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04-27-2008, 03:01 PM
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Sounds to me like $, the usual answer. His agent's drumming up a market and teams have no choice but to play the game because they can't set the rules.
Isn't there a limit on entry level contracts?

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I'd rather replace Ryder with a Ryan Malone.
Ryan "I forget to play" Malone? seems like a fix..?

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Isn't there a limit on entry level contracts?
Hes UFA, not entry level since he wasnt drafted.

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He won't have the same life he has here; he won't be playing with his brother; and if he continues on his career path there is the opportunity to be a superstar and earn more money down the road in north America. Becoming a 100 point man is not out of the question which would lead to a near max contract and whatnought.

Andrei will not forget that this is the organization that took a chance on him... This is the organization that stuck with him; drafted his brother as well.... This is also the team that solved his health problems when the doctors in Russia didn't know what to do.

I think he cares about being in the best league in the world and competing for the cup; he seems like that kinda personality. He'll stay and Gainey will give him a fair deal to do so.
I would love for all of that to be true, but you're talking about a lot of money. If the Russian league is going to offer him say, $16 or $20 million tax free dollars to move back to his wife and child and play professional hockey, I would say he has a lot of thinking to do.

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Ryan "I forget to play" Malone? seems like a fix..?
I'd just rather the team, Used the NHL ready guy's that might be available, than take a gamble. We aren't Vancouver. Plus we have the Kostitsyn's, we need some grit to complement that.

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Hes UFA, not entry level since he wasnt drafted.
Actually according to RDS his maximum with bonuses is 2 million so he still has to go by the rules. His contract is still an entry level contract no matter his age from what I understand.

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Not too hyped about this kid.
but if timmins is... I'd want him on my team...


I don't know a lot about this player, but...

- big guy, skilled. who racked up points while playing 12 mins/a game.

- a phenomenal and gifted player according to most of the scouts

-if he's that good, we need to prevent him from signing with the leafs, bruins, or sens.

- 23 years old and will receive 850 000$ + bonuses ... for his first nhl contract , which means his cap hit shouldn't be very high.


anyways... time will tell, but the kid attracted a lot of attention... its better to make a mistake now and sign him for 850 000$ , just in case he becomes Alfredsson #2 .

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Actually according to RDS his maximum with bonuses is 2 million so he still has to go by the rules. His contract is still an entry level contract no matter his age from what I understand.
just like mark streit.

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I'd just rather the team, Used the NHL ready guy's that might be available, than take a gamble. We aren't Vancouver. Plus we have the Kostitsyn's, we need some grit to complement that.
Paccioretty, Conboy, Ryan White, we have plenty of grit coming at all positions.

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Actually according to RDS his maximum with bonuses is 2 million so he still has to go by the rules. His contract is still an entry level contract no matter his age from what I understand.
So its a 1 year entry level?

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So its a 1 year entry level?
I'm not sure. Entry level contracts are usually I think 3 years but i don't know if that is a requirement in the CBA or teams just happen to sign players to 3 year contracts because its the maximum number of years allowed for an entry level contract

Edit: I don't think it would be in his best interest to sign a one year contract. Having said that i don't know that teams would sign a 3 year contract unless there was a way out if need be. I guess you never know. Although he is sort of a UFA (with limitations) if he signed a one year contract he would probably be the property of the team now and wouldn't be able to go to another team the following season should things not work out (unless they decided not to retain their rights which would make him a UFA. I theory that would not be an entry level contract anymore so i would assume there would be no salary limitations...

Some speculation in here along with things I've heard mentioned before

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Montreal is a front runner?

Ok, well that means we dont get him.

Every single time we are the front runner we dont get whoever it may be so dont get your hopes up.
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I'd love to have him, he can only be an upgrade on Ryder.

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Wow..... talk about overhype...


I will laugh if he turns out like another Janne Lahti, but we never know...

Might worth the tryout.




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Brunnstrom will be limited to an entry-level contract. But it will be for 2 years instead of the 3 years for draft picks because of his age. Many suggest he is not as good as he is hyped. By the charade he's putting on over this signing...I would say we don't want his attitude on Montreal

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but if timmins is... I'd want him on my team...


I don't know a lot about this player, but...

- big guy, skilled. who racked up points while playing 12 mins/a game.

- a phenomenal and gifted player according to most of the scouts

-if he's that good, we need to prevent him from signing with the leafs, bruins, or sens.

- 23 years old and will receive 850 000$ + bonuses ... for his first nhl contract , which means his cap hit shouldn't be very high.


anyways... time will tell, but the kid attracted a lot of attention... its better to make a mistake now and sign him for 850 000$ , just in case he becomes Alfredsson #2 .


I can see a line-up like this with him:



Brunnstrom - Koivu - Kovalev
S.Kostitsyn - Plekanec - A.Kostitsyn
Higgins - UFA (an old Right handed center that Gainey always try to sign) - Kostopoulos
Latendresse - Chipchura - Lapierre



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Anyway we have nothing to loose if we sign him. We have things to loose if we dont, he might be good and help out another team, thus maybe contributing to a few of our loses. If we can sign him. It will be another asset and you cant have enough assets.

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Anyway we have nothing to loose if we sign him. We have things to loose if we dont, he might be good and help out another team, thus maybe contributing to a few of our loses. If we can sign him. It will be another asset and you cant have enough assets.
Cap space is an asset in itself nowadays.

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Anyway we have nothing to loose if we sign him. We have things to loose if we dont, he might be good and help out another team, thus maybe contributing to a few of our loses. If we can sign him. It will be another asset and you cant have enough assets.
Thats the same logic that got us Samsonov a couple of years back

whenever you give someone an NHL contract, there's always a risk involved, there's a cap, a signing limit (I think 50 players that can be signed including our own draft picks) Not to mention limited roster spaces and ice-time

If we do offer him a contract it must be because we think he's worth it, not because "more assets we can get, the better"

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It's funny he would consider Montreal...there's no Swedes on the roster is there?

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It's funny he would consider Montreal...there's no Swedes on the roster is there?
The only swedish we have in our organization is like Torp no?

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It's funny he would consider Montreal...there's no Swedes on the roster is there?
Sundin told him he's coming to montreal on july 1st

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Wow..... talk about overhype...


I will laugh if he turns out like another Janne Lahti, but we never know...

Might worth the tryout.



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Sundin told him he's coming to montreal on july 1st
Or we have a deal in place for Tedenby, or we are tanking next season for Paarjaavi/Hedman.


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I'm not sure. Entry level contracts are usually I think 3 years but i don't know if that is a requirement in the CBA or teams just happen to sign players to 3 year contracts because its the maximum number of years allowed for an entry level contract

Edit: I don't think it would be in his best interest to sign a one year contract. Having said that i don't know that teams would sign a 3 year contract unless there was a way out if need be. I guess you never know. Although he is sort of a UFA (with limitations) if he signed a one year contract he would probably be the property of the team now and wouldn't be able to go to another team the following season should things not work out (unless they decided not to retain their rights which would make him a UFA. I theory that would not be an entry level contract anymore so i would assume there would be no salary limitations...

Some speculation in here along with things I've heard mentioned before
Well from what I know, 3 years is for drafted prospect of X age, it is then reduced to 2 years (Korneev-Emelin) as they age up. But I didnt think it applied to undrafted players. They will need to change that asap, it's a serious competition disadvantage against the new RSL. UFA status should be "international" and undrafted after the age limit should mean automatic UFA status.

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