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The Pressbox Boys (Lats, Ryder, Grabo, O'B) + Dandy (we hope?).....(merged)

View Poll Results: Will we see Lats or Ryder again during the playoffs?
We will see Ryder sub out with a regular 8 12.70%
We will see Latendresse sub out with a regular 20 31.75%
We will see Ryder and Lats rotate out with a regular 32 50.79%
We won't see Ryder or Lats for the rest of the playoffs 3 4.76%
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04-24-2008, 12:06 PM
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I'd rather see Ryder, than Dandenault, then Latendresse.

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04-24-2008, 12:10 PM
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they need some size, and agressiveness, and new energy... go with Stewart!

dandy will get the first game, as already posted today. but hopefully we will see a couple of new faces this round

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04-24-2008, 12:12 PM
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Whats with this wanting to play Stewart over Lats? Stewart had 1 game in the NHL against a awful team played under 10 minutes remember its not like he was lighting it up in Hamilton he was ECHL last year might as well bring Baines up he is a better player than Stewart is. Lats or Ryder not Stewart. Stewart won't even make the Habs nexy year let alone putting him into a playoff game. Again where is this player from?
Because people are anti-Lats because he hasn't panned out to be the 30 goal power forward they hoped who dominates like Iginla. So therefore he is a lazy piece of garbage and should sit behind overachievers like Dandenault and Stewart no matter how crappy or inexperienced they are. I mean it's not like he's 20.

Lucic is 19, had 8 goals and 27 points, -2, 9% shooting, 12 minutes of ice time. Is 6'4" and 220lbs. The next Cam Neely

Lats is 20, had 16 goals (two years in a row) and 27 poitns, -2, 14% shooting, 12 minutes of ice time. Is 6'2" and 229lbs. Healthy scratch behind Dandenault.

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04-24-2008, 12:18 PM
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Stewart. Philly is a physical team. And since guys like Begin and Kostopolous have been having offensive opportunities because of the game they play. Stewart is the same type of player.

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04-24-2008, 12:18 PM
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This topis is moot. Dandy was playing right wing so the more logical person to replace him is Ryder. I will take either Ryder or Lats over Dandenault. Dandy was invisible in the 1st round but at least Ryder and Lats were hitting.

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04-24-2008, 12:43 PM
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You must be an #84 hater.
Im not a hater at all,I just think he needs a couple of weeks in Hamilton.Scoring 20 goals every year is nice but thats like scoring in every 4 games.It's very good but the problem is that in the other 3 games you don't notice him out there at all

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04-24-2008, 12:46 PM
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Alright I'm resold on Lats, Ive always loved Ryder, so why, why, why are we playing Dandenault, less hits, less points, -11, invisible.

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04-24-2008, 12:52 PM
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Im not a hater at all,I just think he needs a couple of weeks in Hamilton.Scoring 20 goals every year is nice but thats like scoring in every 4 games.It's very good but the problem is that in the other 3 games you don't notice him out there at all
So you're saying unless he scores he's not noticed? Playing 70+ games and 12 minutes a night at a -2 clip means that the majority of the time he is doing things that don't hurt the team. Certainly that is worth something? Like playing defense, being physical, neutralizing the opponents in some fashion. Those things are valued during a hockey game aren't they? -2 tell me he is doing a good job at all around hockey and not a liability to the team whatsoever.

Considering he is 20 and isn't hurting the team, why not play the guy?

If Dandenault plays 60+ games at -11, he is doing alot more to hurt the team than Lats. PLus he has absolutely no upside.

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04-24-2008, 12:56 PM
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Of course we'll see them again. Carbo's been using all his pieces to his advantage this year. He'd be silly not to use these extra bodies to his advantage and I'm sure he knows that. The Habs will lose a few games (at least, but probably not more ), and at least a few minor adjustments will be made.

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Latendresse, Grabovsky, Ryder

I was thinking about this today, with Lapierre's line being imho our weakest line (in ability... not physicallity) in our last series. Would you insert

Grabovsky, Ryder and Latendresse against the Flyers? I was thinking that in order to compete with the Flyers we need to be able to roll 4 productive lines

Personally I just don't see Lapierre being able to center an offensively oriented line. Smolinsky's line brings the Checking and Energy. I think the 3rd can be replaced

Streit/Lats - Grabo - Lats/Ryder
Streit - Lapierre - Ryder/Lats

I dunno im just not confident of us going far in the playoffs with Dandy, Lappy and Brisebois

What was our lineup again when we were rolling 3 offensive lines and the Smolinsky line. I think it was for 2 games before Koivu's injury?

