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05-03-2008, 11:55 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing that entire third like Smoke, Kosto, Begin all go.

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05-03-2008, 11:57 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing that entire third like Smoke, Kosto, Begin all go.
TK is awesome!!

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05-03-2008, 11:58 PM
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I feel like 62 points is a terrible indicator of his playing ability, as a defenceman (which is what looks like to me is what he wants). I have no doubt in my mind these stats will fool some GM into offering him 3-4 million + guarantee him a top 4 spot when in reality he spent a good chunk of this year as a forward.
Kovalev had 47 points last year and was -19 as a forward. I'd say Streit is a pretty damn good player and judging him solely on these playoffs is foolish.

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05-04-2008, 12:06 AM
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Kovalev had 47 points last year and was -19 as a forward. I'd say Streit is a pretty damn good player and judging him solely on these playoffs is foolish.
Streit showed this year he could not be a reliable d-man. He was useful as a forward during the season and was very good on the PP. In the playoffs, I thought he was our worst player. He was the biggest reason our PP sucked like that. He turned the puck over way more than the Breezer, the specialist in that category. I would keep Streit only on a cheap contract, but I'm sure somebody will come with a big offer and will regret it big time next year.

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05-04-2008, 12:08 AM
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Ryder, Streit, Smolinksi and Brisebois are done in Montreal. My guess.

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05-04-2008, 12:09 AM
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing that entire third like Smoke, Kosto, Begin all go.


What exactly do you expect from an energy line, if that wasn't enough?

Incroyable.

And Kosto is signed cheaper than the others for one more season. To trade him for nothing would be absolute folly. Smolinski, whatever, but an effective player under team control for under a million is not a common thing.

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05-04-2008, 12:12 AM
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Streit showed this year he could not be a reliable d-man. He was useful as a forward during the season and was very good on the PP. In the playoffs, I thought he was our worst player. He was the biggest reason our PP sucked like that. He turned the puck over way more than the Breezer, the specialist in that category. I would keep Streit only on a cheap contract, but I'm sure somebody will come with a big offer and will regret it big time next year.
Thats funny Brisbois is a -3 and Streit is -1. I guess when Brisbois turns over the puck it ends up in our net and when streit does it not so much.

Give Brisbois a raise and dump Streit!

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05-04-2008, 12:18 AM
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05-04-2008, 12:19 AM
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Thats funny Brisbois is a -3 and Streit is -1. I guess when Brisbois turns over the puck it ends up in our net and when streit does it not so much.

Give Brisbois a raise and dump Streit!
I hope I won't see Brisebois back with the team next year. He produced offensively but I thought he was way too soft and caused many turnovers.

You may like Streit, you can't deny his horrible play in the playoffs. Really turnover prone, like on our first PP or on the second Flyers goal. Streit is lucky Price saved his ass on many occasions during the playoffs, his + - would have been much worse. How many breakaways did our PP give during these 2 rounds? Streit was at fault almost every time.

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I hope I won't see Brisebois back with the team next year. He produced offensively but I thought he was way too soft and caused many turnovers.

You may like Streit, you can't deny his horrible play in the playoffs. Really turnover prone, like on our first PP or on the second Flyers goal. Streit is lucky Price saved his ass on many occasions during the playoffs, his + - would have been much worse. How many breakaways did our PP give during these 2 rounds? Streit was at fault almost every time.
The guy got 3rd highest amount of points on the team in the regular season. You don't just let him walk for nothing.

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05-04-2008, 12:29 AM
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The guy got 3rd highest amount of points on the team in the regular season. You don't just let him walk for nothing.
He leeched off the best PP in the league. Sure he was part of its success, but it was #1 without him the year before too. Another player could get 40+ points in his spot easily while not being a detriment to the team.

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He leeched off the best PP in the league. Sure he was part of its success, but it was #1 without him the year before too. Another player could get 40+ points in his spot easily while not being a detriment to the team.
If he leaves we need someone with a big slapper to replace him.... Souray was in that spot last year and we know all about his slapshot.... Streit worked cause his slapshot is still great..... We need another heavy shot in that spot, or teams won't respect it.

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05-04-2008, 12:36 AM
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I hope I won't see Brisebois back with the team next year. He produced offensively but I thought he was way too soft and caused many turnovers.
That is what is most frustrating about Brisebois. He is horrid defensively, but you look at how he can work a power-play--he makes the right plays in those situations.

We still can't keep him.

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We should trade Price

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The guy got 3rd highest amount of points on the team in the regular season. You don't just let him walk for nothing.
He is UFA. We will have the choice between signing him or letting him walk for nothing. I agree that you got to take account for his points totals in the regular season. He was great on our PP. You also got to look at his performance in playoffs where he was horrible.

If a team offers him over 3 millions a year for 3 or 4 years, would you sign him? I would certainly not. Will Bob do it? I don't know. I expect Streit to be back next year, but if we have to overpay, I really hope he goes to another team. He is not a top 4 d-man, he is not a top 6 player. He is mostly a PP specialist. I would give him 2.5 a year max, but I'm sure he'll get more somewhere.

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We should trade Price
Before or after we sign Aebischer?

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That is what is most frustrating about Brisebois. He is horrid defensively, but you look at how he can work a power-play--he makes the right plays in those situations.

