / McCabe type of salary.
Sign him for 2.5 - 3 Million and enjoy what he can bring to the team.

Some people just have to complain about something...
Shame on you !

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04-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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Streit out, Valentenko in...simple as that.
Ahh, I love the "eternal rebuilders" the populate the woodwork here.

Valentenko - if you've seen him play at all - is not even remotely like Streit and if we lose Streit, we need another offensive defenseman.

We also cannot dress an entire line-up of 20 year olds.

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He plays about 40-50% of his ES time at forward.
He plays pretty much all the time forward during es now... He only goes back to defense if there's an injury, or penalty, or powerplay. He's not really a defense player and I don't know why they did in the playoff series.

But, I think it was you, or someone else that said he was 5th with even strength points, which would be hard for us to replace.

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He plays pretty much all the time forward during es now... He only goes back to defense if there's an injury, or penalty, or powerplay. He's not really a defense player and I don't know why they did in the playoff series.

But, I think it was you, or someone else that said he was 5th with even strength points, which would be hard for us to replace.
As others have stated, he plays where is needed. This year he played about 50% as an ES forward and 50% as a D. Whatever the reason, those are the facts. His forward time was really not as much as some people make it out to be. He began the year on D, got moved up in the middle, then finished it on D.

FYI, this very fact is why we should keep him. Dandenault is a forward now and will likely never skate a shift back there for us again (if he lasts beyond this season in Montreal). One rover is a huge asset in the NHL these days.

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I say sign if it'll cost us less than 2.5 per, other than that I think it's to much for a 3rd liner... He's been a serviceable player during the regular season but boy has he been on the bottom tier of performers this series and trust me, that's pretty low...

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04-16-2008, 02:26 AM
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I want to know your answer to the two following questions.
-If Streit walks away at the end of the year, who can the Habs potentially put on the point during the PP (either from UFA or from the team)?
-Is Streit good enough as a defenseman to crack the Habs' top 6 D? Is he better than Komisarek, Markov, Hamrlik, O'Byrne, Bouillon, Gorges?

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I say sign if it'll cost us less than 2.5 per, other than that I think it's to much for a 3rd liner... He's been a serviceable player during the regular season but boy has he been on the bottom tier of performers this series and trust me, that's pretty low...
I agree. 2.5 seems right. He'll probably get more elsewhere, but maybe not. He might also improve his defensive play and earn the money in a big way. He gets better all the time. If he had a large partner who could bail him out physically and clean up turnovers....AND he raised his game, he might be serviceable as a third pairing guy in the future.

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04-16-2008, 02:49 AM
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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?
Considering the money he will get, its almost a no brainer to let him walk

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He plays pretty much all the time forward during es now... He only goes back to defense if there's an injury, or penalty, or powerplay. He's not really a defense player and I don't know why they did in the playoff series.

But, I think it was you, or someone else that said he was 5th with even strength points, which would be hard for us to replace.
I agree.. but I was just giving the stats. He's played an even amount of forward in comparison to defense this season.

And yeah, it was me. He was actually 4th (behind Kovalev, Pleks, and Kosty Sr) in ES points.

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I want to know your answer to the two following questions.
-If Streit walks away at the end of the year, who can the Habs potentially put on the point during the PP (either from UFA or from the team)?
-Is Streit good enough as a defenseman to crack the Habs' top 6 D? Is he better than Komisarek, Markov, Hamrlik, O'Byrne, Bouillon, Gorges?
1. Sergei Kostitsyn, Roman Hamrlik, Patrice Brisebois. None of them will do the job quite as good though.
2. Depending what you're looking for. If you need offense, he's better than O'Byrne and Boullion. If you want physicality, you take Bouillon or O'Byrne over him. If you want all around .. it's pretty even.

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