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04-16-2008, 02:54 AM
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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?
Seriously? M?

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04-16-2008, 03:17 AM
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guys the whole team has been contained, which is fine, they are learning how tight checking a playoff series can be. This is Streit's first north American playoff series, he will get tougher as the series progresses, hopefully which will progress as far as Thursday for Boston

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04-16-2008, 03:43 AM
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Depends what kind of money he is looking for and how loyal he can be.

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04-16-2008, 10:58 AM
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Streit should be signed, the real question is how much and how long would you sign him for?

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Anybody who thinks montreal shouldn't resign Streit is a TOTAL dork.

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04-16-2008, 11:07 AM
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Anybody who thinks montreal shouldn't resign Streit is a TOTAL dork.
Of course they should try but when a team offeres him 4 million will they be interested in matching?

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04-16-2008, 11:09 AM
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Of course they should try but when a team offeres him 4 million will they be interested in matching?
I would be.. not for that kind of cash. Maybe a 4-year deal for 4/4/1/1... 2.5 per year cap hit.. Thats the MAX i'd be willing to live with for him.

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04-16-2008, 11:14 AM
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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?
According the amount of contract? He puts up good offensive numbers but like Souray is a negative in the plus/minus stat. He has had only one good year...I think he is replaceable...I would offer him 2yr-5 million tops!

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04-16-2008, 11:33 AM
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I have my issues with Streit.
I don't want a longterm contract with him because it could block one of our prospects to replace him in 2 or 3 years. See Hainsey,Beauchemin in the past.

Some of those people that defend Streit also said that we were toast when we didnt re-sign Souray last year.
Some of those people also said that we should not trade Huet.

I could definately see Hamrlik replace Streit, he is paid 5.5m$(it could be a nice way to rentabilize his play more) and he has all the abilities to run the PP.

Of couse i'm not with the majority here and understand the critics.

I don't think that re-signing Streit would be a that bad of an idea tough,IMO 1 year deal would be ideal but not more than 2 years.

I love the guy he is a great human being just like Huet was but you have to make hockey decision and if Streit ask for the moon or a longterm contract you just show him the door, thats it.

Gainey risked to lose the big PP shot from Souray last summer. It worked fine.
Gainey risked to run with a rookie goaltender and trade his #1. It worked fine thus far.

We will see this summer but IMO without Streit we would be fine as a whole.

just my 2 cents.

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04-16-2008, 11:48 AM
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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?
You are looking at the glass 1/4 empty instead of 3/4 full.

Streit has been a key player for the Habs, thinking you can easily replace him shows you either didn't watch the games or didn't pay attention to the details.

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04-16-2008, 12:24 PM
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-He can't play defence.
-A.Kost can remplace him on the point.
-Is a third or fourth line foward.
-Has his season year.
-we have the dept to remplace him.

This is why I wouldn't sign him. Would you?
This guy is exceptionally soft and after a career year I doubt we will be able to sign him to a reasonable contract which would be for under $2M per. Alternately, I second this notion. I don't care how many PP points he gets. Those are easier to make up for than the goals he costs us at even strength.

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04-16-2008, 12:28 PM
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I like what Streit has brought to this team and he is definitely a big part of our power play, but if Souray was replaceable, I highly doubt Streit is irreplaceable. I've actually been defending Streit all year long, but when it comes to resigning him I agree with the majority 2 million for 2 years, no more really.
I think Streit will play a role at some point in the playoffs, but I just don't see him being an asset against teams like Boston or Philly. He would probably be more valuable on the PP against the Flyers, but at ES I can't see him being up for it physically.

I have only one solution for this team in the free agent market. Brian Rolston has the size and skill combo that this team needs. He's got a heavy shot and I think would be the perfect fit to replace Streit on the PP and Ryder as a top line RW. I think Ryder could be a decent bottom 6 guy if he takes a sizeable pay cut.

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I have my issues with Streit.
I don't want a longterm contract with him because it could block one of our prospects to replace him in 2 or 3 years. See Hainsey,Beauchemin in the past.
That's my exact thoughts about Streit signing a long term deal with the Habs. Because he's a pending UFA, I honestly think he want a long-term (3-4 years) contract. I'm also pretty sure he's going to get a lot of offers from other teams in need of someone to play on the point during PP.

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I have only one solution for this team in the free agent market. Brian Rolston has the size and skill combo that this team needs. He's got a heavy shot and I think would be the perfect fit to replace Streit on the PP and Ryder as a top line RW. I think Ryder could be a decent bottom 6 guy if he takes a sizeable pay cut.
Yeah, Brian Rolston could possibly replace Streit on the point and also replace Ryder on the 2nd line if both players are not re-signed.