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04-24-2008, 01:03 PM
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Latendresse is still useful. He's simpley having a hard time being in a teams who's goal is speed.

Grabo and Ryder are finished in MTL I hope.

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04-24-2008, 01:06 PM
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Lapierre- Streit- Dandy line contributed with one goal in game 7, arguably the goal that really gave us the confidence we needed to finish off Boston.

The line you're proposing will almost certainly not be more productive.

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04-24-2008, 01:08 PM
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Grabo and Ryder are finished in MTL I hope.
Same here. Too bad we couldn't get anything for Grabo at the deadline. Maybe Timmins can work on his strength training this Summer.

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Don't forget, Latendresse is still young ! Bertuzzi took i long time before performing!

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I think Bob, Guy and Kirk know more about what it takes to win than we do. They have good reasons to keep dress, or play, certain individuals.. things we will never know.

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Wait I'm not the only one that thinks Grabo isn't that great?

Its playoff time.

You don't tinker with lines if you are winning.
Plus Lapierre's line is the "shutdown" line.
Montreal is rolling with 2 offensive line, 1 shutdown, 1 energy. The only problem we'll run into is if the forwards don't drop down to help out the d-men as they did in Boston. We lost 3 games because our forwards got lazy.
If they are willing to help out, this series shouldn't be to long.

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Wait, we're ready to give up on Grabovski already???

It's too soon to banish him out of Montreal.

Now Ryder, I completely agree.



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Same here. Too bad we couldn't get anything for Grabo at the deadline. Maybe Timmins can work on his strength training this Summer.

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Ryder. 'Cause Lupul was invisible and not even playing until Knuble hurt himself and Lupul send Washington on vacation....

Why wouldn't Ryder be able to do that? Flyers have that advantage that every line can score. Do we have that advantage on the Lappy line?
If not mistaken, Montreal had the most goals in the regular season.
7 players with 40 pts or more. The only team in the NHL with that.
How does Philly have more scoring depth? :|

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Lats is a power forward. Power forwards don't peak until they around 27-28.
Lats is a future project, he was called up to Montreal way to early.
Dandy is the better choice unless Lats, in practice shows he's capable of making the smart pass.
Either way neither will hurt the team.

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I think the entire organization gave up on him.
Chipchura should and will be considered before Grabo to be a Hab.
You don't need 3 scoring lines to win the Stanley Cup. You need a mix of offensive and impeccable defense and Grabo doesn't fit into either one.

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04-24-2008, 01:22 PM
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Lats or Dandenault, who would you prefer for tonight? My answer is Lats because he completes the line better with Lapy and Streit and last game, Dandenault didn't look good and only played 6 minutes.

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Neither of them!! I would rather use Ryder.

Lats brings nothing to the table. He can't do anything with the puck and he won't play a hard hitting game anymore. Dandy just plain sucks and shouldn't play another game unless someone gets injured.

I would put Ryder in instead of Lats or Dandy....I would even rather try Stewart....just to see what he can do.

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Carbonneau should at least give a chance to Latendresse and bench Dandenault, I just can't figure out the reason why Carbonneau plays him that much...maybe because he was so scratched during the season and Carbonneau wants to make it up to him in some way?(would be pretty stupid)But who knows.

Brisebois' problem is that he plays too much.It wouldn't bother me if he plays around 14min. per game because Hamrlik always has to compensate for Brisebois' turn overs making him work way more than he should to get the puck out of the zone.

As you said, we should be able to get the 4 lines going ,because despite of the Flyer's mediocre defense, they can score with almost each line.

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Neither of them!! I would rather use Ryder.

Lats brings nothing to the table. He can't do anything with the puck and he won't play a hard hitting game anymore. Dandy just plain sucks and shouldn't play another game unless someone gets injured.

I would put Ryder in instead of Lats or Dandy....I would even rather try Stewart....just to see what he can do.
Hmm..
Stanley Cup experience vs AHL experience vs NHL sophomore.

Gee I wonder who Carbo will go with.

And Ryder brings more then nothing. He's just a pylon. Gainey should have NEVER re-signed him especially since 3 years in a row he takes them to arbitration.

God I hope there's a blockbuster move with tampa that includes Ryder and Grabo next year.

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Why all this love for Stewart ?
The kid has played one NHL game in his carreer and you want him to start a game in the playoff, that'S insane !

With a line-up full of young players, we need all the experience we can get and Dandenault is the guy we need. He has won cups in Detroit and knows what it takes to win this time of the year. He is certainly helping Lapierre on this side ! Too bad for Latendresse, but he will have to wait to get a chance to use his big body that he hasn't used properly for a while !

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