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The Pressbox Boys (Lats, Ryder, Grabo, O'B) + Dandy (we hope?).....(merged)

View Poll Results: Will we see Lats or Ryder again during the playoffs?
We will see Ryder sub out with a regular 8 12.70%
We will see Latendresse sub out with a regular 20 31.75%
We will see Ryder and Lats rotate out with a regular 32 50.79%
We won't see Ryder or Lats for the rest of the playoffs 3 4.76%
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04-24-2008, 10:03 AM
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Dandenault is useless. But it's going to take a loss for Carbo to change the lineup.

Brisebois was a turnover machine in game 7, but we ended up with a 5-0 win, so all is forgiven.

I don't know, hopefully we see the younger guys who helped us finish 1st place get a chance over the guys who weren't good enough to play most games in the regular season.
We lost 3 of 7 games with Dandeclown in the lineup. The record was 3-2 with Lats and 2-2 with Ryder.

Lats, Ryder and Dandenault all played in the 5-1 loss. Next game Lats and Ryder sit and Dandenault plays we we lose 5-4. And Dandenault is rewarded by playing in Game 7. Makes no sense.

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04-24-2008, 10:07 AM
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People are saying that Dandy at 8-9 minutes a game isn't hurting us, I could say the same for Ryder and Lats. At least if a injury were to arise or if a offensive player is needed on one of the top 2 lines they are there to make the jump over Dandy.

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04-24-2008, 10:08 AM
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one or both will be back as soon as we loose a game.

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04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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I just don't understand why Dandenault is playing. It kills any offensive potential for our third line. As I see it this this our major glaring weakness. Our third line does not compare to the other teams from the eastern conference and could become a major problem. I mean other teams have Drury, Carter and Staal on their third lines and we have Dandenault. We just don't match up and it's unfortunate because we could.

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04-24-2008, 10:15 AM
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Yes, you will see them again. Same thing with O'byrne...

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04-24-2008, 10:19 AM
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I just don't understand why Dandenault is playing. It kills any offensive potential for our third line. As I see it this this our major glaring weakness. Our third line does not compare to the other teams from the eastern conference and could become a major problem. I mean other teams have Drury, Carter and Staal on their third lines and we have Dandenault. We just don't match up and it's unfortunate because we could.
I think it has to do with Dandenault’s medical condition. Being out of the line-up during the playoffs would deteriorate his retardation and Carbo does not want to mess up with that now.

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04-24-2008, 10:29 AM
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Using this as a criteria, then 80% of our team mentally checked out against Boston. I thought Ryder was about average. He was shooting the puck and setup some good chances. He was even using the body once in awhile. All in all, he was certainly better and a bigger threat than Dandenault.

Dandenault has been mentally checked out the last two seasons and has been pretty much useless. Don't forget Mr. Experience was -11 this season.
I wouldn't say that, Ryder was in a class by himself when it comes to making bad plays. I expected him to come with a full head of steam and barely gave any effort. Sure he hit and passed, but he made some horrible decisions, and never once did he create a chance, or stage a breakout. He made some timely passes, but they were always a result of someone else's efforts. I've been a Ryder supporter all year, but now, I've run out of excuses for him. Ryder is still a good hockey player in my book, but he seems to lack the willingness to be in a Habs uniform.

Dandy might be -11, but that's not where his contributions end. He's solid two way, and while you might think that hits = forecheck, I think that his speed and the fact that he can in the zone quickly while being an offensive threat. I think that his -11 is him having trouble picking his moments and causing turnovers; lets not forget that he also had one really rough patch where he accumulated most of this -11. He was much better in the second half of the season where he played only once in a while and kept his minutes low. I like the fact that he has breakout potential, a decent pass, can do a timely hit and has lots of speed. Used correctly Dandy is a good player. A lot like Brisebois in a lot of ways.

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04-24-2008, 10:37 AM
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Maybe Ryder but not Latendresse

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I wouldn't say that, Ryder was in a class by himself when it comes to making bad plays. I expected him to come with a full head of steam and barely gave any effort. Sure he hit and passed, but he made some horrible decisions, and never once did he create a chance, or stage a breakout. He made some timely passes, but they were always a result of someone else's efforts. I've been a Ryder supporter all year, but now, I've run out of excuses for him. Ryder is still a good hockey player in my book, but he seems to lack the willingness to be in a Habs uniform.

Dandy might be -11, but that's not where his contributions end. He's solid two way, and while you might think that hits = forecheck, I think that his speed and the fact that he can in the zone quickly while being an offensive threat. I think that his -11 is him having trouble picking his moments and causing turnovers; lets not forget that he also had one really rough patch where he accumulated most of this -11. He was much better in the second half of the season where he played only once in a while and kept his minutes low. I like the fact that he has breakout potential, a decent pass, can do a timely hit and has lots of speed. Used correctly Dandy is a good player. A lot like Brisebois in a lot of ways.
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04-24-2008, 10:39 AM
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Some stats for the Dandenault lovers:

In the regular season:

Ryder 122 hits in 70 games.
Latendresse 134 hits in 73 games.

Dandenault 70 hits in 60 games.

Let's not over exaggerate the forechecking abilities of Dandenault. Ryder and Latendresse play more physically as shown by these stats.
you should cut those hits by 3 if you count the times where he barely touched the jersey and an other 80% for the ones where he barely tickled the opponent after skating full speed towards him. Atleast Latendresse makes an impact when he starts hitting.

Lappierre also has the same problem, i mean what the **** is wrong with those guys. Can't they lay a great hit just once?

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04-24-2008, 10:54 AM
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Lats or Dandenault

Lats or Dandenault, who would you prefer for tonight? My answer is Lats because he completes the line better with Lapy and Streit and last game, Dandenault didn't look good and only played 6 minutes.

Discuss ...

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04-24-2008, 10:55 AM
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Stewart... I'd like to see what he can bring in a playoff game

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Not a bad idea to bring Stewart, I think he desearves it!

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Lats, we need is big body

We do not need any speed skater, we need hockey players

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between those 2,it sucks but I gotta say Dandenault.

Lats brings nothing

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Lats, we need is big body

We do not need any speed skater, we need hockey players
ya a big body that only makes contact with the boards

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Lats has shown nothing in the games he played, stick with Dandy

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I just don't understand why Dandenault is playing. It kills any offensive potential for our third line. As I see it this this our major glaring weakness. Our third line does not compare to the other teams from the eastern conference and could become a major problem. I mean other teams have Drury, Carter and Staal on their third lines and we have Dandenault. We just don't match up and it's unfortunate because we could.
dandenault is playing on the fourth line

our 3rd line is begin-smolinski-kostopoulos, and i find they are a great shutdown/energy line, specially made for the playoffs

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Lats - Dandenault is invisible.

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Lats - Dandenault is invisible.
You must be 1 of the only ones that notice #84 out there...

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04-24-2008, 11:04 AM
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Does anyone remember how those two played in the 4 games against Philly this past season? That's more relevant than generalities, such as "Lats hits harder," or "Dandy's a better forechecker." I wasn't impressed with either in the series against Boston.

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04-24-2008, 11:05 AM
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Does anyone remember how those two played in the 4 games against Philly this past season? That's more relevant than generalities, such as "Lats hits harder," or "Dandy's a better forechecker." I wasn't impressed with either in the series against Boston.
Latendresse has 1 goal in 4 games.dandenault nothing.Ryder is actually a bit more on the score sheet maybe he will be the one that will play if Carbo decides to make a change

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I really like Latendresse, so I'm kinda biased on this question.

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