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04-16-2008, 02:04 PM
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According the amount of contract? He puts up good offensive numbers but like Souray is a negative in the plus/minus stat. He has had only one good year...I think he is replaceable...I would offer him 2yr-5 million tops!
He's been in the NHL for two seasons. One year was good and one year was fantastic.

His minus rating sucked .. but as a forward he definitely isn't a minus player. Since mid-December he was EVEN at worst. He had a bad start, that's all.

Souray was like -209420499024x202499 .. there's a difference.

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04-16-2008, 02:36 PM
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Streit is a better version of Jeff Hamilton. He can pick up points on the PP, is more effective as a forward than as a dman. However, signing him for big money long term would be a mistake. Offer him a 2 year 2m-2.5m deal and tell him he's going to always play as a forward.
With that offer, he is long gone when he becomes a UFA on July 1. He wants to play d and if another team makes a commitment to only play him at d, offers a 3 or 4 year contract @ $3M, he is surely gone and for those that don't consider the contribution that he brings to the Habs, they will be happy until they see how well the Habs PP and d are next year.

Les Habs are not currently playing to their strength [style of play] when playing the Bruins, but they have adapted as best they can and are up 3-1 in the series with the next game being on home ice. At this point and for any other playoff series that has gone four games, Les Glorieux are in the best position, please realize that.

Sometimes, it is called winning ugly, for the doubters and concerned, be happy for the time being and go with the flow.




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04-16-2008, 02:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure some moron la Garth Snow or Don Wandell will offer him $4M. At that price let him go without second thoughts.

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04-16-2008, 03:12 PM
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I don't understand people who say that since replacing Souray with Streit worked this shows that we can let Streit go.

To me this is like saying don't need to keep Hamrlik. After all he's filled in Souray's spot in the lineup so surely we could save cap space by waiving Hamrlik and bringing up one of our many prospects who surely could replace Hamrlik.

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I have not been a Streit fan for a long time and these playoffs really highlight his shortcomings. That being said, it's all in the amount and length of the contract. I don't think he has done enough to merit a long term deal.

I would be ok for 4m (total) for 2 year given the depth we have coming up.

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04-16-2008, 04:43 PM
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I don't understand people who say that since replacing Souray with Streit worked this shows that we can let Streit go.

To me this is like saying don't need to keep Hamrlik. After all he's filled in Souray's spot in the lineup so surely we could save cap space by waiving Hamrlik and bringing up one of our many prospects who surely could replace Hamrlik.
People compare Souray to Streit because they are PP specialists. Many people/experts said that our PP would suffer without Souray's record goals by a D-man and it ended up being first in the league. Sure Streit had a hand in it's success, but Kovy, Markov and even Koivu are more important.

Now your comparing Hammer to Streit? There is no comparison to be made except that they both can play D. Hammer is like a combination of Rivet and Souray and is way more of a complete player than Streit. Hammer is signed for the next 3 years, we don't need to think about replacing him for a while, which is a good thing...

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04-16-2008, 04:52 PM
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Listen, we all know what he brings to this team, and what his flaws are

Point is he had 60 points as a UTILITY man..are you ****ing kidding me?

Now, he has looked ...ATROCIOUS (and im being nice) in the playoffs so far, like the guy cant do NOTHING right, and i dont think he has had 1 single successful powerplay in the zone, up the ice, rush. Hesmeesed it up every single time

Oh well, the good news is, he cant play any worse, and its only up from there, and were STILL winning 3-1 despite his play

GOOD news is, ALSO, he WONT be costing us 3 million after all

Gainey is REALLy takes playoff performances into consideration.

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What I've heard is that Streit wants to sign with a team that'll put him on defense.


Unfortunately for him, there are better players than him on the blueline. He's excellent on the PP, but he's easily the worst defenseman on the team.

Would you bench O'byrne or Gorges for him for the next year or two? I wouldn't.

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What I've heard is that Streit wants to sign with a team that'll put him on defense.


Unfortunately for him, there are better players than him on the blueline. He's excellent on the PP, but he's easily the worst defenseman on the team.

Would you bench O'byrne or Gorges for him for the next year or two? I wouldn't.
I wouldn't bench either for him on defense, now.

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What I've heard is that Streit wants to sign with a team that'll put him on defense.


Unfortunately for him, there are better players than him on the blueline. He's excellent on the PP, but he's easily the worst defenseman on the team.

Would you bench O'byrne or Gorges for him for the next year or two? I wouldn't.
Well then like you said, if this is true, its unfortunate for him

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