We still can't keep him.
He was like that for most of his career. He was faster ten years ago, it helped him to get out of trouble often. Now, he is slow, weak and turnover prone. But I agree, he has a great vision on the PP. Not a great shot, but accurate. I also think that his weaknesses are too major to ignore. I think he is gone.

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Before or after we sign Aebischer?
Arturs Irbe ftw.

Dan Cloutier if we can't coaxe him out of retirement.

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He is UFA. We will have the choice between signing him or letting him walk for nothing. I agree that you got to take account for his points totals in the regular season. He was great on our PP. You also got to look at his performance in playoffs where he was horrible.

If a team offers him over 3 millions a year for 3 or 4 years, would you sign him? I would certainly not. Will Bob do it? I don't know. I expect Streit to be back next year, but if we have to overpay, I really hope he goes to another team. He is not a top 4 d-man, he is not a top 6 player. He is mostly a PP specialist. I would give him 2.5 a year max, but I'm sure he'll get more somewhere.
Losing players for nothing seems to be the new trend for the habs. How long can we just let our better players walk for nothing while resigning has beens like Brisbois?

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I hate thinking about this...even though there are a few guys I won't be sorry to see go it's still hard to realize that we have seen the 2007-2009 Montreal Canadiens for the last time.

With that said...

1) Mathieu Dandenault - I don't hate him, but he simply does not fit on our roster. I hope we can trade him, but I have a feeling he'll be bought out. Carbo uses his fourth line too much which means we can't have Dandenault on it. A return to defense is out of the question.

2) Brian Smolinski - I wouldn't object to seeing him return to center the fourth line and sit in the press box once in awhile, but I'm not sure he'd be happy in that role and I'm also not sure there aren't better options out there. Chipchura is going to be on one of the bottom lines and I'd really like to see Grabovski get a chance. However...

3) Mikhail Grabovski - I don't think he's happy with his role on the team and will likely return to Europe. I like him a lot more than most of you guys do; it's tragic to lose an exciting, promising young player without ever giving him a real opportunity to show what he can do. He played very well after being recalled, had one off night in a game where the entire team sucked, was [foolishly] scratched, got sick, and never saw action afterwards.

4) Mark Streit - I think his abysmal performance during the playoffs bought him a one-way ticket out of town, if he was even considering staying. I would like to keep him around on something like a two-year, $4.75 million contract, but I think he'll get a lot more from another team or, failing that, a promise to let him play as a defenseman every night. He's replaceable though, despite his points on the power play. Much like Souray.

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05-04-2008, 01:04 AM
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Losing players for nothing seems to be the new trend for the habs. How long can we just let our better players walk for nothing while resigning has beens like Brisbois?
New trend? What are you talking about? You don't seem to understand that the big issue with Streit is his play vs his pay. Listening to you, we should sign him to any contract for any number of years just to not risk losing him for nothing. This makes no sense. There is something called a salary cap you know. It makes even less sense when you look at his performances lately, when it matters the most in the playoffs, where he was the worst player on the team. We should break the bank for him after his failure to produce in the most important part of the season? Glad you're not running this team. And again, it has nothing to do with Brisebois.

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05-04-2008, 01:08 AM
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Losing players for nothing seems to be the new trend for the habs. How long can we just let our better players walk for nothing while resigning has beens like Brisbois?
A new trend? They've been doing it for 15 years

- Damphousse
- Recchi
- Dejardins
- Schneider
- Ribiero
- Perrault
- Roy
- Souray

to name a few...

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05-04-2008, 01:30 AM
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Kovalev had 47 points last year and was -19 as a forward. I'd say Streit is a pretty damn good player and judging him solely on these playoffs is foolish.
I did not base my statement on these playoffs (even if I did expect more, especially defensively, from him).

The guy wants to play D. If some team guarantees him a top 4 spot, I would not be surprised that being more appealing than a bigger contract from Montreal for him to play as a forward. If a GM sweetens the deal with more money AND a guaranteed D spot he's as good as gone, no matter how good he was this season.

Also I really don't get your comparison to 06-07 Kovy, don't get me wrong, I really like Streit. He seems like a really cool guy and is one of those feel good stories. But I still can't see where Kovy comes into your argument.

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We've all mentioned the obvious ones but I have a feeling that with the right deal Gainey will trade Higgins this summer. Personaly I think he can rebound next year but if management ever need to pull the trigger on a big deal he will be the first name put on the table.

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I'm not sure where I stand as far as defense goes. I want to see Brisebois retire (On a good note with such a solid 10 games.. and so I can get some respect as a poster back lol).. but I see him staying.

Maybe moving Bouillon (after such a good year and good playoffs) would be smart. He's on the final year of his contract.. and could probably fetch us something of use if we combined him with some talent. Maybe Bouillon + Prospect for a very good third line centre.

Brisebois as the #7 is fine.. for 700 K.. he doesn't hurt things.. and we know he's a class act professional that's a good leader for the kids.

Next year, I want to see;

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - O'Byrne
Gorges - Valentenko

I just think that Bouillon needs to be moved because he's the most expendable. Gorges has quickly become one of our defenseman for the future and Valentenko & O'Byrne need to play.

If Bouillon is fine with being the #7 (which I doubt he would be), then keep him.

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